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Topic: 2019 Michigan Season Thread

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MrNubbz

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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #490 on: September 23, 2019, 09:11:23 AM »
Harbaugh has suffered some close rivalry losses that could have gone either way as well. 


ARE you seriously comparing Michigan's resources or even Iowas to the Cyclones.I'd love to see Campbell at those gigs.This isn't even apples to oranges it's Grape Fruit to crab apples  :017:.Come to think of it I may not want to see Campbell in AA.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #491 on: September 23, 2019, 09:23:55 AM »
Harbaugh also did Campbell-esque things at Stanford, which was absolutely dreadful when he took over.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #492 on: September 23, 2019, 09:30:30 AM »
I guess we won't know until Campbell gets his shot at a top 10-15 program.The reason I bring this up when Cooper was fumbling things away in C-Bus my Buckeye Grad friends and I traveled 75 miles down the road to Stambaugh Stadium.That's in Y'Town to see a little known coach from Berea,Ohio help YSU win some big games for the Penguins
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #493 on: September 23, 2019, 09:47:32 AM »
John Cooper is somewhat comparable to Campbell. 

Lots of wins, some close losses in rivalry games, maybe a few more Conference titles... 
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #494 on: September 23, 2019, 09:57:07 AM »
Put that thing out you'll burn your fingers.Cooper was very avg at Tulsa where he lost to the rival(Ok St)more often than not before they were decent.At AZ St he was 0-2-1 vs his rival Arizona.He started off 0-4 vs Michigan before the tied a game then lost and finally beat them in his 7th season.Funny the guys before and after Cooper both had winning records vs the Wolverines.In Coopers 13 seasons he was 2-10-1 vs UM,yet during that tenure both OSU & Michigan had 64 players drafted.What was the disparity - a crappy head coach that's what.Just like Lane Kiffin he kept falling forward.YOU could have done a better job - the man should have been shit canned after establishing himself as failure in big games - I lived through it.Look at Georgia after finally cutting ties to Mark Richt.Nice guy but isn't going to get you over that hump.The die hards had the torches & pitchforks out long before Coop got finally got pinched.Maybe you were in huggies during that period
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #495 on: September 23, 2019, 10:07:45 AM »
I am pretty much off the Harbaugh bandwagon, but you almost have to keep him. Who are you going to find better to replace him? He's going to get you 10-3 every year, with maybe a 8-5 in there like this year looks like and like 2017 was. Michigan was a disaster before him with Rodriguez and Hoke. 10-3 with 8-5 years sprinkled in is a hell of a lot better than the disaster they were with the previous coaches.

Can't really get rid of him until there is something better to replace him with. I'm not seeing the next Meyer or Saban out there. If there was a hot-young coach like Meyer back in '03-'04 then I'd say go for it. I don't see that guy anywhere however. I'd love to nab Lincoln Riley, but he's not leaving OU.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #496 on: September 23, 2019, 10:08:08 AM »
Campbell would be a good first phone call if Hairball goes back to the NFL. 

I just don't see the rational behind running off Harbaugh, just to hire a less established version there of. 

That's just asking for another faceplant of epic proportions. 
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #497 on: September 23, 2019, 10:11:21 AM »
It all hinges on expectations.  At say Iowa State, expectations are obviously lower, and 9-4 is a solid season.  What should expectations be at Michigan, realistically?  10-3?

OK then.  But for any who "expect" to compete* for NCs almost every year, that won't cut it.

(By compete, I mean be in the conversation at least until the last game of the year.)

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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #498 on: September 23, 2019, 10:13:18 AM »
Oh I hope they don't run him off.Just sayin after 5-6 seasons in ya gotta start thinking about it.JH is just different had he won the division or conference once he'd be in a good postion.The natives are getting restless.I'd give him one more season but he has to salvage this season somewhat
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #499 on: September 23, 2019, 10:14:14 AM »
I would guess the folks in AA expect to beat the Buckeyes more than a few times a decade

I'm just guessing
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #500 on: September 23, 2019, 10:17:24 AM »
That's just crazy talk, like the CornHuskers expecting to :singing:
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #501 on: September 23, 2019, 10:18:15 AM »
that's right, keep those lips flappin
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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #502 on: September 23, 2019, 10:20:09 AM »
I don't think Harbaugh is getting to 10-3 this year.

Michigan looked like a 7-5/8-4 type team on Saturday.  They looked soft and undisciplined - I think they'll lose to MSU/OSU/Notre Dame, and will lose at least one of Iowa/Penn State/Maryland.

I don't think UM will need to fire Harbaugh, my guess is he'll still have interest from the NFL and take a job there to get out and save face.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #503 on: September 23, 2019, 10:20:54 AM »
I would guess the folks in AA expect to beat the Buckeyes more than a few times a decade

I'm just guessing
Ohio State has won 14 of the last 16 vs Michigan. Michigan is 2-14 vs Ohio State in the last 16 games. That is pathetic.

The folks in AA used to expect to beat the Buckeyes every year. For 13 years Michigan dominated OSU. John Cooper's record vs Michigan was 2-10-1.

They've taken it to Michigan even worse than Michigan took it to them when Cooper was there.

Ever since Bo got to A2 in '69 the series was pretty even from that point til Cooper arrived. Michigan dominated the Cooper years. Then Tressell arrived and Ohio State has dominated ever since.

 

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