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FearlessF · « **Reply #10318 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:07:07 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 20, 2020, 05:30:21 PM

I think I know where you sit. You're just like me. I can't stand Trump, but I like his policy decisions on trade, wars, economy.

I will hold my nose and vote with my wallet. The alternative is worse. Oh well. Shoot me.

Ed Zachery!
but, it's not our fault. It's the fault of the two parties in power.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #10319 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:14:32 PM »

During peak shelter in place times, we had unleaded at $1.22 in south central Indiana. I took this pic.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #10320 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:20:07 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 20, 2020, 05:30:21 PM

I think I know where you sit. You're just like me. I can't stand Trump, but I like his policy decisions on trade, wars, economy.

I will hold my nose and vote with my wallet. The alternative is worse. Oh well. Shoot me.

Well, I don't like is policy decisions on trade. I think we differ on that one. I'm not sure what he's done for the economy other than reduce taxes, but obviously I favor lower taxes. He hasn't really done anything about government spending, though, which basically just means he's kicking the can, and as I've got 20+ years of working left ahead of me, may result in me being the one paying the piper. I'll give him credit for not getting us into any wars, though. That's helpful.

My issues with Trump extend FAR beyond "can't stand him", although I certainly can't stand him. I think he's a threat to the country. He's spent the last 2-3 months casting doubt on electoral democracy to set himself up to challenge his eventual loss in court, and he's publicly, and repeatedly, suggested he deserves 3 or 4 terms. And honestly, I think a lot of people see him as just another politician, but I think the potential damage he can do frankly unmakes us.

So per HB's question about why I support "the other side", the answer is that I don't support the other side. My own interests are often better served by the R party than the D party. But in this case, it's not based on party at all, nor on policy, because I view Trump as in the running for the worst President in American history, if not taking it outright. So while I'm not excited about a Biden presidency, I would quite literally vote for nearly anyone in the nation over Donald Trump.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #10321 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:22:42 PM »

Well, your vote really doesn't matter based on where you are.

For the first time since I was in Madison, my vote matters. And I will use it early and often. Heh. Can't take Chicago out of the boy.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #10322 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:30:38 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 20, 2020, 06:22:42 PM

Well, your vote really doesn't matter based on where you are.

For the first time since I was in Madison, my vote matters. And I will use it early and often. Heh. Can't take Chicago out of the boy.

That's true, which is why I typically vote for the "L" party in Presidential elections. It becomes a vote of no confidence in the entire system.

This year, that's not the case. I want to add one more number to the tally that repudiates Donald Trump and everything he stands for, and the best way to do that is if Biden wins in a landslide, not a squeaker.

Plus, unless it's a landslide, Trump will assuredly battle it in court.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #10323 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:37:05 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 20, 2020, 05:30:21 PM

I think I know where you sit. You're just like me. I can't stand Trump, but I like his policy decisions on trade, wars, economy.

I will hold my nose and vote with my wallet. The alternative is worse. Oh well. Shoot me.

One thing I will say is that if nothing else, the man has certianly shifted both the outlook of each tribe and the the perception of certain out looks.

When I was younger, his was the hawkish party, the other one more dovish (or at least perceived that way). The guy before the current guy had certain hawkish acts/impulses, though he'd ended the one war and drawn down the other after ramping up.

And when I was young, the current trade policy was considered strongly at odds with the party that held aloft the economy as it's main thing. Free trade and robust business were considered in line with each other. If anything, one of the mis-steps of the other party was allowing itself to lean into free trade for the economic side, thereby starting the deterioration of its labor base. (And now we have a weird case of government intervening in supply chain and also maybe trying to cap big businesses)

The one policy I'd love to see would be one that came up at some points in one of the terms was the emphasis on community college. The issue is it would deal a blow to four-year institutions, but they might be in bubble mode. It always made more sense to me than the pushes to force four-year schools to shift, rather than just letting that change with demand.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #10324 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:48:46 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 20, 2020, 06:22:42 PM

Well, your vote really doesn't matter based on where you are.

For the first time since I was in Madison, my vote matters. And I will use it early and often. Heh. Can't take Chicago out of the boy.

Ooo, you gave me an in for something interesting I saw.

We've kind of chewed over the idea of this state or that state is bad. And how the electoral college is weird. And some people believe strongly in states as a concept, whereas I believe there's a certain arbitrariness to them.

Anyway, in that state when Bwar's vote doesn't matter. 4.484 million folks voted for the current guy, and those votes are considered not really mattering. There are only nine states that had more votes total. So if every 2016 voter in Georgia voted for one side, it wouldn't be as many as the votes that "don't matter."

