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Topic: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread

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Mdot21

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #350 on: December 15, 2021, 06:24:23 PM »
Wow, that was fast!
Florida State lost the #1 recruit in the nation to a D3 historically black college. they can change all the rules they want- they'll never be able to live that down. that program is on the brink of death. it was a sinking ship and has been since the day Jimbo said F this I'm out. 

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #351 on: December 15, 2021, 06:29:37 PM »
So....sounds like 3* LB Aaron Alexander of Belleville HS in Michigan did not sign with Michigan, and will not be in Michigan's class.


Apparently Belleville head coach Jermaine Crowell went on a huge rant the other day on twitter trashing schools who don't make real offers and how that school is dead and none of his players will ever go there. He didn't mention any schools or coaches by name- but looks like we have our answer now....

Jim Harbaugh must really hate Jermaine Crowell and must never want to land a Belleville kid ever again. JFC. This is a big deal because Belleville has highly ranked kids almost every single year. Lost a 5* DT from there to Bama because of major beef between Harbaugh and Crowell. They have a freshman QB that will be a 5* in 2025.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #352 on: December 15, 2021, 07:00:51 PM »
welp. Michigan's 2022 class is a close except for a couple guys. they are waiting on 4* commit Edge Kevonte Henry of California to sign or not sign in Feb and on 5* OT Josh Conerly Jr. of Washington who is a heavy Michigan lean at the moment. That's about it. There might be a surprise down the line- but doubtful. Basically down to two guys on their board right now. 

Onto 2023.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #353 on: December 15, 2021, 07:09:39 PM »
What I find interesting is the scuttlebutt that there may be a conflict of interest or ethics issue with the Barstool NIL deal with that kid considering that Deion is apparently still financially intertwined somehow with Barstool, actually still operating a show for them.

Also that apparently the NIL rules in MS bar any affiliation with gambling or other interests, and Barstool may be related enough to those areas to cause an issue.

This may be a test case for more than a few issues related to NIL.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #354 on: December 15, 2021, 07:31:58 PM »
What I find interesting is the scuttlebutt that there may be a conflict of interest or ethics issue with the Barstool NIL deal with that kid considering that Deion is apparently still financially intertwined somehow with Barstool, actually still operating a show for them.

Also that apparently the NIL rules in MS bar any affiliation with gambling or other interests, and Barstool may be related enough to those areas to cause an issue.

This may be a test case for more than a few issues related to NIL.
is the Barstool NIL thing even real? I haven't seen anything official about it at all. One mention from a random twitter account called bean_invest that has a thousand followers is the one who was claiming this- and it took off. That twitter account has nothing to do with sports- apparently it is some "tech investor". If you look at their twitter page looks like a bullshit account. 

Reporter over at front office sports is saying it's not true. Another reporter who is a beat writer for the Clarion Ledger and covers Jackson State also saying it's not true.


https://twitter.com/achristovichh/status/1471226387226927105?s=20


https://twitter.com/_KhariThompson/status/1471230176004558858?s=20

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #355 on: December 15, 2021, 07:36:06 PM »
TBH, I only heard about the Barstool thing when @iahawk15 mentioned it. I did some googling and it looked like everyone was picking it up, so I assumed it was legit.

If that's not the case, mea culpa.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #356 on: December 15, 2021, 07:37:00 PM »
honestly...that rumor makes zero sense. wtf would Barstool pay this kid $1.5 million for? Jackson State has no fans for this kid to pitch whatever Barstool is trying to hawk. They'd just be wasting their money. 

Portnoy doesn't give a crap about Jackson State football. He's not going to waste his money to try and get players to his favorite team. He's a diehard Michigan fan and alum. If he was going to try and "buy" this kid- he'd buy him to go to Michigan. 

Might just be a ton of bullshit and much ado about nothing.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #357 on: December 15, 2021, 07:51:02 PM »
honestly...that rumor makes zero sense. wtf would Barstool pay this kid $1.5 million for? Jackson State has no fans for this kid to pitch whatever Barstool is trying to hawk. They'd just be wasting their money.

Portnoy doesn't give a crap about Jackson State football. He's not going to waste his money to try and get players to his favorite team. He's a diehard Michigan fan and alum. If he was going to try and "buy" this kid- he'd buy him to go to Michigan.

Might just be a ton of bullshit and much ado about nothing.
True, but if Barstool was invested in Deion, there may be advantage to leveraging the Deion brand from the publicity of this flip. 

