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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10500 on: October 22, 2020, 11:53:00 AM »
that's a better plan

I'm in
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10501 on: October 22, 2020, 11:54:47 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2020, 11:43:25 AM
I was trying to dance around it. I was under the impression there were a not insignificant number of black pit masters. But I might be wrong there.
Ah, I see where you're going there.

It's probably much more common in the Deep South, than it is over here in Texico.

There are a few black pitmasters in Central Texas, but the origins of Central Texas BBQ are really more in the German and Czech meat markets, and the communities that surrounded them.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10502 on: October 22, 2020, 12:00:30 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2020, 11:45:12 AM
Time for a career change. Now is the perfect time to open a restaurant.


In googling it there are five BBQ joints, which is more than I expected. 

Take a look at these and tell me which one you would take a flier on. 

DUBs: https://www.dubsbarbq.com/
Dickey's: https://www.dickeys.com/
BBQ Pitstop: https://www.bbqpitstop.com/
Rib and Chop house: https://www.ribandchop.com/
BBQ Hut: http://www.bbqhututah.com/

Now I know enough to rule out Dickey's right from the get go. It doesn't appear to have an outdoor pit, and it looks like a fast food chain. At best it might be City BBQ quality, but I doubt it. 

Rib and Chop probably looks the best, but it also looks like it is the kind of joint that would charge over $22 a plate. 

Which one would you guys be brave enough to try? 

As far as opening a BBQ joint, there is indeed a lot of potential here. The region is known as "Utah's Dixie" and they take a lot of pride in that. As such a southern themed eatery with over the top Dixie references would be a killer. There are a lot of unique regional sides as well (google "funeral potatoes") that would give it the Dixie flavor with a Utah twist. 

But as discussed upthread, the food industry kind of blows, and most restaurants fail quickly, especially with Covid restrictions. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10503 on: October 22, 2020, 12:01:12 PM »
not Dickey's

it's a chain

the Hut and the pitstop don't cook anything

so you're down to DUBS and the chop house

neither look promising

I'd try DUBS, heck Dickey's might be your best option

and that would be bad
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10504 on: October 22, 2020, 12:25:10 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2020, 11:43:25 AM
I was trying to dance around it. I was under the impression there were a not insignificant number of black pit masters. But I might be wrong there.

In Columbus I must have tried at least five black run BBQ joints, including one that was owned and operated by a bunch of former Buckeyes, and they were all horrid. The sauce was like syrup; all sweet and no spice. You got a sugar rush after the first few bites. They all just gave you a slice of Wonder Bread on the side. Literally Wonder Bread. The guys that I went with to the one that was run by Buckeyes tried to order the sauce on the side. They took their money and waited for us to sit down, then they sent out some clueless girl to tell us that they can't make it without sauce because they toss all of their smoked meats into a bucket of sauce as soon as they are done cooking it. So it came out, and it was just swimming with sauce. Now I don't know what the bruthas in the South are cooking up, but midwestern "hood BBQ" sucks ass. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10505 on: October 22, 2020, 12:37:26 PM »
Definitely DUBs. It looks like the only actual BBQ joint of the group (with the exception of Dickey's, which you can rule out immediately).

I would give DUBs a shot. It might not be great, but from looking at the menu and web site they're at least saying the right things. Pics on Yelp look good too.

As with any BBQ spot that doesn't do the Franklin style "sell until you run out" kind of place, I would only get something like brisket if you're there for the lunch or dinner rush. If you're off-hours, something might have been sitting in a warming oven for hours or has already been sliced, and that's how you get dry brisket. 

Rib & Chop house looks like a steakhouse. Yeah, they have ribs, but per their menu they are cooked in an oven and then finished on a grill, not smoked. That's not BBQ. To be fair, they're probably delicious. But it's a different thing. And there's no other actual "BBQ" meats.

The Hut and Pit Stop might actually be your best bet. True, they don't cook anything. But you can buy yourself a smoker and do it right yourself instead :72: 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10506 on: October 22, 2020, 12:43:09 PM »
There were some really good black-owned BBQ joints in Chicago, mostly on the South side, and mostly with pork being the star. Not a lot of brisket down there, but there were a few.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10507 on: October 22, 2020, 12:54:03 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on October 22, 2020, 11:32:47 AM
That said, I think part of it is that people here in CA don't even know what good BBQ is. People think if you slap BBQ sauce on something it's BBQ. The issue will be that outside of the aficionados who REALLY know BBQ, the good BBQ won't distinguish itself from the mediocre BBQ joints.
There are some parts of western Minnesota and the Dakotas that will swear up and down that a sloppy joe is a "barbecue".
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10508 on: October 22, 2020, 01:48:33 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 22, 2020, 12:25:10 PM
In Columbus I must have tried at least five black run BBQ joints, including one that was owned and operated by a bunch of former Buckeyes, and they were all horrid. The sauce was like syrup; all sweet and no spice. You got a sugar rush after the first few bites. They all just gave you a slice of Wonder Bread on the side. Literally Wonder Bread. The guys that I went with to the one that was run by Buckeyes tried to order the sauce on the side. They took their money and waited for us to sit down, then they sent out some clueless girl to tell us that they can't make it without sauce because they toss all of their smoked meats into a bucket of sauce as soon as they are done cooking it. So it came out, and it was just swimming with sauce. Now I don't know what the bruthas in the South are cooking up, but midwestern "hood BBQ" sucks ass.
I could see that. The middle middle west seems extremely not adept at BBQ for some reason. 

There's a pretty quality place I've tried in Lexington, so Ohio adjacent. I recall someone suggesting a place in Cincinnati, but I read the reviews and it sounded all wrong. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10509 on: October 22, 2020, 02:16:03 PM »
A top BBQ place here, long closed, was called Harold's, and he served a piece of white bread with it, and never beer, he said "Momma won't let me serve beer>"

It was down near the Federal pen.

We've tried 5 or 6 local places and only Fox Bros. is what I'd called good.  There aren't that many around really, in the 'burbs they have chains like Sonny's.

I got used to eastern Carolina BBQ and like that when I can get it.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10510 on: October 22, 2020, 02:24:20 PM »
Dickey's is a terribad chain, the kind you find in airports all around the country, if that tells you anything.

Still, given the options, it might actually be the best available...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10511 on: October 22, 2020, 02:33:39 PM »
Bbq might just be one of those things that I will have to get on a Vegas run.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10512 on: October 22, 2020, 02:36:28 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2020, 01:48:33 PM
I could see that. The middle middle west seems extremely not adept at BBQ for some reason.

There's a pretty quality place I've tried in Lexington, so Ohio adjacent. I recall someone suggesting a place in Cincinnati, but I read the reviews and it sounded all wrong.
Nevertheless, I would proceed with extreme caution. Get a pulled pork sandwich. If it is done up right, great. Go nuts. But it will probably suck, and you'll be glad that you didn't buy pounds of meat that tastes like cinnamon flavored sugar.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #10513 on: October 22, 2020, 02:40:41 PM »
The main chain here is Sonny's.  We stop there for lunch on occasion if we're driving.  It's in the "not bad" category.

City BBQ is another chain that is better than Sonny's, quite a bit better IMHO, but it's a small chain, and they do use wood offset smokers.

There was one near us in Cincy and I liked going there.

They have some here somewhere.  We had lunch today at Canoe, which is one of the prettiest restaurants around.  It's right on the Chattahoochee river (which is UP right now).

https://www.canoeatl.com/

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