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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1498 on: April 19, 2020, 02:38:00 PM »
Tanqueray started out as a gin, did it not?
Does that explain the juniper-flavored vodka?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1499 on: April 19, 2020, 02:45:35 PM »
It IS gin, but gin is flavored vodka, developed by someone back when as a kind of tonic with juniper berries and other flavorings.

My favorite mixed drink is G&T except for this weird drink called a caiparoska, which you can't get around here without explaining how to make one.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1500 on: April 19, 2020, 03:06:29 PM »
I didnt realize Heineken was looked upon as bad beer

There are no bad beers just better ones
Heineken is good if you can get it canned or kegged... Or well-treated in the bottle. 

Green glass doesn't block much UV, so the green bottles lead to skunked beer.

Oddly Corona (clear glass) doesn't have that problem. Skunking is caused by UV hitting certain hop compounds. I understand that Corona uses a hop extract or something of the sort that doesn't have those compounds in the finished beer, so it doesn't skunk.

So... The flavor of Corona is intentional ;-) 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1501 on: April 19, 2020, 03:08:08 PM »
Aldehydes are bad for us.  Ethanol metabolism generates aldehydes which are somewhat attenuated by a surfeit of water.


Yeah, acetaldehyde is something that homebrewers watch out for. Gives a "green apple" flavor.

Generally it's not a big issue unless you try to finish a beer too "young", as the yeast will clean up any green apple given time. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1502 on: April 19, 2020, 03:38:34 PM »
If skunkiness is due to a trace of some organosulfur compound, modified hops could eliminate that.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1503 on: April 19, 2020, 04:12:33 PM »
Heineken is good if you can get it canned or kegged... Or well-treated in the bottle.

Green glass doesn't block much UV, so the green bottles lead to skunked beer.

Oddly Corona (clear glass) doesn't have that problem. Skunking is caused by UV hitting certain hop compounds. I understand that Corona uses a hop extract or something of the sort that doesn't have those compounds in the finished beer, so it doesn't skunk.

So... The flavor of Corona is intentional ;-)
Nah Corona definitely suffers from light strike as well.  In Mexico you can find it in brown bottles in places, tastes completely different. 

Heineken canned or draft, even in the Netherlands, tastes better than it does here in green bottles, but I still don't consider it particularly good.  Their global marketing IS really good, though, that's for sure!

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1504 on: April 19, 2020, 07:53:23 PM »
Heineken is a very strong brand in Asian American markets, particularly SE Asians living in US.   I know a distributor guy who said stores went nuts when they changed their labeling a few years ago.  He said his core consumers (Vietmanese and Thai immigrants were angry about it)  impacted sales. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1505 on: April 19, 2020, 08:11:44 PM »
Welcome to 2020 where we have devout White Nationalists throwing their support behind major college football coaches, and nobody cares anymore.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1506 on: April 19, 2020, 10:53:04 PM »
Welcome to 2020 where we have devout White Nationalists throwing their support behind major college football coaches, and nobody cares anymore.




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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1507 on: April 19, 2020, 11:22:54 PM »
Tanqueray started out as a gin, did it not?
Does that explain the juniper-flavored vodka?
We're having a little fun at the expense of the "it's not a martini if it's vodka" crowd, because technically gin is really nothing more than vodka, flavored with a particular subset of botanicals.

And I threw in another little poke at at the boutique vodka set, because again, gin is just a specialized subset of specifically-flavored vodka.

I believe I've also commented around here, of an article I read in a now-forgotten but then-trendy magazine, from maybe 15 years ago, remarking on the then-new craze of creating new boutique, flavored vodkas, and how "if we're not careful, we might just invent gin!"

Just a little fun I think.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1508 on: April 19, 2020, 11:38:40 PM »
Welcome to 2020 where we have devout White Nationalists throwing their support behind major college football coaches, and nobody cares anymore.


What am I missing?I'm not even drinking Vodka or Gin or Heineken
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1509 on: April 19, 2020, 11:58:39 PM »
Gin is my favorite spirit, but there are some dreadful gins out there, and I'm not just talking about bathtub gin and the stuff that will make you go blind from the bottom shelf in plastic bottles.  

Tanq, and Bombay ill pass.  

Rehorst is my favorite, Boodles, Deaths Door, Botanist, Beefeater, Old Raj, and under right mix Hendricks and Knickerbocker all pretty dang good.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1510 on: April 20, 2020, 12:11:35 AM »
We all have our personal tastes, but if you're passing on Bombay Sapphire in favor of Beefeater, well, I don't think we're going to agree on what, and what is not, a "dreadful gin."

I'll be clear, I'm not talking about base-label Bombay here,  Sapphire is something different.

Folks like to expound on Hendricks and how it mixes well with cucumber, but I loathe the flavor of cucumber and, after all, gin is based on juniper and not cucumber, so there you have it.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1511 on: April 20, 2020, 01:32:41 AM »
Gin is polarizing no doubt.  I don't get fuss over tanq or bombay, that's all.

Beefeater is perfectly cromulent. In other words, it's fine.   You go to a wedding, its probably there along side the Tanq or Bombay Sapphire. 

Hendricks does get typecast w cucumber but it has more range with that.  I'm with you, I don't want it with cucumber necessarily.  I like it as a gin gimlet.

 

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