2019 Wisconsin Season Thread

[rolltidefan]

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/nick-saban-explains-why-alabama-canceled-on-michigan-state/

and?

he's also spoken several times, including last week, about improving schedule, trying to schedule multiple p5 teams in a season, going to 9 conf games and making that standard for p5 confs. him giving a reason they cancelled a series 4+ years ago doesn't change the fact he's been outspoken about scheduling better.

fwiw, he might be gone by then. that's a long way out for someone pushing 70. but i seriously doubt it's got anything to do with playing a h/a series. also, we have h/a series with texas, nd, wvu and ou as well in next decade+.

[847badgerfan]

I'm just happy that it's happening. It appears that this replaces Virginia Tech on Wisconsin's schedule, which is a bummer.

VT is now 2031 and 2032. Whatever. 

[ELA]

and?

he's also spoken several times, including last week, about improving schedule, trying to schedule multiple p5 teams in a season, going to 9 conf games and making that standard for p5 confs. him giving a reason they cancelled a series 4+ years ago doesn't change the fact he's been outspoken about scheduling better.

fwiw, he might be gone by then. that's a long way out for someone pushing 70. but i seriously doubt it's got anything to do with playing a h/a series. also, we have h/a series with texas, nd, wvu and ou as well in next decade+.

Nobody is saying Alabama is trying to duck people.  Simply that they haven't under Saban, been willing to play true non-conference road games.  Whatever they are doing, it's working for them, they are the gold standard, and nobody thinks Saban is "scared" to play those games or anything, simply that they haven't been willing to, and he has a quote saying why.  Saban has only played 1 in his entire tenure, 2011 at Penn State.  2022 at Texas will be his second, if he's still there.

[CWSooner]

The 2024 game should be awesome!

[FearlessF]

I'm just happy that Badge can quit bitching now

[FearlessF]

Just saw this on the screen at Buffalo wild wings.  Sent Badge a text then had to login on my phone!

[847badgerfan]

I just read your text. I'm not a texter really...

[FearlessF]

yes, I'm aware

but, I'm not much of a poster via phone

I couldn't contain myself

[847badgerfan]

OLB Griffin Grady is retiring from football due to injury. UW is pursuing a medical scholarship for him, so he can remain on campus and wrap up his degree.

[ALA2262]

Nobody is saying Alabama is trying to duck people.  Simply that they haven't under Saban, been willing to play true non-conference road games.  Whatever they are doing, it's working for them, they are the gold standard, and nobody thinks Saban is "scared" to play those games or anything, simply that they haven't been willing to, and he has a quote saying why.  Saban has only played 1 in his entire tenure, 2011 at Penn State.  2022 at Texas will be his second, if he's still there.

The Alabama neutral site policy evolved because of GT asking out of the 2013-2014 H/H series with Bama. At the time the Atlanta Sports Council (read Gary Stokan) had a tentative agreement with USC (read Pete Carroll) to play in their game in either, not both, of those years. Pete's prefered opponent was Bama. Not knowing which year Pete would choose, Stokan was already in negotiations with Bama for both years. When GT asked out, it became a no brainer for Bama and they signed a contract for both years with the ASC. The USC agreement ended when Carroll left USC, and Bama wound up playing Va Tech and WVU.

The policy has ended because of Orlando's and Atlanta's inability to schedule better opposition than Louisville and Duke. One need only to look at Bama's future schedule(s) to see that is the case.
 
2020 - USC (Dallas)
2021 - Miami (Atlanta)
2022 - @ Texas
2023 - Texas
2024 - @ Wisconsin
2025 - Wisconsin
2026 - @ West VA
2027 - West VA
2028 - @ Notre Dame
2029 - Notre Dame
2030 -
2031 -
2032 - @ Oklahoma
2033 - Oklahoma

[CWSooner]

The Alabama neutral site policy evolved because of GT asking out of the 2013-2014 H/H series with Bama. At the time the Atlanta Sports Council (read Gary Stokan) had a tentative agreement with USC (read Pete Carroll) to play in their game in either, not both, of those years. Pete's prefered opponent was Bama. Not knowing which year Pete would choose, Stokan was already in negotiations with Bama for both years. When GT asked out, it became a no brainer for Bama and they signed a contract for both years with the ASC. The USC agreement ended when Carroll left USC, and Bama wound up playing Va Tech and WVU.

