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longhorn320

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6048 on: August 07, 2020, 02:26:59 PM »
Here is a study on states based on how easy or hard it is to vote.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/elj.2017.0478

This is not a left v. right dichotomy, policies widely vary on all sorts of factors.  For example, is there early voting, is it easy to vote by mail, is voter registration automatic, etc. etc.  We know there are examples of legislatures intentionally trying to prevent poeple from voting.  For example, in North Carolina they came up with a voter ID scheme where they studied what kinds of ID's white and black voters might use and then disqualified the ones black people use more.  That was illegal and was overturned, but in my view, any restriction which makes it more difficult to vote and isn't justified by something pretty substantial is an unacceptable restriction on voting.  Corruption is often the reason - instead of valuing the people, the people in charge value being in charge. 
your requesting proof that vote by mail is highly subject to fraud

is like asking for proof that blind pilots are highly subject to crashing

there is no proof because blind pilots dont fly planes 

we need to use common sense sometimes and vote by mail is one of those times

now if there was a way to do vote by mail like absentee voting I would feel differently
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6049 on: August 07, 2020, 07:16:04 PM »
Biden is senile and every time he opens his mouth it's verbal diarrhea. Look at his actions- or lack thereof I should say. Who cares what his words are- that crime bill he always taunts as a great accomplishment of his was racist. Scumbag isn't the right word for the guy. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6050 on: August 07, 2020, 09:06:11 PM »

we need to use common sense sometimes 
Could we use it often?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6051 on: August 07, 2020, 09:06:43 PM »
Biden is senile and every time he opens his mouth it's verbal diarrhea. 
How would you describe his opponent's utterances?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6052 on: August 07, 2020, 09:12:19 PM »
your requesting proof that vote by mail is highly subject to fraud

is like asking for proof that blind pilots are highly subject to crashing

there is no proof because blind pilots dont fly planes

we need to use common sense sometimes and vote by mail is one of those times

now if there was a way to do vote by mail like absentee voting I would feel differently
We can do vote by mail like absentee voting.  That's certainly one option.  My preference would be a much more integrated vote.  We use government resources for various things - getting a driver's license, registering for selective service, using the post office - all of these should be integrated so that being able to vote becomes much easier and much more secure. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6053 on: August 07, 2020, 09:14:40 PM »
All citizens should be registered to vote and would have to opt out.  And election day should be a federal holiday.  

More people voting = good for everyone, right?  Right?  RIGHT?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6054 on: August 07, 2020, 09:21:12 PM »
All citizens should be registered to vote and would have to opt out.  And election day should be a federal holiday. 

More people voting = good for everyone, right?  Right?  RIGHT?
I like this. I say yes.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6055 on: August 07, 2020, 09:22:31 PM »
All citizens should be registered to vote and would have to opt out.  And election day should be a federal holiday. 

More people voting = good for everyone, right?  Right?  RIGHT?
One of the many regrettable side effects of the pretend "right v. left" has been the sacrifice of the idea that voting is a great thing and people should do be able to do it.  Now it's all "what politicians does this benefit" instead of what is good for the country.  It's so easy to get swept up in that crap.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6056 on: August 07, 2020, 09:23:58 PM »
One of the many regrettable side effects of the pretend "right v. left" has been the sacrifice of the idea that voting is a great thing and people should do be able to do it.  Now it's all "what politicians does this benefit" instead of what is good for the country.  It's so easy to get swept up in that crap.
Sad but true.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6057 on: August 07, 2020, 10:51:51 PM »
All citizens should be registered to vote and would have to opt out.  And election day should be a federal holiday. 

More people voting = good for everyone, right?  Right?  RIGHT?
I like this idea. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6058 on: August 07, 2020, 11:16:13 PM »
All citizens should be registered to vote and would have to opt out.  And election day should be a federal holiday. 

More people voting = good for everyone, right?  Right?  RIGHT?
I agree with this in theory.

but just like having folks vote for expanding the college football playoff to 6 teams by folks that have no interest  in college football, it's not good if folks have no knowledge of what they are voting for or against  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6059 on: August 07, 2020, 11:18:56 PM »
if folks aren't interested enough to register

they probably aren't interested enough to educate themselves on any of the issues

I really don't care if they do show up at the polls and cast an ignorant vote for the popular name, but I sure as hell down give a damn if they don't vote.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6060 on: August 07, 2020, 11:31:21 PM »
Saying something is fraught without telling what it is fraught with makes me fraught with anger. :96:
Relax and have a draught beer :singing:
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6061 on: August 07, 2020, 11:47:36 PM »
I agree with this in theory.
 it's not good if folks have no knowledge of what they are voting for or against 
Voters aren't informed now, as it is.  
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