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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #616 on: March 08, 2020, 06:39:51 PM »
Hmmm.  The Huey isn't showing up.  Is there a limit on how many megapixels can be in one post?

Trying it again.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #617 on: March 08, 2020, 06:43:19 PM »
It's there.  That Bird dog is a slightly modified older Cessna 172, the older ones had landing lights on the wings.  They are easy to fly, even I could do it.

The pilot would be very vulnerable to small arms fire from below.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #618 on: March 08, 2020, 07:14:15 PM »
It's there.  That Bird dog is a slightly modified older Cessna 172, the older ones had landing lights on the wings.  They are easy to fly, even I could do it.

The pilot would be very vulnerable to small arms fire from below.
Well, the Cessna 172 had tricycle landing gear, whereas the 170 was a tail-dragger, as is the Bird Dog.
OTOH, the Bird Dog has the all-round-vision "canopy," as does the 172 and as the 170 didn't.  But I understand that the Bird Dog was developed from the 170, and Cessna used the all-round-vision concept on the later 152 (the only Cessna I have flown), 172, and 182, which replaced the 150, 170, and 180.
Long ago and far away, in my first aviation assignment (1-17 Cav at Fort Bragg), we got assigned a Cobra-pilot captain who had inter-service-transferred from the Marines.  He was a section leader in the attack helicopter platoon of our air cavalry troop, which was of the old design, commanded by a major, and as big as a current air cavalry squadron, which is commanded by a lieut. col.  He quickly earned a bad rep by being quite obstreperous and by failing to pay any deference to the senior warrant officers (who represent the experience in nearly all Army aviation units).  He treated them as if they were junior NCOs, wanting them to hop to attention whenever he entered the room and such.  So they both hated and laughed at him.  He came to realize that he was not going to make pilot-in-command nor inherit command of the platoon and--I presume--that he didn't like aviation in the Army any more than he had liked things in the Marine Corps.
He bought himself a Cessna 170 and learned how to fly it, but apparently not how to land it in a crosswind, as he ground-looped it and tore up one of its wings.  Last I heard of him he was trying to find a replacement wing and planning to get out of the Army and try his luck in the FBI.

I wonder if the Bird Dogs had any sort of seat armor.  If not, the pilots probably figured out some way of providing protection--maybe by sitting on a flak vest or something similar.  The seats in the OH-58s I flew had armor protection made of--I guess--Kevlar, which protected the back, the bottom, and, with a pivoting panel, the outboard-facing side of the seat.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #619 on: March 08, 2020, 07:32:03 PM »
Yeah, I forgot about the 170.  Landing in a crosswind is a bit of a "learned behavior".  I was taught to crab initially on approach to get a read on the wind and then to come in with the upwind wing lowered and land on that outboard wheel.  It was fun once I could do it.  I took my check ride in a 152.  I could really handle that little guy and I guess it showed.  The lady checking me out had me land after an hour and let her out.  I figured I had really failed badly or passed, so I asked her "How did I do?" and she said "OK, I reckon.  Park this thing and come back to the FBO for the paperwork."  She had a local aviation fix point named after her.

https://aerosavvy.com/navigation-name-nonsense/

http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=39.364&lon=-84.522&zoom=10&api_key=763xxE1MJHyhr48DlAP2qQ

I had heard stories of 4 hour check rides where they had to refuel.

Somehow in the move my flight bag was lost, along with license and headsets and stuff.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #620 on: March 08, 2020, 09:01:14 PM »
Which intersection was named for your check pilot?  I see JADRO, NERVE, and LOVEY with a quick scan.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #621 on: March 08, 2020, 10:11:54 PM »
None of those, I don't even remember now.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #622 on: March 08, 2020, 10:17:11 PM »
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Margot Brooks.  I think the nav was MARGO.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #623 on: March 08, 2020, 10:30:43 PM »
Cool!

In the tactical part of Army Aviation, we almost never used those intersections for VFR flight.  Really, we didn't use VFR Sectional Maps very often--mostly 1:50,000 tactical maps.  When we did go "cross-country," we'd use VFR Sectionals, but we weren't often flying "Victor Airways" (e.g., V-97 on the sectional you posted).  We generally set up our own visual checkpoints and used pilotage/dead reckoning to fly from one to the next.

Our main occasion to use intersections was when we had our annual IFR checkrides, and then only if we took them in the Huey simulator.  If we flew them in the OH-58 we couldn't use intersections because--IIRC--they are established by intersecting radials from VOR stations, and OH-58s didn't have a VOR nav radio, only an Automatic Direction Finder (ADF), which would pick up Non-Directional Beacons (NDBs).

So the OH-58 wasn't rated for IFR flight, and you definitely didn't want to go inadvertent-IMC.  That prospect was a scary one, especially if you were flying single-pilot.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #624 on: March 08, 2020, 10:45:56 PM »
Yeah, I didn't use them, but was aware when some other pilot would announce "Over MARGO" where they were.  At times I'd be doing touch and gos and a Cessna Citation would call in and I'd clear the area and let them have the airport.  WE had VOR and ADF, and this was before GPS was in wide use.  

I was showing my son how to work VOR when the engine sputtered and then quit on me.  Soy bean field.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #625 on: March 08, 2020, 11:09:51 PM »
Good for soy beans!
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #626 on: March 09, 2020, 01:10:37 AM »
I'd plan to be quarantined on the ship for 30 days after the cruise
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #627 on: March 09, 2020, 08:23:33 AM »
We don't get the beverage package on cruises.  It sounds like a deal, but it really really isn't.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #628 on: March 09, 2020, 08:43:59 AM »
It is on our preferred cruise line. $15.99/day for unlimited (almost) everything is a very good deal.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #629 on: March 09, 2020, 09:04:18 AM »
We don't get the beverage package on cruises.  It sounds like a deal, but it really really isn't.
It's generally a deal for me.  It's also possible I drink too much on cruises... :)

Right now the cruise lines are offering extra enticements for obvious reasons.  I saw a flyer for Norwegian where they're offering FREE open bar to all passengers on all destinations in all cabins.   

 

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