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Topic: 2019 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #364 on: August 16, 2019, 02:41:11 PM »
Colitis flares can spring back anytime and without warning. They also have been linked to stress, which a CFB season ... has.

Obviously no one knows his situation better than his doctors and he. But it's easy to underestimate this condition, and ~20 pound weight loss on flare number one isn't a small thing.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #365 on: August 16, 2019, 05:23:29 PM »
Would like to see the doctors get that under control, if possible. UC is no joke.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #367 on: August 17, 2019, 11:44:45 AM »
Apparently Luke Fickell asked Harbaugh to lie to the NCAA about Hudson leaving because he was "forced" to play OL. I don't know which part of Fickell's thought process was more broken -- (a) inclination to get a coach you don't like to lie for you or, even if it worked, that (b) the NCAA would believe in the structure of this lie: 

"Hudson left A2 because he was forced to play OL and transferred to Cincinnati ... where he is excited to play OL"

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #368 on: August 17, 2019, 11:55:45 AM »
It sounds like his biggest mistake was thinking Michigan cared about helping Hudson get eligible.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #369 on: August 17, 2019, 12:14:06 PM »
Harbaugh wants Hudson to be eligible. He's lobbying hard for a policy for literally every transfer to be eligible. Just don't expect him to lie to get Hudson eligible. Also don't expect Harbaugh to lie to help a coach who's done the opposite of build good will with him.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #370 on: August 17, 2019, 02:33:06 PM »
Apparently Luke Fickell asked Harbaugh to lie to the NCAA about Hudson leaving because he was "forced" to play OL. I don't know which part of Fickell's thought process was more broken -- (a) inclination to get a coach you don't like to lie for you or, even if it worked, that (b) the NCAA would believe in the structure of this lie:

"Hudson left A2 because he was forced to play OL and transferred to Cincinnati ... where he is excited to play OL"
At least- that’s the story on Michigan fan boards/ if you are to believe them.
Then you also have to believe that Day at OSU and Saban at Bama lied to get their transferring  players eligible at UC.

Methinks it is much more nuanced- but knowing Fickell I am highly confident he asked nobody to lie 
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #371 on: August 17, 2019, 02:40:51 PM »
Harbaugh flat out lied to that recruit out of Chicago 3 years back.Holding a spot on the roster....until he didn't.Even the head coach and the kids mom blamed jim.There is a lot of he said/she said in this drama and neither you or I know who said what,just what sources with interests say.Quite frankly  it is a bad look to say you're depressed,changing schools to play doesn't change that.But if you agree to let him go let him go....or don't
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #372 on: August 17, 2019, 04:13:23 PM »
At least- that’s the story on Michigan fan boards/ if you are to believe them.
Then you also have to believe that Day at OSU and Saban at Bama lied to get their transferring  players eligible at UC.

Methinks it is much more nuanced- but knowing Fickell I am highly confident he asked nobody to lie 

You're absolutely right. Since you and I are neither named Harbaugh, nor Fickell, we can't be *certain* of the truth. We can only collect signals. On this there are two:

(1) Harbaugh said this:
  • “Coach Fickell tried to coach me on how to say it differently,” Harbaugh said. “I told him, ‘Coach, I believe in telling the truth. Forthright. Honest. What I told James, what I tell you, what I tell compliance is going to be the truth.’”

(2) and then Fickell was asked about it in an interview and didn't deny it.

Maybe you think that's because Fickell has a zen-like "rise above it" personality. And maybe that's not what you think. But it is true that we just don't know for sure.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #373 on: August 17, 2019, 04:27:35 PM »
Here's what Fickell said the day after Harbaugh allegations

"... Just like I called coach Day at Ohio State and Coach Saban at Alabama. I did nothing different than what I did with those guys and the results are different."

None of the local sources are repeating Fickell ever even mentioning that.Stadium and Main Hot takes aren't all that

This from the Cincinnati Enquirer
Harbaugh has said in the past he believes transfers should be allowed to leave a school with instant eligibility once, no matter the circumstances. He repeated that on Tuesday. But he expressed doubt last month when asked during a radio interview with ESPNU whether college athletes should be allowed to gain immediate eligibility under the current rules in place due to mental-health or depression-related conditions.

What did Habaugh say about the twisted web we weave or sumsuch
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #374 on: August 17, 2019, 04:29:00 PM »
That isn't the same thing as Fickell denying that he asked Harbaugh to doctor his story to the NCAA.

We're still in the same place we were at the end of my post. Either Fickell didn't deny it because he can't, or he could have denied it but didn't because he's a zen dude who's above that drama/noise.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #375 on: August 17, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »
Harbaugh has said in the past he believes transfers should be allowed to leave a school with instant eligibility once, no matter the circumstances. He repeated that on Tuesday. But he expressed doubt last month when asked during a radio interview with ESPNU whether college athletes should be allowed to gain immediate eligibility under the current rules in place due to mental-health or depression-related conditions.

What did Habaugh say about the twisted web we weave or sumsuch
This is a weird part of your post. You seem to imply there's an inconsistency here. I don't think there is. Harbaugh is wanting a future world (with a rule change to get us there!) where every player gets one freebie (instant eligibility) transfer. And he's lobbying for that rule change. Until it happens, he's saying he'd prefer us to be rigid about the rules we have.

For context, he benefited from the Shea Patterson ruling and enjoyed that but also thinks that means the overall process is unfair and too subjective.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #376 on: August 17, 2019, 04:43:55 PM »
Again according to you,you're throwing shit against the wall hoping it sticks.AGAIN Harbaugh has said in the past he believes transfers should be allowed to leave a school with instant eligibility once, no matter the circumstances.Well he obviously doesn't,you are are flat out repeating Harbaugh's twisted version..Weird part of my post none of the writers/reporters are repeating your bullshit
.Fickell never coached Harbaugh to say shit.I already gave you his response is that to complex to decipher
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #377 on: August 17, 2019, 04:54:06 PM »
Yes. He wants a new rule where everyone is eligible no matter the circumstances. But we don't have that rule yet, so he and everyone else is stuck with the rules we have.

Meanwhile, Fickell still hasn't denied Harbaugh's claim. Maybe he'll change his mind and deny it soon.

 

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