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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8974 on: September 11, 2020, 01:52:06 PM »
and I'm very happy to not have been infected by the Sturgis motorcycle rally folks
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8975 on: September 11, 2020, 02:00:20 PM »
example 2


https://video.foxnews.com/v/6141024039001#sp=show-clips


again you wont see this on CNN cause it doesnt go with their agenda
Fair enough. 

Question: was their reporting all feel-good during 2009-2016? 

Or do they also have an agenda?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8976 on: September 11, 2020, 02:05:15 PM »
WGN is trying this model.

We'll see.

If this is what the market demanded, CNN and Fox would already do it.
Well yeah, for sure.  The Mainstream Media plus CNN/MSNBC/etc. pandering to the Left, and Fox pandering to the right, works for their business model, because those people that watch those channels prefer to remain in their own echo chambers.

I loathe both "sides" and hate the bias I see in all of them.  So for me, the local cable news channel is perfect.  It provides me the news most relevant to my daily life, but also covers the major national stories, and it does it with a minimum of editorializing and slant.  It works for me but I recognize that it would never satisfy the people who prefer to smell their own farts in their tightly sealed echo chambers.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8977 on: September 11, 2020, 02:06:21 PM »
SFIrish got a big win at her city council meeting on Monday. I won't bother with what it was about, but I will say this: she put a ton of effort into talking to people on both sides of the issue to get a sense for its importance and its impact, she reminded folks from both sides to come to the meeting and comment, despite knowing which side she agreed with, she put a lot of work into studying data on the issue, she put a lot of effort into crafting her comments, and she won--winning over the undecided swing vote in an acrimonious debate, despite him leaning pretty strongly the other way a few days before.

I say this not only because I'm proud of her, but also because that swing vote probably wasn't swayed as much by her as he was by the people who showed up to comment (via Zoom, as is the way right now--they didn't even need to leave their dwelling). Showing up to comment to the decision makers still matters in a democracy, probably more than anything else. Certainly a lot more than ranting on Facebook, Twitter, or even CFB51.com. So it probably wasn't her words at the meeting, but it was her huge effort to get people to show up that mattered.

And the denouement? Despite all the research, talking--and listening--to both sides, etc., people unhappy with the decision think it's mindless, national talking points that drove the vote, and are more than happy to say so. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8978 on: September 11, 2020, 02:53:13 PM »
2020, probably best in hindsight.
The Mayans were 8 years off.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8979 on: September 11, 2020, 02:58:55 PM »
you will never see that on CNN
Why even specify CNN, you won't see it on any major news channel?

Good news doesn't make the news because it's the default, thankfully.  A pandemic makes the news because there aren't pandemics continuously happening all over the world.  There aren't magnitude-8.5 earthquakes all the time, nor unarmed people being murdered by police all the time.  

It's a good thing.

Seriously, if we all lived in an apolcalyptic hellscape, the news WOULD be mostly feel-good stories, because they'd be the exception.


It doesn't make our news any easier to swallow, but it makes sense.  Personally, I think the 24/7 news channels' default should be to not exist, but only pop up for major, ongoing things.....kind of like those Halloween stores.

CNN has no reason to exist unless a major earthquake hits, or a novel covid virus happens, or there's a massive tsunami.  And even then, they should exist for no more than a week or so.  After a month, if it's still a thing, it can pop back up for another week.  


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8980 on: September 11, 2020, 03:01:30 PM »
And if you deem it a 'freedom of speech' issue, fine, but these channels are actively harming our society.  Regardless of which one you watch, you can admit that.


I find it akin to yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  Your free speech doesn't include a radically-slanted reporting (a little) and commentating (mostly) of the news 24 hours a day.  

Hell, it'd be fun to consolidate them onto one channel.......5:00-6:00 CNN, 6:00-7:00 FoxNews, etc.  That'd make for some interesting ratings graphs.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8981 on: September 11, 2020, 03:28:48 PM »
And if you deem it a 'freedom of speech' issue, fine, but these channels are actively harming our society.  Regardless of which one you watch, you can admit that.


I find it akin to yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  Your free speech doesn't include a radically-slanted reporting (a little) and commentating (mostly) of the news 24 hours a day. 

Hell, it'd be fun to consolidate them onto one channel.......5:00-6:00 CNN, 6:00-7:00 FoxNews, etc.  That'd make for some interesting ratings graphs.
I agree they're harming our society.

I disagree with everything that follows. You may not like how they use their speech, but once you put someone in charge of deciding who gets to speak or how, at that point you're subject to THEIR interpretation of what is or isn't good.

Would you want the current administration to have that power? I know I wouldn't.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8982 on: September 11, 2020, 03:33:25 PM »
we're doomed

the press sucks, the current administration sucks, and it seems as though the next administration will certainly suck
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8983 on: September 11, 2020, 03:36:22 PM »
we're doomed

the press sucks, the current administration sucks, and it seems as though the next administration will certainly suck
Yep. I'd say "burn it all down", but here in California we're already there.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8984 on: September 11, 2020, 03:45:26 PM »
Yep. I'd say "burn it all down", but here in California we're already there.
oh thats right its time for the annual California burn fest

There are several other states with extensive forests that dont have this annual burn problem

what make California unique is it high winds just wondering
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8985 on: September 11, 2020, 03:46:38 PM »
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8986 on: September 11, 2020, 03:58:45 PM »
oh thats right its time for the annual California burn fest

There are several other states with extensive forests that dont have this annual burn problem

what make California unique is it high winds just wondering
It's not just California. This stuff happens all over the West. But California is such a large and populous state, and due to crowding pushes straight up to (and sometimes into) the wooded foothills, that when we get big fires they often are in close proximity to neighborhoods. So we get a huge amount of coverage for our fires that the rest of the West often doesn't. 

I don't know enough about forestry and forest fires to give much beyond that, other than that much of Western US is basically high desert, so during the dry summer months there's nothing providing moisture to be a brake on burning.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8987 on: September 11, 2020, 04:09:17 PM »
Yeah, we have had multiple wildfires around here
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

 

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