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I was instructed you simmer the brats first.  NOT BOIL, simmer.

Can't remember which crotchety old badgerfan scolded me on that one though...

Get a good med,med-high fire going oil the casings - indirect(top down).Depends usually 20 minutes flipping once as to NOT TEAR the casings.Don't need any grill marks as they are going into a bun or kaiser roll,I've lightly steamed the rolls to soften them up.But Badge's way is fine if ya wanna braise method with onions/peppers etc

UCLA is just an example of what has been a pretty solid program that has disappeared.  One might look at status right now versus what has been typical since say 1970:

Michigan -
Ohio State +
USC ---
Texas --
Oklahoma o
ND o
Nebraska --

That's qualitative.  Then there are programs that have some good runs but not in the category:

Clemson +++
FSU --
Miami ---
Florida o
Georgia o
LSU +
Arkansas ---------
Missouri ---
Colorado ---
Wisconsin +
Iowa -
Penn State o

That is very qualitative of course, but I see more minuses than pluses.

What does "o" mean?  Stays the same?
If so, Oklahoma is not the same as it was in 1970.  In 1970, OU was wrapping up a reasonably crappy decade that only featured two major bowl games (lost to Bama and beat Tennessee) and in which the Sooners only won or tied for 3 conference championships and went 6-4 against Nebraska (maybe the best thing about the '60s), 1-9 vs. Texas.  1971 witnessed a turnaround with the 35-31 loss in the GOTC to #1 and defending national champ Nebraska and a Sugar Bowl win over Auburn.  Then a Sugar Bowl win over Penn State.  Then probation for two years.  Then an Orange Bowl win over Michigan for the MNC.  Then a Fiesta Bowl win over Wyoming.  Then an Orange Bowl loss to Arkansas.  Then an Orange Bowl win over Nebraska.  Then an Orange Bowl win over FSU in 1979 to close out the 1970s.  8 straight ('72-79) conference championships won or tied for.  A 7-2 record vs. Nebraska and a 6-2-1 record vs. Texas.

It means they are about as good as they have been over the past 40 years.  Oklahoma has been very good most of that time and are so today, hence o.

I'm saying they are about as good as they have been over the past 50 years or so, e.g., quite good.  They aren't down.

Consider the entire 50 years.

If you think they merit a + or -, OK with me, it was top of mind thinking about how many preeiminent programs are down, and not many are up.

OU IMHO has not fallen off some cliff like say USC/Texas/Nebraska, the BBs of yore.  Neither has ND.  Why are so many down and so few up?

Is that the Sugar Bowl where LSU rearranged their teeth?  I doubt it.

So am I correct that more upper level programs have sunk than lower level programs have excelled?  Maybe for the latter they are up and down, like Stanford for a while was formidable.  No one weaker program has really stayed near the top unless you include Clemson.