2019 Michigan Season Thread

[Mdot21]

I don't think UM will need to fire Harbaugh, my guess is he'll still have interest from the NFL and take a job there to get out and save face.

they will be 8-5 or 9-4 imo.

I think Harbaugh's NFL stock is plummeting right now.

[MrNubbz]

that's right, keep those lips flappin

You mean fingers tappin',hey you don't have the shorthorns to kick around anymore.Might as well whip up the froth with the poisonous nuts for a week ta keep the blood flowin'

[FearlessF]

I like it and enjoy it

just hopin for some bad karma to keep the game close into the 2nd half

[MrNubbz]

Hey Purdue and Iowa woodshedded the Bucks so the Huskers certainly may steal one at home if Martinez shows up

[847badgerfan]

It all hinges on expectations.  At say Iowa State, expectations are obviously lower, and 9-4 is a solid season.  What should expectations be at Michigan, realistically?  10-3?

OK then.  But for any who "expect" to compete* for NCs almost every year, that won't cut it.

(By compete, I mean be in the conversation at least until the last game of the year.)

Bo is revered in Ann Arbor for winning 9 games per season and losing Rose Bowl games. What kept him around and revered was his 11-9-1 record against Ohio State, as well as beating up on the Little 8.

[MrNubbz]

Different times back then they didn't hand out Bowl Games like condoms at the Free Clinic

[FearlessF]

different for sure, but his point is : if Jimmy was winning 9 games per season and losing Rose Bowl games (not winning toilet bowls) and had a 11-9-1 record against Ohio State

Jimmy would be in great shape

[847badgerfan]

Yeah, that was my point. Now, with the extra games added, I'd say JH would be in good shape if he averaged 10 wins and beat his rival(s) at a better clip.

There is a chance he could go O-fer this season against MSU, ND and OSU (and PSU).

Michigan needs to show up this weekend and not overlook ________ in favor of Iowa. 

[SuperMario]

Yeah, that was my point. Now, with the extra games added, I'd say JH would be in good shape if he averaged 10 wins and beat his rival(s) at a better clip.

There is a chance he could go O-fer this season against MSU, ND and OSU (and PSU).

Michigan needs to show up this weekend and not overlook ________ in favor of Iowa.

There's a very good chance of that happening. Not only was Wisconsin very good, but Michigan was very bad this weekend. They were slow, soft and poorly coached. As much as JH was supposed to be the QB Whisperer, he has actually turned out to be the exact opposite. 

The characteristic of JH that has always made me uneasy is that he seems like he has a greater desire to be Aristotle than Paul Brown. I like that he's trying to shape men, but sooner or later the football fan in me needs to see more wins and less tours of Italy and quotes about choices between good and evil. 

[Anonymous Coward]

Got back home late last night. My thoughts:

• For the first time, I found it delightful to have a wedding-football conflict
• Redzone turnovers are known to have a negative effect
• Taylor will be a NY finalist
• Especially with Dwumfour injured, Michigan is severely undersized at tackle for Don Brown's 4-3. The 2017 and 2018 classes included Hudson, Paea, and Solomon at DT. Two of those guys left and one was an OL anyway. There's your problem. I'm thinking for program health it's more crucial than ever to NOT play Mazi and Hinton this year. Going forward, their redshirts seem essential.
• UW has quietly assembled a fascinating defensive front. People are calling it a 2-4-5, and I think that's right. Superficially, it resembles a 4-3, but the inside guys like Loudermilk are SDE sized, and the  outside guys are LB sized (< 240lbs). That makes their success remarkable, because they looked around the country, said "nah, you don't need that many true DL up front" and it's actually working. I wonder if that'll catch on. I'm betting it will.
• Shea Patterson has always had trouble with zone. But in this game, he struggled to read the field at all. Even when he had time. Here, Nico Collins beats his man onto the ground and gets 30-yards downfield before Shea throws it. There is no safety there. Shea still can't see him:
• 
  https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1175770009949356032
• eeewwwww

[Mdot21]

Different times back then they didn't hand out Bowl Games like condoms at the Free Clinic

Lmao

[Mdot21]

Shea Patterson is terrible. It's time to see what McCaffrey has provided he clears concussion protocol.

Jim Harbaugh is a has been. I am pretty sure that the guy is on meds that stabilize his mood. He has the signs of it to me. I don't see the raging competitive asshole that went nuts on refs and players. Reminds me of my father who was a psycho, went on meds and then just became a boring shell of himself. Where the hell is the fire from Jim? Where is the passion? Where is the crazed dog? Where is that competitiveness he used to display openly and it used to rub off on the team. Jim was never a great X's and O's guy, Jim was never a great personnel guy, Jim was never a great decision maker. What he was was a great motivator. His energy rubbed off on his teams and he willed them to victory almost with his competitiveness and his edge. He made everyone of his teams raise their level of competitiveness and toughness. That's completely gone to me. Jim has been neutered and he's not the same coach anymore.

This team has zero energy. This team has zero leadership. This team has zero sense of urgency. This team has zero discipline. This team has zero accountiblity. Where is the leader barking at the teammates and getting on their asses for not playing up to standard. Shea has no leadership. Look at Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman or Tom Brady or Dan Marino. Those guys are COMPETITIVE to a fault. They were hard on themselves and hard on teammates. They demanded perfection from themselves and from everyone around them. I DO NOT see this from little Shea. I see a pouting pussy ass millenial with zero fire and zero will to compete that refuses to look in the mirror and lay blame where it belongs: with himself.

This team/program is soft. And it's only edge would have been it's toughness, because Jim can't out-scheme or out coach any legit high level coach. He just can't. His ability in that regard is just average at best.

[Cincydawg]

So, can this season be saved?

[Mdot21]

Bo is revered in Ann Arbor for winning 9 games per season and losing Rose Bowl games. What kept him around and revered was his 11-9-1 record against Ohio State, as well as beating up on the Little 8.

Bo won more than 9 games per season. He won 10 or more games 12 times in his 21 years at Michigan. He had a 4 year stretch where he only lost 3 games in 4 years. He went 41-3-1 from '71-'74.

Jim is losing 3 games a season minimum right now. Harbaugh could only dream of a stretch run like that at this point. Bo was the head coach at Michigan for 21 years. He went 21 years without ever having a losing season. 6-6 in 1984 was his worst season- a .500 season. That's pretty impressive, to go 21 years and never have a losing season. Every other of Bo's 20 years- he had a minimum of 8 wins.

Yeah he lost too many Rose Bowls, but aside from that he was a great coach. He was a model of consistency, won a ton of games, and he beat Ohio State more than he lost to Ohio State.