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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3052 on: June 09, 2020, 08:46:40 AM »
They aren't de facto licensed already?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3053 on: June 09, 2020, 08:47:11 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2020, 08:43:48 AM
Just read an editorial in the Trib that talked about the state requiring licensing for police officers. It's required for barbers, nurses and engineers, so why not cops? Make it a licensed profession and you'd see more accountability. I like it.
dont police go to an academy where they are required to pass to become police officers?  Seems that is a license
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3054 on: June 09, 2020, 08:52:44 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 09, 2020, 01:23:40 AM
That seems quite clear to me.  But you will keep on thinking that it's everybody else's fault and not yours.
Writers do what I do.  Hell, I got it from a writer.  
But I should change because jackwagons on the interwebz can't hang?  No tanks, mon.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3055 on: June 09, 2020, 08:53:06 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 09, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
dont police go to an academy where they are required to pass to become police officers?  Seems that is a license
Yeah, but it's all hijinks and goofs :)
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3056 on: June 09, 2020, 08:53:12 AM »
I can see granting them a state license after passing a consistent training course, and said license can be revoked or suspended by the state as needed.

Right now it's up to the department to suspend or fire an LEO.  He doesn't lose a license, if he did, he'd be unhirable elsewhere in the state.

I also don't know how consistent the training is to become an LEO.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3057 on: June 09, 2020, 08:55:59 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2020, 12:58:03 AM
They matter plenty. Deaths are tragedies, though I suppose if some of them died at the hands of police, they'd be labeled bad guys.

But in the end, it's a distraction. If something galls you, there are many other things that could also gall you. But it does not make this particular thing galling you illegitimate.

Shoot, in the 1960s, I'm sure malnutrition was an issue in black communities in the south. But weirdly we remember the people who fought for the right to vote rather than the people who ignored hungry kids.

(The backing of police is sometimes odd to me. It's basically the ultimate faith in the government, usually from people who seem least interested in trusting the government. Oh well.)
The inverse of what you wrote in parentheses is also true though. The mistrust of police usually comes from those people who seem most interested in trusting the government. I guess that could be viewed as just as odd. Idk.

Which is the distraction? Does bringing up black on black crime distract from the racist cops problem or is it vice versa?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3058 on: June 09, 2020, 08:56:30 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 09, 2020, 12:10:46 AM
not all black lives matter

the only black lives that matter is any that were killed by the police

Chicago had 18 black men die in one day from black on black crime but I guess since the police were not involved they didnt matter
Another disgusting deflection.
There are 913,000 black people living in Chicago, most in poverty, mostly segregated in the same neighborhoods.  It is a statistical certainty that they're going to commit crimes and violent crimes, often against each other.  

None of them took an oath to protect or serve anybody (minus those who are cops, obviously).  

There are 13,500 police officers in the Chicago PD.  All of whom took an oath.  

This false equivalencies are sickening.  And I no longer expect more from some of you, you are who you are.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3059 on: June 09, 2020, 08:57:15 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3060 on: June 09, 2020, 08:57:56 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 09, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
dont police go to an academy where they are required to pass to become police officers?  Seems that is a license
It's not a license. It's just an education.

For example, engineers go to school and come out with an engineering degree and the ability to sit for an 8 hour engineer-in-training exam. They are not engineers, however, until they practice for 4 years under a Professional Engineer. Only then are they permitted to sit in the exam room for 8 hours, to try and become a professional engineer.

Licensed professionals are also required to complete continuing education in order to relicense. For engineers it's 30 hours in a 2 year period.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3061 on: June 09, 2020, 08:58:40 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 09, 2020, 08:55:59 AM
Which is the distraction? Does bringing up black on black crime distract from the racist cops problem or is it vice versa?
Those who are deflecting here are also harping on the racism slant to this.  It's honestly not about racism, it's about cops murdering unarmed PEOPLE.  

I fear if the racial aspect was removed, some of you would care more.  Again, I can no longer give the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3062 on: June 09, 2020, 09:01:26 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 09, 2020, 08:58:40 AM
Those who are deflecting here are also harping on the racism slant to this.  It's honestly not about racism, it's about cops murdering unarmed PEOPLE. 

I fear if the racial aspect was removed, some of you would care more.  Again, I can no longer give the benefit of the doubt.
My post was not about deflection. It was about an issue that greatly disturbs me. Black lives don't matter when they are shooting each other. That's a huge problem and very disturbing.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3063 on: June 09, 2020, 09:03:56 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 09, 2020, 08:58:40 AM

I fear if the racial aspect was removed, some of you would care more.  Again, I can no longer give the benefit of the doubt.
yep we are all racists

Lord give me the strength to endure another day of OAM's witty sage postings
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3064 on: June 09, 2020, 09:06:26 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 09, 2020, 09:03:56 AM
yep we are all racists

Lord give me the strength to endure another day of OAM's witty sage postings
I didn't say that. 
To be specific, I think some of you have been brainwashed into viewing things a certain way.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3065 on: June 09, 2020, 09:08:09 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2020, 09:01:26 AM
My post was not about deflection. It was about an issue that greatly disturbs me. Black lives don't matter when they are shooting each other. That's a huge problem and very disturbing.
That's just it - the black-on-black violence is partly due to the systematic racism that keeps them poor and in segregated neighborhoods.  
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