2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread

[ELA]

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Nothing showing up for me, but Beard goes to Texas

[MaximumSam]

Nothing showing up for me, but Beard goes to Texas

That's my "I bet Chris Holtmann is on a list in Chapel Hill somewhere" emoji

[ELA]

That's my "I bet Chris Holtmann is on a list in Chapel Hill somewhere" emoji

If he's not, he should be

[ELA]

Adam Miller in the portal, even though he is Illinois second best returning player.  Power 5 schools can now absolutely not afford to recruit guys who cannot contribute as major players as freshmen. The plan now kind of has to be recruit four and five-star kids, and fill out 80% of your roster with transfers.  Because any kid who comes in, and isn't an immediate star, is gone.

I'm not being overly dramatic when I say college sports are dying to me. They are giving away so many concessions that are killing it, to avoid letting the players get paid.  I would rather let the players get every dime they can get, to maintain the one year redshirt policy for transfers.  They assume the fans are on board no matter what, I guess

[grillrat]

While the transfer phenomena has certainly been getting worse, this year is ....hopefully.... an outlier due to the temporary elimination of the one-year-sit-out as a result of Covid2020.
I expected this year to be a bad year, but I don't think it will be nearly as bad next year.

[NickSmith4Three]

Adam Miller in the portal, even though he is Illinois second best returning player.  Power 5 schools can now absolutely not afford to recruit guys who cannot contribute as major players as freshmen. The plan now kind of has to be recruit four and five-star kids, and fill out 80% of your roster with transfers.  Because any kid who comes in, and isn't an immediate star, is gone.

I'm not being overly dramatic when I say college sports are dying to me. They are giving away so many concessions that are killing it, to avoid letting the players get paid.  I would rather let the players get every dime they can get, to maintain the one year redshirt policy for transfers.  They assume the fans are on board no matter what, I guess

I have read speculation that his family wasn't a fan of how much attention Ayo's family got.  That they got more tickets.  That Underwood is too tough on his players.  That he wants to be a primary ball handler.  Who knows?  This one was a real shocker though to me.  

I agree with you though.  I am just caring less and less about college sports.  Part of that is my teams are usually terrible to average.  The other part is what you have highlighted.  And another part is I am much older now.  My kids are playing sports and doing their activities and those are by far more enjoyable watch.

[ELA]

TJD announces he's returning to Indiana for his junior year

[MaximumSam]

TJD announces he's returning to Indiana for his junior year

Big win for Woodson

[MaximumSam]

Porter Moser headed to Oklahoma

[bayareabadger]

Porter Moser headed to Oklahoma

His resume is so, so weird. 

[MaximumSam]

His resume is so, so weird.

Is it though? It took some time for him to develop the program, but he's on a pretty decent streak over the past four years. 1st three times in their conference and second once, with a final four appearance and thus year's team is tenth on KenPom.

[bayareabadger]

Is it though? It took some time for him to develop the program, but he's on a pretty decent streak over the past four years. 1st three times in their conference and second once, with a final four appearance and thus year's team is tenth on KenPom.

I mean, yeah?

He jumpstarted a Arkansas Little Rock program to being OK (following one ill-fated year from Sidney Moncrief and a run with Bama legend Wimp Sanderson), then flamed out at Illinois State. He had one winning season in his first five years at Loyola, and that was an 8-10 sixth-place team. He never finished better than fifth in his first 13 years.

Then he has two great teams and a couple pretty solid ones the past four years. But it's a weird resume. Seventeen years a coach, fifth-best season is ... 18-11 fifth in the sun belt, now maybe turning down IU. That's not to say he won't be good, but it's certianly unusual. 

[MaximumSam]

I mean, yeah?

He jumpstarted a Arkansas Little Rock program to being OK (following one ill-fated year from Sidney Moncrief and a run with Bama legend Wimp Sanderson), then flamed out at Illinois State. He had one winning season in his first five years at Loyola, and that was an 8-10 sixth-place team. He never finished better than fifth in his first 13 years.

Then he has two great teams and a couple pretty solid ones the past four years. But it's a weird resume. Seventeen years a coach, fifth-best season is ... 18-11 fifth in the sun belt, now maybe turning down IU. That's not to say he won't be good, but it's certianly unusual.

I looked at his time at Illinois State. He got fired, but I wouldn't describe him as flaming out. His last team finished a touch less than .500, but finished 86th on KenPom, which is pretty decent. The next year they finished 25-10 and 56th on KenPom under Tim Jancovich, which would at least suggest the program was left in a decent shape.

[ELA]

Drew Valentine, Denzel's older brother, who was a GA at MSU, expected to be promoted to head coach.

Will be interesting to see what kind of success he does or does not have there, to see if he winds up as a potential next MSU coach down the road