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Topic: 2019 Ohio State Season Thread

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »
I feel like maybe you aren't paying attention to what I'm writing because your last two comments either misrepresented or were irrelevant to what I've said. For one, I'm setting a micrometer high bar to step over (that it's "not impossible" this will affect UGa to some degree moving forward; perhaps one day with an out-of-region player). I also made clear that UGa should not have made a stink about the eligibility (should not have directly entered the fight with the NCAA), but may have been helped to support all who are verbally accosted, oppose all accosters, but also acknowledge that sadly this is a problem at every P5 university. That, rather than swallow the label as the only one.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #127 on: February 09, 2019, 02:25:06 PM »
I think UGA did the right thing, stay out of it entirely.

The "label" in the press release is irrelevant to their recruiting for reasons I stated.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2019, 02:29:35 PM »
It may end up irrelevant to their recruiting, but we can't know that yet. 2020 is the first class. And the idea that it probably won't affect southern kids is both shy of certain and excludes non-southern kids. Did you mention a different reason?

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2019, 02:36:29 PM »
Releasing some statement about some label is, to me, irrelevant to perceptions that could persist anyway, and call further attention to whatever.  It's not going to matter, at all.

If some player somehow thinks UGA is uniquely hostile fo black athletes, well, so be it.  Anyone who checks into the actual situation will know better, if they don't, I'd pass on them anyway.

In my opinion, this is a nothing event and will have zero impact on recruiting.  IN a year, nobody will even remember anything about it unless the two teams play in the  post season, and even then it won't be bad for UGA.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2019, 03:56:14 PM »
They might as well just completely get rid of the sitting out rule
If I recall you said Same thing When the Shea Patterson case was ruled on. I agreed with you then. I thought that was the biggest joke and anyone who really thinks he didn’t know with his brother and staff is just pissing in the wind.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #131 on: February 09, 2019, 04:38:43 PM »
In my opinion, this is a nothing event and will have zero impact on recruiting.  IN a year, nobody will even remember anything about it unless the two teams play in the  post season, and even then it won't be bad for UGA.
I am not sure we disagree is spirit. I'm betting  we either use language differently (that's my best bet) or that we have conflicting philosophies about haveable knowledge. If you mean "nothing," "zero," and "nobody" colloquially, then we don't even disagree, if you mean them in a literal/absolute sense, then we do. Either way, we're talking about microns in a game of miles and - colloquially - who cares.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #132 on: February 09, 2019, 04:39:21 PM »
If I recall you said Same thing When the Shea Patterson case was ruled on. I agreed with you then. I thought that was the biggest joke and anyone who really thinks he didn’t know with his brother and staff is just pissing in the wind.
If coaches can take new jobs whenever they like, I am all aboard players being allowed to do the same. I would only want it to be regulated, so that players can't get unsolicited contact from other schools, but I guess that's what the portal is so we are already set.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #133 on: February 09, 2019, 05:50:12 PM »
There's a difference between what's best for the players and what's best for the fans.  I'm not sure why fans aren't allowed to say something further dillutes their interest in a product.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #134 on: February 09, 2019, 06:28:10 PM »
It's hard to think a player as talented as Fields should have to sit at one program behind a starter who could well be there two more seasons.  Fromm might be a third rounder but I doubt he departs early, but he's a solid starter in college obviously.  I think Fields has potential first round talent if he gets experience and develops.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #135 on: February 09, 2019, 06:32:16 PM »
It's hard to think a player as talented as Fields should have to sit at one program behind a starter who could well be there two more seasons.  Fromm might be a third rounder but I doubt he departs early, but he's a solid starter in college obviously.  I think Fields has potential first round talent if he gets experience and develops.
It does suck that he had no idea Georgia had Jake Fromm on the roster when he signed his letter.  My heart breaks for him.  Similar to how everyone at Ole Miss was getting paid, but the #1 QB recruit in the nation not only didn't get paid, but wasn't even told everyone else was.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #136 on: February 09, 2019, 06:37:24 PM »
I think hyped 17 year old kids think they can walk on water and beat out some mediocre white guy (who put another 6'6" top ranked QB on the bench as well).

Fields figured he had more talent than Fromm and only one year less college experience.  It was a poor decision on his part, but the hype got to him I think.  He was one of the top two QBs coming out of HS and the other one started and won an NC.


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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #137 on: February 09, 2019, 08:02:34 PM »
Fortunately life lessons were avoided.  Best to keep thinking you are the greatest.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #138 on: February 09, 2019, 08:34:31 PM »
It does suck that he had no idea Georgia had Jake Fromm on the roster when he signed his letter.  My heart breaks for him.  Similar to how everyone at Ole Miss was getting paid, but the #1 QB recruit in the nation not only didn't get paid, but wasn't even told everyone else was.
yeah, except Ole Miss got hit with sanctions, the head coach got fired in disgrace, and Patterson had to plead his case and fight with the NCAA and Ole Miss to get his waiver. Patterson at least had the cover of plausible deniability. No one can prove he was paid anything or knew about it. And all of the scandal had nothing to do with Patterson.
Fields' case is what? Some guy I never met or even seen called me the N word? The guy called him the N word because he reportedly yelled in the stands- "put that (N word) in!". He was screaming for them to play Fields over Fromm. The drunk idiot was kicked off the baseball team immediately and eventually left UGA because of all the backlash he was getting.  Fields' waiver case is weak as fuuuuuh. It's kind of disgusting to me actually. Racism isn't a joke. If he was legitimately being harassed and bullied because of race that's serious. UGA is so bad and unsafe for blacks though- which explains why Fields' little sister goes there now. LOL. This little piss ant hot shot 5* Mr. All-American just used the race card so he could transfer and play right away because he didn't beat out Fromm. Fields walked into Georgia thinking he'd just start day one over a kid who took Georgia to the National Title game, and the minute he didn't win the job he transferred and used racism as a cover for getting his waiver to play right away. It's bullshit.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #139 on: February 09, 2019, 09:18:11 PM »
Fortunately life lessons were avoided.  Best to keep thinking you are the greatest.
If he doesn’t learn the lesson to not listen to half the BS most college coaches throw at kids, it wouldn’t stick. 

Is the half-failure he had not in a way it’s own lesson? 

 

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