The policy has ended because of Orlando's and Atlanta's inability to schedule better opposition than Louisville and Duke. One need only to look at Bama's future schedule(s) to see that is the case.
 
2020 - USC (Dallas)
2021 - Miami (Atlanta)
2022 - @ Texas
2023 - Texas
2024 - @ Wisconsin
2025 - Wisconsin
2026 - @ West VA
2027 - West VA
2028 - @ Notre Dame
2029 - Notre Dame
2030 -
2031 -
2032 - @ Oklahoma
2033 - Oklahoma

2262, Bama seldom playing true road OOC games goes back pretty far.  Before the 2011 game at Penn State that ELA mentioned, you have to go back to 2002 and the Mike Shula era, when Bama played OU in Norman.  There was a 2000 game at UCLA, and then you've got to go back to 1990 1991 and a game at Memphis.

Bama is great and Saban is--it seems clear to me--the greatest ever.  But the scheduling history shows that--for almost 30 years--true road OOC games have been few and far between.

[rolltidefan]

2262, Bama seldom playing true road OOC games goes back pretty far.  Before the 2011 game at Penn State that ELA mentioned, you have to go back to 2002 and the Mike Shula era, when Bama played OU in Norman.  There was a 2000 game at UCLA, and then you've got to go back to 1990 and a game at Memphis.

Bama is great and Saban is--it seems clear to me--the greatest ever.  But the scheduling history shows that--for almost 30 years--true road OOC games have been few and far between.

first, this will be my last post strictly on bama in the wisky offseason thread. sorry badger fans.

1990 @ sw louisiana (no idea why we played them there, but we did)
1991 @ memphis (you had wrong year)
1992 @ tulane (part of a series, 93-94)
1996 @ nc state (part of a series, 95)

so you've got:
1990 - true road game, sw louisiana
1991 - true road game, memphis
1992 - true road game, tulane
1993 - return trip in h/a series, tulane home game
1994 - again tulane at home, maybe it was 2 for 1, don't know. but no true road game.
1995 - home game vs nc state, part of h/a series
1996 - true road game, nc state
1997 - no road game, no series
1998 - no road game, no series
1999 - no road game, no series
2000 - @ ucla, part of series
2001 - home vs ucla, part of series
2002 - @ ou, part of series
2003 - home v ou, part of series
2004 - no road game, no series
2005 - no road game, no series
2006 - no road game, no series
2007 - neutral game, vs fsu (jacksonville)
2008 - ... most everyone knows the drill from here

so since 1990, there's 2 periods of 3 year where we didn't either have a true road game or a series going, or playing a top team in a neutral game. btw, both periods were during our probation years. not sure it intentional or coincidental. 30 years, only 6 without a series or good ooc game. not to bad. and really, it goes a lot further back than just 30 years.

[CWSooner]

2262 and RTF:

Mea Culpa.

I stand corrected and please accept my apology.  My only excuse (other than having a typo on the 1991 Memphis game) is that I didn't look carefully enough to find those OOC games embedded in the middle of the season.  I knew they were there, and I looked for them, but obviously not closely enough.

[rolltidefan]

2262 and RTF:

Mea Culpa.

I stand corrected and please accept my apology.  My only excuse (other than having a typo on the 1991 Memphis game) is that I didn't look carefully enough to find those OOC games embedded in the middle of the season.  I knew they were there, and I looked for them, but obviously not closely enough.

it's cool, it happens. honestly, only reason i knew where to look is this has been a common argument against bama for a while now and i've seen the info before.

to be honest, i and most bama fans i know, are incredibly excited to have true home/away games again. especially against great teams/atmospheres like wisconsin. neutral games can be great, but they get tiring quick.

very much looking forward to camp randall.

saw some badger fans already trash talking, saying that last time 18-22 year old men from bama came to camp randall it wasn't so fun for them. (camp randall was a civil war pow camp). thought you'd enjoy that @CWSooner and @Badger1969