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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4480 on: July 06, 2020, 10:06:54 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 06, 2020, 09:41:51 AM
I'm still curious about what "BLM" wants, aside from the chants and mantras.  Defund the police?  I don't even know what that means in practical terms.

Reduce their budget to spend the funds on something else? 

The police force here is 60% black which is about the constitution of the city.  Does that need to change?
I'd also like to know what they want, because if they don't get it, they're burning this f'er down.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4481 on: July 06, 2020, 10:35:29 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 06, 2020, 09:28:49 AM
No kidding?
No kidding. The Case for Reparations looked explicitly at Chicago and the history of segregation there. But it was a very similar story all across America. It was quite the struggle for black people to simply move to communities and build wealth. If you look at the racial makeup of suburbs and urban areas across America, you can see the root of the issue.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4482 on: July 06, 2020, 11:04:45 AM »
Finish HS, get a job, show up on time, be honest, work reasonably hard ...
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4483 on: July 06, 2020, 11:06:35 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 06, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
No kidding. The Case for Reparations looked explicitly at Chicago and the history of segregation there. But it was a very similar story all across America. It was quite the struggle for black people to simply move to communities and build wealth. If you look at the racial makeup of suburbs and urban areas across America, you can see the root of the issue.
Who was in charge when this cluster was built? I see that the president was JFK. The Governor of Illinois was Otto Kerner. The Mayor of Chicago was Boss Daley.



Robert Taylor Homes was a public housing project in Bronzeville on the South Side of Chicago, Illinois, bordered along State Street between Pershing Road (39th Street) and 54th Street alongside the Dan Ryan Expressway. The project was named for Robert Rochon Taylor, an African-American activist and the first African American chairman of the Chicago Housing Authority (CHA). It was a part of the State Street Corridor which included other CHA housing projects: Stateway Gardens, Harold Ickes Homes, Dearborn Homes and Hillard Homes.

History
Robert Taylor Homes were completed in 1962 and named for Robert Rochon Taylor (1899–1957), an African American activist and Chicago Housing Authority (CHA) board member who in 1950 resigned when the city council refused to endorse potential building locations throughout the city of Chicago that would induce racially integrated housing. At one time, it was the largest public housing development in the country, and it was intended to offer decent affordable housing. It was composed of 28 high-rise buildings with 16 stories each, with a total of 4,415 units, mostly arranged in U-shaped clusters of three, stretching for two miles (three kilometers).

Problems
Robert Taylor Homes faced many of the same problems that doomed other high-rise housing projects in Chicago such as Cabrini–Green. These problems include narcotics, violence, and the perpetuation of poverty. Planned for 11,000 inhabitants, the Robert Taylor Homes housed up to a peak of 27,000 people. Six of the poorest US census areas with populations above 2,500 were found there. Including children who are not of working age, at one point 95 percent of the housing development's 27,000 residents were unemployed and listed public assistance as their only income source, and 40 percent of the households were single-parent, female-headed households earning less than $5,000 per year. About 96 percent were African-American. The drab, concrete high-rises, many blackened with the scars of arson fire, sat in a narrow stretch of slum. The city's neglect was evident in littered streets, poorly enforced building codes and scant commercial or civic amenities. Aside from neglect and ignoring crime, police officers also felt unsafe in darkened hallways and were frequently shot at from the high rises. In the Robert Taylor Homes a survey was conducted and showed that the majority of residents either had a family member in prison or expected one to return from prison within two years. This caused issues when residents tried to relocate; many of these returning prisoners had partners, children and/or mental illnesses that prevented them from relocating to another residence.
 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4484 on: July 06, 2020, 11:30:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 06, 2020, 11:04:45 AM
Finish HS, get a job, show up on time, be honest, work reasonably hard ...
buy a house...watch it's value plummet as people move away from you... start at beginning again
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4485 on: July 06, 2020, 11:43:26 AM »
I sold my house to a black family.  The neighbors across the street were black.  We later sold the wife's house two doors over, no problems.

I think your story is mired in the '70s.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4486 on: July 06, 2020, 11:44:39 AM »
Yeah, I'm not buying it. I've had black neighbors in every place I've lived, except for the condo I'm in now (that I know of).
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4487 on: July 06, 2020, 11:49:51 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/us/racism-words-phrases-slavery-trnd/index.html

I laughed.  So, nobody thinks of these terms as being racial, but we're not supposed to use them?  We're suppose to change our vocabulary for what reason?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4488 on: July 06, 2020, 11:51:06 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 06, 2020, 11:43:26 AM
I sold my house to a black family.  The neighbors across the street were black.  We later sold the wife's house two doors over, no problems.

I think your story is mired in the '70s.


I wish it were.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4489 on: July 06, 2020, 11:51:54 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 06, 2020, 11:44:39 AM
Yeah, I'm not buying it. I've had black neighbors in every place I've lived, except for the condo I'm in now (that I know of).
How many black neighbors?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4490 on: July 06, 2020, 11:53:19 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4491 on: July 06, 2020, 11:55:42 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 06, 2020, 11:04:45 AM
Finish HS, get a job, show up on time, be honest, work reasonably hard ...
HS diplomas lead to jobs that get you to the level of home ownership in the Chicago or Atlanta suburbs? Seems a tad unrealistic. 

Plus you have all sorts of issues with socialization and such. The expectation is to throw off much of one's upbringing, how people around you dress and speak, even before considering how people act. Were it only that easy. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4492 on: July 06, 2020, 11:58:11 AM »
the question is, can we make it easier?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4493 on: July 06, 2020, 12:03:21 PM »
I'll start from the time I moved out of my parents' house. There were a lot in that neighborhood.

Rolling Meadows condo: 20+
Schaumburg townhome: 20+
Madison apartment: I don't think any, but I wasn't there much.
Palatine Condo: 10+
Vernon Hills townhome: 50+
Gurnee SF home: 1
Palatine townhome: 4

Punta Gorda: Unknown yet.
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