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I had to drive 40 miles north of town to see a lawyer (boring story).  Traffic was pretty heavy, maybe I'm not used to it, midday.  I-75 is 6 or 7 lanes on each side with a two lane toll parallel express lane (which was horrendously expensive).  People are out and about here, for real.

I stopped at Wally World on the way back, it was fairly crowded, everyone with masks, some masks not over the nose as usual.

Even 40 miles north of me is still suburbia.  This place is really spread out.  That's the largest state east of the large river and the red blotch is metro ATL.  Stalin would live to see it today I think.

Atlanta's growth is amazing.  

My dad (born in 1940) remembered visiting Atlanta shortly after the war in the mid 1940's as a boy.  His mom was from the Atlanta area and he had cousins he stayed with.  Back then visiting Atlanta from Ohio was almost like going to a third world country.  He remembered farmers taking produce into town on horsedrawn wagons.  Compared to HIGHLY industrialized Cleveland and Akron that was incredible to him.  

100 years ago in 1920 Atlanta had a smaller population than Akron, OH and only about one-fourth the population of Cleveland:
1920 Census:

• 201k - Atlanta
• 208k - Akron
• 797k - Cleveland

1940 Census:

• 245k - Akron
• 302k - Atlanta
• 878k - Cleveland

If you compared the metro areas it would be even more stark.  In 1950 the Atlanta metro area was probably less than one-fifth the population of the Cleveland Metro Area.  

Today Atlanta is the 10th largest US TV market with almost 2.3M TV Households while Cleveland-Akron is 19th with a little under 1.4M TV Households.  

Population of Ohio, Michigan, Georgia, and Florida 1920-2020 (uses census for 1920-2010 and census est for 2020):

I don't know why but population figures fascinate me.  They occasionally become relevant when we talk about conference realignments and TV revenues and since we don't have a season this year, I'll look at this.  

Ohio's historical population:
Ohio became a State in 1803.  In the first census after that (1810) Ohio was 13th in total population out of 17 states.   The 17 were ranked:

• NY 959k
• VA 878k
• PA 810k
• NC 557k
• MA 472k
• SC 415k
• KY 406k
• MD 381k
• CT 262k
• TN 262k
• GA 251k
• NJ 246k
• OH 231k
• VT 217k
• NH 214k
• RI 77k
• DE 73k

In the 1820 census OH was #5, passing all but NY, PA, VA, and NC.  Passed NJ, GA, TN, CT, MD, KY, SC, MA

In the 1830 census OH was #4, passing NC.  

In the 1840 census OH was #3, passing VA.  

In the 1850 through 1880 census OH was #3.  


In the 1890 census OH was #4, passed by IL.  

In the 1900 through 1940 census OH was #4.  

In the 1950 census OH was #5, passed by CA.  Note, CA also passed IL and PA to move from #5 in 1940 to #2 in 1950.  

In the 1960 census OH was #5.  

In the 1970 census OH was #6, passed by TX.  Note, TX also passed IL to move from #6 to #4 and this was the first-ever US census in which NY was not #1.  CA took that spot.  

In the 1980 census OH was #6.  

In the 1990 census OH was #7, passed by FL.  Note, FL also passed PA and IL to move from #7 to #4.  

In the 2000 census OH was #7.  

In the 2010 census OH was #7.  

In the 2020 census OH will probably still be #7 but GA and NC are gaining fast.  In the 2010 census MI was #8, GA was #9, and NC was #10 but the census bureau's current estimate is that GA and NC have both passed MI.  They are still about a million down on Ohio but they are estimated to have gained about that number since 2010 so:

In the 2030 census OH will probably be #9, passed by GA and NC.  

Take it to the recipes thread!

(just kidding, looks awesome, I make a Dr. Pepper braised short rib that my son loves)

I recently read a new book about the Atlanta campaign that was fairly critical of Sherman's tactics.  I found myself often in disagreement, but it was interesting to see a different perspective, and perhaps the author was more correct.  I've been reading more details about the campaigns in Virginia in 1862-1863 and remain astonished that the Union could not find a general with "grit".  Hooker had Lee in bad shape in 1863 and simply stopped.  Lee didn't even have Longstreet's corps with him.

That is of course how the term "hookers" came into the vernacular.

When I lived in Marietta, our neighbors behind us that we hung out with were named Jackson. The wife [originally from Gainesville GA] was originally a Hooker though. 

You know... They got divorced. Maybe she's a Hooker again.

Stalin would live to see it today I think.

"Love"?


Either way, either Georgia, it beats the scenery he's enjoying in Hell.

I live in Marietta and have done so for 40 years. Where did you live?