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Topic: 2019 Wisconsin Season Thread

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847badgerfan

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #126 on: April 15, 2019, 04:47:55 PM »
They played somebody in Dallas for that series, if I remember right. I don't know much about the thing, to be honest. All I know is it's how Alvarez was able to get them on the schedule, because that's what he said.
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2019, 05:27:53 PM »
They played somebody in Dallas for that series, if I remember right. I don't know much about the thing, to be honest. All I know is it's how Alvarez was able to get them on the schedule, because that's what he said.
I became an expert on it when I was wondering WTH ND was scheduled to play what I thought was neutral site games with Washington State in San Antonio in 2009 and with Baylor in New Orleans in 2012. ND must have been thinking WTH also because they sure had not intended it that way.

What I learned was they were not neutral sites games at all. They were off-site ND home games whereby ND controlled all of the tickets and NBC had the TV rights. They had booked the Alamo Dome thinking they could schedule UT or aTm and the Super Dome thinking they could schedule LSU or Bama. They found out the SEC and Big 12 TV contracts did not allow that. They bought out of the Super Dome booking and the Baylor scheduled game.

They also had booked Orlando in 2010 and 2011 thinking they could schedule UF and Bama. They got out of that contract because the Citrus Bowl did not make the required improvements to the stadium. They played Army at Yankee Stadium in 2010 and Maryland (ACC contract did not prohibit) in Landover in 2011.

They had to schedule another Pac 12 team, Arizona State for the 2013 game booked at JerryWorld, the Dallas game to which you refer. They were back in San Antonio in 2016 where it all started in 2009. They played Army because they were prohibited from scheduling a Big 12 or SEC team.

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2019, 06:02:19 PM »
ND has played the Shamrock series three times in Texas, in Arlington and twice in San Antonio (most recently in 2016). They played Pac-12 teams (Washington State and Arizona State) and Army there. Most of the other games have been against teams that were regularly scheduled, but whose home stadiums maybe weren't as exciting as playing in another nearby venue--with the exception of Miami at Soldier Field (others were Army and Syracuse at Yankee Stadium, Boston College at Fenway Park, Maryland at FedEx Field, and Purdue at Lucas Oil). Although not part of the Shamrock Series, they have also played Navy in Ireland (and will again in 2020), and when they play Navy away, they play all over the place, including San Diego, Jacksonville, FedEx Field in Maryland, and the Meadowlands. 

I don't understand the whole thing, but ND seems to like playing in those venues.

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2019, 06:59:35 PM »
As for Wisconsin and the coming season, I'm calling it now. A true freshman will be the starting quarterback. If not for game one, soon after. Staff has played this spring very close to the vest, probably because of this kid. Every reporter has great things to say about what they've seen so far.
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2019, 07:34:08 PM »
ND has played the Shamrock series three times in Texas, in Arlington and twice in San Antonio (most recently in 2016). They played Pac-12 teams (Washington State and Arizona State) and Army there. Most of the other games have been against teams that were regularly scheduled, but whose home stadiums maybe weren't as exciting as playing in another nearby venue--with the exception of Miami at Soldier Field (others were Army and Syracuse at Yankee Stadium, Boston College at Fenway Park, Maryland at FedEx Field, and Purdue at Lucas Oil). Although not part of the Shamrock Series, they have also played Navy in Ireland (and will again in 2020), and when they play Navy away, they play all over the place, including San Diego, Jacksonville, FedEx Field in Maryland, and the Meadowlands.

I don't understand the whole thing, but ND seems to like playing in those venues.
If by venues you mean the Shamrock Series, it is easy to understand. They are off-site Home games. ND controls all of the tickets, and NBC has the TV rights.
If you mean the Navy venues, it all has to do with Navy. ND doesn't have anything to do with them, including the game in Ireland in 2012. Those are off-site Home games for Navy. All games in even numbered years are Navy Home games, and they have never played ND at home. I'm hoping that someday they will schedule one of them on an aircraft carrier. In the middle of an ocean!  :)

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2018&team1=Navy&team2=Notre+Dame

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #131 on: April 15, 2019, 07:54:13 PM »
F Notre Dame (not the cathedral - very sad).



That is all.
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2019, 07:31:07 AM »
Alvarez on non-conference:


I can’t even think of all the ones we have coming in. I know UCLA in the future. Notre Dame. The Notre Dame thing was very difficult from the time I took over as athletic director 15 years ago. I talked to Notre Dame about the possibility of us moving into a permanent role on their schedule because I knew they were talking about dropping Michigan, Michigan State and possibly Purdue. I think they ended up dropping Purdue and Michigan State. I tried to work in there. It just didn’t work out. Now they start the Shamrock Series. They called several years ago and said this might be able to work. We could work you into the Shamrock Series for a game. We’ll give you a game. And actually, the one in Lambeau is their home game. The one in Soldier Field will be our home game.
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2019, 11:34:32 AM »
Alvarez on non-conference:


I can’t even think of all the ones we have coming in. I know UCLA in the future. Notre Dame. The Notre Dame thing was very difficult from the time I took over as athletic director 15 years ago. I talked to Notre Dame about the possibility of us moving into a permanent role on their schedule because I knew they were talking about dropping Michigan, Michigan State and possibly Purdue. I think they ended up dropping Purdue and Michigan State. I tried to work in there. It just didn’t work out. Now they start the Shamrock Series. They called several years ago and said this might be able to work. We could work you into the Shamrock Series for a game. We’ll give you a game. And actually, the one in Lambeau is their home game. The one in Soldier Field will be our home game.
Semantics. Designated home teams to determine uniform color. Rest assured both games are Notre Dame off-site Home games where it counts, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. 

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2019, 11:48:53 AM »
I'm thinking the Green Bay game will be on NBC and the Chicago game will be on Disney. They are splitting tickets (30K/each) at each venue. UW is not doing this for free, trust me. There is a reason they are top-5/10 in revenue every year, and playing for free is not that reason.
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2019, 12:49:18 PM »
Yeah, pretty safe bet that Barry has never felt that he needed ND on the schedule.

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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2019, 12:56:42 PM »
I'm thinking the Green Bay game will be on NBC and the Chicago game will be on Disney. They are splitting tickets (30K/each) at each venue. UW is not doing this for free, trust me. There is a reason they are top-5/10 in revenue every year, and playing for free is not that reason.
I can see ND making some concessions in their negotiations with the Shamrock Series. I live in the Atlanta area, and as a former member of the Atlanta Sports Council, I know for a fact that Gary Stokan, President of the Chick-Fil-A Kickoff Classic has called ND perhaps more than any other school in an attempt to get them in his game. He would not continue to do so if they were not willing to bend a little.

Time will tell. ND did make this announcement:

"The games against Wisconsin will be the “Shamrock Series” game for Notre Dame for both seasons, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick stated at the press conference announcing the events."

https://fbschedules.com/notre-dame-wisconsin-schedule-lambeau-soldier-field-football-series/
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #137 on: May 08, 2019, 12:11:27 PM »
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #138 on: May 08, 2019, 12:12:27 PM »
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Re: 2019 Wisconsin Offseason Thread
« Reply #139 on: May 08, 2019, 03:12:41 PM »
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