2019 Michigan Season Thread

[MaximumSam]

You are still focused on presence/absence. Focusing on extent/stakes/recidivism would involve comparing Meyer and Harbaugh on this. For example on the severity of their scandals, whether they lied about those, how often those worst scandals appeared, and how far back in their careers those scandals began. Go ahead and focus that if you like.

I am. I certainly see very little difference in the scandals, other than how the media reacts to them.  The Urban Meyer "lying scandal" was mostly about his statement that Zach Smith had no felony charges (which was true) without admitting that he was aware of at least some sort of accusations.  That's not really lying about something very important, IMO.

[MichiFan87]

Sorry if this is TMI, but I've had ulcerative colitis since I was in HS, but it has mostly been in remission since I was 20 due to the medications I take. Having a flare is certainly no fun, though. Other people have less success in getting it treated, though, so if that's the case with Thomas, I wouldn't be surprised if he redshirts this year.

[Mdot21]

two things...

1) really sucks about Ambry Thomas. Hope he can just recover and get back to being healthy, forget about football. Just a real bummer for a kid with huge talent. Definitely one of the fastest, most explosive athletes in the conference. Just a real shame he's suffering this setback in what was due to be his real breakout year.

2) James Hudson is a baby. He lost out on the starting RT job as a RS Freshman to a 5th year senior and instead of sticking it out he immediately took his ball and went crying back home to Ohio. Who cares what he has to say? I sure as hell don't. You shouldn't get your waiver approved just because. He left Michigan for one reason. He was pissed about his playing time. As a redshirt freshman offensive tackle. A position that takes time to develop into, and he was switching over from defense no less. Seriously, who the hell cares what he says.

[Mdot21]

5* true frosh Chris Hinton is in the two deep at DT.

Really sucks that Rashan Gary left early and Aubrey Solomon transferred to Tennessee. Michigan has the worst luck with this crap. I was hoping that Gary would come back after a hugely disappointing junior year where he missed most of the year with injury. Solomon was only a true soph that was just starting to really hit his stride. Played a ton as a true frosh, dealt with some injuries as a true soph and then inexplicably transfers to Tennessee. I tell you what, this DL would look a lot different right now if you had Gary and Solomon in that mix.

[Cincydawg]

Would you think 9-4 is about as bad a season as it could be (barring some bizarre injury bug)?

Lose every loseable game and the bowl game, maybe see an upset somewhere.  Is this team able to play with Clemson and Bama yet?  I guess that's why they play them, my original quote there.

[Mdot21]

Would you think 9-4 is about as bad a season as it could be (barring some bizarre injury bug)?

Lose every loseable game and the bowl game, maybe see an upset somewhere.  Is this team able to play with Clemson and Bama yet?  I guess that's why they play them, my original quote there.

9-4 would be a disaster. Especially if they lost to Ohio State....again. Probably only Georgia is ready to play with Clemson/Bama. Michigan is still not there yet.

They have an excellent OL coach in Ed Warriner. They are returning 4/5 starters on the OL, and they have more depth at OL than they've ever had at any point in Harbaugh's tenure. They go two deep with really solid players at all 5 OL positions for the first time ever.

They have a highly touted, experienced senior QB returning in Shea Patterson. They have probably the best RB recruit they've signed in at least a decade in Zach Chabornnet. If there's one position in the sport you can lean on a freshman at, it's RB. A RB either has it or he don't. Haven't been this excited for a RB coming into Michigan in a very long time. They have WR talent coming out the wazoo.

If they can't put this all together to have an explosive offense and a really good season with the new OC Gattis at the helm, it'll just never happen with Harbaugh.

[FearlessF]

year 2 with Gattis could be much better, if he can find the right QB

[Mdot21]

year 2 with Gattis could be much better, if he can find the right QB

Shea should pick up that offense fast. That's the style of offense he came from at Ole Miss and the style of offense he played at all throughout high school. It was this pro-style offense under Harbaugh that was completely foreign to him.

[Cincydawg]

9-4 would be losses to OSU, ND, and PSU, plus a bowl game against say Florida.  I had that as the worst they could do, barring something weird.

[Mdot21]

9-4 would be losses to OSU, ND, and PSU, plus a bowl game against say Florida.  I had that as the worst they could do, barring something weird.

Not sure how good PSU will be. That white out at night on the road is a TOUGH game. Harbaugh seems to have Franklin's number however.

Losing to OSU this year, at home, with a senior QB in Patterson and with no Urban Meyer on the other sideline = unacceptable. Harbaugh will start to lose me if that happens.

ND to me, on paper at least right now looks like the toughest game on the schedule. Thankfully they get them at home.

[MrNubbz]

Losing to OSU this year, at home, with a senior QB in Patterson and with no Urban Meyer on the other sideline = unacceptable. Harbaugh will start to lose me if that happens.

Oh please oh please oh please,Puhle-e-e-ze

[Cincydawg]

I'm not PREDICTING 9-4, just pondering what would be the worst reasonable season that could happen.  Georgia could be 9-4 just as easily, losses to ND, Florida, Auburn, and the bowl game.  Georgia could lose to A&M as well in Athens.  The ND game in Athens might be epic, the crowd will be ready, it's a night game.

Auburn is at Auburn, a series where curiously the visiting team seems to win more often than not.

[Anonymous Coward]

5* true frosh Chris Hinton is in the two deep at DT.

Really sucks that Rashan Gary left early and Aubrey Solomon transferred to Tennessee. Michigan has the worst luck with this crap. I was hoping that Gary would come back after a hugely disappointing junior year where he missed most of the year with injury. Solomon was only a true soph that was just starting to really hit his stride. Played a ton as a true frosh, dealt with some injuries as a true soph and then inexplicably transfers to Tennessee. I tell you what, this DL would look a lot different right now if you had Gary and Solomon in that mix.

I don't think [EDIT] Solomon would have made much of a difference (he barely played last year and has been veiledly accused of having an allergy to hard work). I certainly wouldn't guarantee a starting spot for him. He'd improve the depth, admittedly. Then for Gary, would *love* to have him. But DE is not a weakness for this team. It's not even on the radar.

CB is the far away leading concern, then DT. DE, linebackers and safeties look like strengths.

[Anonymous Coward]

9-4 would be losses to OSU, ND, and PSU, plus a bowl game against say Florida.  I had that as the worst they could do, barring something weird.

I'd say a home loss to MSU ranks as more likely than @PSU. Either would portend a disappointing year.