Still a reach for a >$1M investment, but you never know. Barstool might have thought they could get something out of it...

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #358 on: December 15, 2021, 08:07:24 PM »
True, but if Barstool was invested in Deion, there may be advantage to leveraging the Deion brand from the publicity of this flip.

Still a reach for a >$1M investment, but you never know. Barstool might have thought they could get something out of it...
maybe....man but I just don't see it. No one gives a crap about college football recruiting. Not even most sports fans. Just us college football nutjobs. Not sure there is much to gain there. NIL deals are most effective with best ROI's for brands/companies when said brand/companies use popular college athletes to pitch product to said college athletes teams large fan bases. Or for boosters who have more money than brains that want to entice players to come to their school. Neither case seems to apply here.

Deion Sanders is the NFL GOAT CB. AND he played MLB baseball. He is easily one of the most iconic athletes ever in US history. He's a pretty well known public figure. I think. FOR sure in the sports world, and maybe even a little bit outside of the sports world. Not sure there's much publicity to gain. Probably a one day OMG that really happened type shocking thing- to college football nutjobs and maybe some casual sports fans- then that's it. Bye bye...no one give a flying F##k the day after.

I just don't see it. This kid has been talking about Deion Sanders for years and is so obsessed with Deion Sanders and idolized Deion Sanders so much he committed to FSU when they were a dumpster fire and stayed committed and tried to get other top kids to come with him.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #359 on: December 15, 2021, 08:15:11 PM »
3* RB commit CJ Stokes from South Carolina. This the type of kid that helps build a lasting culture. Give me this type of attitude over entitled drama queen attention seekers every single f'ing day of the week. 


https://twitter.com/joegorchowWIS/status/1471201953149562884?s=20

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #360 on: December 15, 2021, 08:25:17 PM »
I'm sure the kid likes Deion Sanders, but he was like 2 when Deion retired. And I don't give much to this Barstool thing - seems made up. BUT, my main takeaway is that a kid can follow his dream and play for Deion Sanders or Mr. Magoo or whomever and still make a tidy profit instead of focusing solely on NFL feeder schools. 

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. My biggest concern/complaint continues to be this transfer rule. It almost makes no sense for a kid to not enter the transfer portal at some point, simply to be recruited again and get perhaps another signing bonus of some sort. Can't say I love that.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #361 on: December 15, 2021, 08:57:33 PM »
Yeah I'm always pro players rights, but at some point you also have to address the business model to ensure you are retaining fans.  Maybe in Alabama or Nebraska or Iowa, people will always turn out, but I think in others, people have no interest in NFL-lite.

I think you keep the portal and the NIL stuff, but bring back the one year sit out rule with zero waivers.  Make your money, go where you want, but you won't be playing immediately

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #362 on: December 15, 2021, 09:23:30 PM »
maybe....man but I just don't see it. No one gives a crap about college football recruiting. Not even most sports fans. Just us college football nutjobs. Not sure there is much to gain there. NIL deals are most effective with best ROI's for brands/companies when said brand/companies use popular college athletes to pitch product to said college athletes teams large fan bases. Or for boosters who have more money than brains that want to entice players to come to their school. Neither case seems to apply here.

Deion Sanders is the NFL GOAT CB. AND he played MLB baseball. He is easily one of the most iconic athletes ever in US history. He's a pretty well known public figure. I think. FOR sure in the sports world, and maybe even a little bit outside of the sports world. Not sure there's much publicity to gain. Probably a one day OMG that really happened type shocking thing- to college football nutjobs and maybe some casual sports fans- then that's it. Bye bye...no one give a flying F##k the day after.

I just don't see it. This kid has been talking about Deion Sanders for years and is so obsessed with Deion Sanders and idolized Deion Sanders so much he committed to FSU when they were a dumpster fire and stayed committed and tried to get other top kids to come with him.
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that it seemed plausible enough in this crazy new environment. People are paying $200K for NFTs of bored cartoon apes. I can't predict who is going to throw $1.5M at who these days.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #363 on: December 15, 2021, 10:27:41 PM »
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that it seemed plausible enough in this crazy new environment. People are paying $200K for NFTs of bored cartoon apes. I can't predict who is going to throw $1.5M at who these days.
don't even get me started on that. makes no sense. saw some artist on Rogan podcast from Wisconsin who goes by the name Beeple who sold one of his NFTs for $69 million. can't even wrap my brain around that crap.

 

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