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Topic: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread

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Mdot21

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #336 on: December 15, 2021, 04:08:34 PM »
Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.

That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.

This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.

If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #337 on: December 15, 2021, 04:11:24 PM »
Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.

That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.

This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.

If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.

And they do not have a strong NIL program for funneling money to players legally, but they are in the SEC West and have learned from the best, which all adds up to...


(I'll put it this way, Ole Miss was having similar recruiting success for "no reason" a few years back)


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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #338 on: December 15, 2021, 04:18:56 PM »
And they do not have a strong NIL program for funneling money to players legally, but they are in the SEC West and have learned from the best, which all adds up to...


(I'll put it this way, Ole Miss was having similar recruiting success for "no reason" a few years back)
They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second. 

Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #339 on: December 15, 2021, 04:24:33 PM »
They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second.

Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.

It's even worse for them, this is their last gasp at squeaking out good seasons before Texas and OU join the SEC and make life far more difficult for them.  Both schools absolutely own the ags, and once all of the recruiting imbalances are evened out, the ags will be in a world of hurt.  Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. :)

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #340 on: December 15, 2021, 04:26:27 PM »
It's even worse for them, this is their last gasp at squeaking out good seasons before Texas and OU join the SEC and make life far more difficult for them.  Both schools absolutely own the ags, and once all of the recruiting imbalances are evened out, the ags will be in a world of hurt.  Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. :)
Texas still needs to find a coach. I'm not sold on Sark. There's a certain guy in the NFL who might get fired by the Jags. If he does...Texas should say sayonara to Sark and go all in on him. Urban winning at least 1 title at a place like Texas.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #341 on: December 15, 2021, 04:33:32 PM »
Urban might be a little toxic right now.

Texas should go all-in on Ryan Day.
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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #342 on: December 15, 2021, 05:03:21 PM »
Sark was a terrible hire.  But even Tom Herman was able to win 10 games at Texas.

As college football national championship winning and NFL superbowl winning and hall of fame coach Barry $witzer famously said-- it's the Jimmys and the Joes, not the Xs and the Os.


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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #343 on: December 15, 2021, 05:11:08 PM »
They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second.

Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.
I remember that WR I think was headed M's way and like 2 other guys they had like 3 of the top 10-15 in the all of CFB.And you were all :character0029: "those cheating F****" well you weren't wrong
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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #344 on: December 15, 2021, 05:27:16 PM »
Urban might be a little toxic right now.

Texas should go all-in on Ryan Day.
Nope Leonard,Rudolph or PC are a much more stable and a natural fit .The Urban stench still wafts around RD,horrible pick Chicago bound anyway
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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #345 on: December 15, 2021, 06:04:21 PM »
Sark was a terrible hire.  But even Tom Herman was able to win 10 games at Texas.

As college football national championship winning and NFL superbowl winning and hall of fame coach Barry $witzer famously said-- it's the Jimmys and the Joes, not the Xs and the Os.
Jimmy Johnson was talking about how it's more about motivating all the players and coaches and getting the best out of every single one of them than it is X's and O's. It was a fascinating look inside the mind of a pair of HOF coaches when Jimmy and Bill Belichik started talking on Jimmy's boat during a segment on the show A Football Life. X's and O's are still crazy important, however lol. 

I think where the Jimmy's and Joe's really matter are the trench ponies. You just can't win without them. I go back to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Probably the best skill collection of talent in the NFL with Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce, and it didn't matter. Their OL literally could not block the Tampa front 7. We love the QB's and WR's and the big plays, but at the end of the day- it's still a blocking and tackling game. 

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #346 on: December 15, 2021, 06:09:09 PM »
5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin sticks with his pledge and signs with Kentucky. MSU finishes runner-up. Was not looking forward to having to play him every year, dude is a grown ass man and literal giant- but hate that he went to Kentucky. Still got beef with them for snatching Deone Walker from Michigan. I'd really like to see Kentucky go back to being well, Kentucky.

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #347 on: December 15, 2021, 06:14:44 PM »
Jimmy Johnson was talking about how it's more about motivating all the players and coaches and getting the best out of every single one of them than it is X's and O's. It was a fascinating look inside the mind of a pair of HOF coaches when Jimmy and Bill Belichik started talking on Jimmy's boat during a segment on the show A Football Life. X's and O's are still crazy important, however lol.

I think where the Jimmy's and Joe's really matter are the trench ponies. You just can't win without them. I go back to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Probably the best skill collection of talent in the NFL with Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce, and it didn't matter. Their OL literally could not block the Tampa front 7. We love the QB's and WR's and the big plays, but at the end of the day- it's still a blocking and tackling game.
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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #348 on: December 15, 2021, 06:16:07 PM »
so apparently someone in the state legislature in Tallahassee is pissed off Florida State lost the #1 recruit in the nation to Jackson State. 


https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1471236697379721219?s=20

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Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #349 on: December 15, 2021, 06:18:19 PM »
Wow, that was fast!

 

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