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Honestbuckeye

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7266 on: August 28, 2020, 09:36:51 AM »
Now, now, now, not respecting life is a bipartisan issue, just depends the lens.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7267 on: August 28, 2020, 09:42:37 AM »
There is no definition of the term "violent" that applies to incarceration.

If we just misapply common terms at will, discussion will be difficult.

I may just as well start posting in French.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7268 on: August 28, 2020, 09:45:49 AM »
Now, now, now, not respecting life is a bipartisan issue, just depends the lens.
another definition issue

when does life begin?


conception?

heart beat?

birth?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7269 on: August 28, 2020, 09:54:46 AM »
I'm solidly pro-life.  I believe that abortion is a killing.
But who the president has not moved the needle on abortion as a legal issue or on how many women abort their babies.
Abortion--thankfully--has been going down since the 1990s under pro-life and pro-choice presidents alike.
And justices appointed by ostensibly pro-life Republican presidents have not proven to be reliable opponents of abortion.  Just recently, Kavanaugh voted with the liberals to create a deadlock that left a lower court's pro-abortion ruling stand.
I don't think our POTUS personally cares about abortion, but he knows that his white evangelical base does, so he makes it an issue.  Same reason he held up a Bible in front of the boarded-up church (which I found disgusting).  Same reason he moved the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem (which I favored).
I don't think "he'll appoint pro-life judges" is enough of a reason to vote for a scoundrel.
CW, you need a new play.  Your playbook is ineffective my friend.

your now days old diatribe against POTUS is not changing any minds.  You act like him holding a bible is unique to him.  Like no other politicians do and say things politically based lol.  Like You think Biden wearing a mask is because he thinks masks make sense.  Or that a single word that comes out of his mouth are his personal beliefs.  Or the fact that he FINALLY, mildly, denounced the rioting in our cities is because he is against it, and not because his CNN and other consultants warned him that their data suggests this issue is important to many swing voters and is starting to move against him.  Please.  

The playbook of criticism, calling anyone who disagrees a racist, second guessing, obstructing and dividing needs a refresh.  Like,  Coming up with a single position on the issues of the day and how you would handle it.  

Assume your talking to those of us who can’t stand POTUS as your starting point, and tell us why the other side is viable choice. 

I was going to post the dozens of twitter videos from just last night showing more mob violence, attacking law enforcement, etc...but you know it is out there in spades ( its what OAF) and you like to call progress.   Mobs of people surrounding outdoor diners and forcing them through fear to join in the chants of “ white silence is violence” and getting inches from the face of those who don’t comply (without a mask no less) and screaming at the top of your lungs.

and no cop outs here....don’t write off that this is what is going on or I will post the videos, and they are from twitter, not any news agency.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7270 on: August 28, 2020, 09:58:30 AM »
What should society do with bad guys who are a danger to society?

Serve them tea and cookies and just ask them to stop?

If you want to call it violent to lock somebody up that robs a bank then so be it

they still need to be locked up
Do you need to lock someone up who sells weed?  Misses a court date? Gets in a fight?  Has a gun in their pocket? What about a gun in their car? Do we need to lock someone up who gets an abortion?  

Anyways, locking someone up is violent. It's also the point - to cause some sort of harm as punishment.  Claiming it's actually nonviolent because it's some sort of state sponsored action goes down roads no one would agree with, which is why I prefer we don't start going down the road at all.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7271 on: August 28, 2020, 09:59:59 AM »
There is no definition of the term "violent" that applies to incarceration.

If we just misapply common terms at will, discussion will be difficult.

I may just as well start posting in French.




Nonviolence on display

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7272 on: August 28, 2020, 10:00:09 AM »
I've been locked up more than a couple times, nothing violent about it, IMO

everyone was cordial 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7273 on: August 28, 2020, 10:01:17 AM »

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7274 on: August 28, 2020, 10:05:04 AM »
There is no definition of the term "violent" that applies to incarceration.

If we just misapply common terms at will, discussion will be difficult.

I may just as well start posting in French.




Look at these chaps in their decidedly nonviolent situation

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7275 on: August 28, 2020, 10:07:40 AM »
I've been locked up more than a couple times, nothing violent about it, IMO

everyone was cordial

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7276 on: August 28, 2020, 10:08:11 AM »
I've been locked up more than a couple times, nothing violent about it, IMO

everyone was cordial
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7277 on: August 28, 2020, 10:08:24 AM »
Violence - behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7278 on: August 28, 2020, 10:10:12 AM »
Violence - behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
Prisons never force people - everyone is there voluntarily.  The barbed wire just makes for pretty decorations.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7279 on: August 28, 2020, 10:10:37 AM »

not sure who that is, but I was cordial enough that I didn't need a swat with that cane to get my attention
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