What's more, that 4.484 million is more people than live in half of the states in the union. Every man, woman and child in Kentucky or Oklahoma could vote the same way and it wouldn't match that total from a state that's locked in with one party.

I just found that wild in a way.

FearlessF · « **Reply #10325 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:49:17 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on October 20, 2020, 06:20:07 PM

He's spent the last 2-3 months casting doubt on electoral democracy to set himself up to challenge his eventual loss in court, and he's publicly, and repeatedly, suggested he deserves 3 or 4 terms. And honestly, I think a lot of people see him as just another politician, but I think the potential damage he can do frankly unmakes us.

I certainly hope Trump would take a defeat at the polls like a man. It wouldn't surprise me if he challenged the defeat. I would then hope it would be thrown out of court quickly

FearlessF · « **Reply #10326 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:52:52 PM »

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #10327 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:54:59 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on October 20, 2020, 06:20:07 PM

Well, I don't like is policy decisions on trade. I think we differ on that one. I'm not sure what he's done for the economy other than reduce taxes, but obviously I favor lower taxes. He hasn't really done anything about government spending, though, which basically just means he's kicking the can, and as I've got 20+ years of working left ahead of me, may result in me being the one paying the piper. I'll give him credit for not getting us into any wars, though. That's helpful.

My issues with Trump extend FAR beyond "can't stand him", although I certainly can't stand him. I think he's a threat to the country. He's spent the last 2-3 months casting doubt on electoral democracy to set himself up to challenge his eventual loss in court, and he's publicly, and repeatedly, suggested he deserves 3 or 4 terms. And honestly, I think a lot of people see him as just another politician, but I think the potential damage he can do frankly unmakes us.

So per HB's question about why I support "the other side", the answer is that I don't support the other side. My own interests are often better served by the R party than the D party. But in this case, it's not based on party at all, nor on policy, because I view Trump as in the running for the worst President in American history, if not taking it outright. So while I'm not excited about a Biden presidency, I would quite literally vote for nearly anyone in the nation over Donald Trump.

Fair enough.

we can agree on one thing: your best interests are definitely served by the R.

I might even agree with you as far as communication skills. He is certainly not in my top 20 presidents LOL. But I wouldn’t call him the worst president even of the last decade or even close to that.

The Ds Represent Unabashed corruption, dishonesty,hypocrisy,violence lawlessness and being in cahoots with the media. And it is the whole damn party. They sicken me.

when I filled out my absentee ballot last week I left the presidential slot on marked but pretty much voted For Republicans down the line, With the exception of one judge.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #10328 on:** October 20, 2020, 06:58:48 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on October 20, 2020, 06:52:52 PM

Without context, that's certianly a funny chyron.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #10329 on:** October 20, 2020, 07:00:26 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 20, 2020, 06:54:59 PM

Fair enough.

we can agree on one thing: your best interests are definitely served by the R.

I might even agree with you as far as communication skills. He is certainly not in my top 20 presidents LOL. But I wouldn’t call him the worst president even of the last decade or even close to that.

The Ds Represent Unabashed corruption, dishonesty,hypocrisy,violence lawlessness and being in cahoots with the media. And it is the whole damn party. They sicken me.

when I filled out my absentee ballot last week I left the presidential slot on marked but pretty much voted For Republicans down the line, With the exception of one judge.

Sigh, I miss when most posts like this were stricken from the board. It would wipe out many of mine, and I'd be super OK with it.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #10330 on:** October 20, 2020, 07:05:39 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on October 20, 2020, 02:52:59 PM

I've seen those. I can't understand what the purpose is, though... I would expect that about the only advantage is that by technically being a "motorcycle", they can avoid most of the safety features that a car like the Ariel Atom needs to be street legal.

But I can't imagine that the acceleration is anywhere near as good as having two drive wheels, nor the handling.

If you want an open-air vehicle that doesn't accelerate or handle particularly well, and can be driven sans-doors, why not just get a Jeep?

In California you are allowed to drive a "motorcycle" down the dotted white line that divides the traffic lanes.

You cannot do that with a "jeep"

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #10331 on:** October 20, 2020, 07:11:54 PM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on October 20, 2020, 07:00:26 PM

Sigh, I miss when most posts like this were stricken from the board. It would wipe out many of mine, and I'd be super OK with it.

Yes- It would wipe out many of your posts and dozens of others as well. And it would make me happy. This place is ruined by politics. But if I continue seeing these kind of posts and we’re going to allow it in this thread you will get my two cents. Suck it up

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