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Topic: 2019 Michigan Season Thread

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Mdot21

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #392 on: August 18, 2019, 02:03:11 PM »
You"re right but Harbaugh doesn't need to accuse someone else of being slippery when they weren't.I don't necessarily agree with the immediate transfer thing.These kids have enough time to figure out where the want to go.There should be like a 4-5-6 game penatly.The kid transferring to play football some where else isn't going to ease his depression.Unless the circumstances are unbearable.But Harbaugh was on record as saying he's for immediate transfers,so take the high road and sign his release or in JH's case don't.
Michigan signed his release. Harbaugh didn't say anything. He repsonded to something Fickell said. We wouldn't even be talking about any of this if Fickell didn't open his fat mouth. Better idea: the coach at Cincinnati should shut up and focus on coaching his team.

James Hudson is not a victim. He's an entitled brat like most American teeangers/young adults are these days. He was pissed off that he didn't get what he wanted, when he wanted it, so he left. More power to him. But the rules are the rules, and when you choose to transfer you have to sit out a year. You can apply for a waiver to be eligible to play right away, but it's not a slam dunk. It's 50-50 at best. He knew all that going in. He's the one who decided to transfer.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #393 on: August 18, 2019, 02:37:09 PM »
JH shot his mouth off at media days citing transfer portals and depression since that could only be referring to one individual even John U.Bacon could figure it out.Nice professional job of providing some privacy on personal matters.Again I'm repeating Harbaugh was on record as saying he's for immediate transfers,so take the high road and sign his release or in JH's case don't.Why so late?Why not wave the criteria,Hudson evidently didn't want to air his private business.If he is troubled I don't blame him.Hudson's mother works in the psychiatric field I thought I had read.Again I don't agree with transferring w/o some serious bench time.He may be entitled or depressed ,all Fickell said was the process went smooth with Saban/Day that's pointing out the truth not stirring up the pot
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #394 on: August 18, 2019, 04:16:39 PM »
Your probably right Mdot.  I will take your word for it, as I have no knowledge ( nor do I care to) of how the Hudson situation played out.

I was under the impression that Fickell was responding to Harbaugh, but that could be wrong too.

But this topic started with AC saying Fickell asked Harbaugh to lie.  Not buying that at all.  Perhaps Fickell IS clueless about how the transfer process works, I don’t know. But I have an extremely high level of confidence that he was not asked to lie, and frankly I don’t know why that was posted here.  AC tends to see his coach as some kind of hero, a view not shared by too many I would wager, outside the UM fan base.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #395 on: August 18, 2019, 04:43:38 PM »
Man we need the season to get here. This "story" has less than an atom of deserved controversy.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #396 on: August 18, 2019, 04:44:32 PM »
In the spirit of football starting:

We give him such a hard time but it's probably not deserved:


https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1161928770766458885

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #397 on: August 18, 2019, 04:46:51 PM »
Also fitting: 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #398 on: August 18, 2019, 04:48:22 PM »
Michigan has several kinds of good receivers. Having one that excels in traffic can be of use:


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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #399 on: August 18, 2019, 06:12:42 PM »
Now we’re talkin!

I am excited to see this group.  Urban had it right: UM has at least 3 NFL WRs.   And trying to cover all three will be ridiculously hard.  I look forward to seeing this group, save that one Saturday when they will make me fake pulling my hair out ( don’t have all that much left lol)
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #400 on: August 18, 2019, 07:15:22 PM »
The top 3 WRs at Michigan and the top 3 at OSU this year are as good as all the other teams in the conference (combined) have assembled in the last few years (combined). 

[to preempt blowback, let me emphasize that I'm not claiming the other schools haven't had high level WRs, just that the concentration of them at M and OSU right now is rare]

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #401 on: August 18, 2019, 08:51:36 PM »
The thing is Black is the one who blasts out of the gate,if he doesn't get hurt Patterson will have absolutely no excuses.I could throw lawn jarts to these guys and they'd come down with it
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #402 on: August 18, 2019, 08:58:59 PM »
I thought Patterson was great last year, and that was not only in a new offense but also the only "wrong fit" offense he's ever been in. Now he's back in the same RPO-heavy, no huddle offense he's been playing since high school (again, sans 2018 at Michigan). You're right. He should do well by national rank. I think he wil.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #403 on: August 18, 2019, 09:05:29 PM »
(...) however if he does have that kind of year, he'll have a lot more to thank than just the WR room, and maybe Ed Warriner is atop that list.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #404 on: August 18, 2019, 10:54:03 PM »
The thing is Black is the one who blasts out of the gate,if he doesn't get hurt Patterson will have absolutely no excuses.I could throw lawn jarts to these guys and they'd come down with it
this is what has me salivating at the mouth. As good as DPJ and Nico looked last year, Tarik Black is a flat out better receiver than both of those guys. He's had some really crappy luck with injuries. If he can just stay healthy- look out.

Nico and DPJ both looked great as true sophs last year playing in a very restrictive offense for WR's and with a new QB that was learning a new offensive system on the fly that was completely foreign to him. Shea Patterson has been playing in the shotgun and running spread since he was in 7th grade. He comes to Michigan and tries to learn a completely different offense and way of playing QB in an off-season. He had struggles at times, but he had flashes of that 5 STARZ talent at times at well.

Goodbye Pep Hamilton. Enter: JOSH GATTIS. The style of offense that Gattis is trying to implement is tailor made for Shea Patterson's skill set. The change SHOULD help Patterson flourish and that offense and those WR's to really take off. I think it'll really all come down to health and to how Harbaugh handles this transition. He needs to be patient with it and just back off and give up the keys to the Ferrari to Gattis. That's the biggest question mark for me. I just don't know if Harbaugh's ego will let him really give up total control. I'm scared to death that there is going to be times in tight moments in big games where Harbaugh just goes full Harbaugh and turns into the autistic weirdo we all know he is and interjects and starts overruling Gattis and calling plays that are just dumb as shit and make no sense. I am terrified of that actually.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #405 on: August 19, 2019, 01:58:59 AM »
I don't understand that fear. If the reports are correct that the offense is already transformed -- no longer beholden to full clock huddling, capable of fast snaps, erasure of the fullback, emphasized RPO game, and at least the mere attempt to have pass and rush plays be integrated to the normal extent that they look like one another in terms of alignment presnap ... if all of that's true, then we already have what we want.

That'll mean we've spent an entire offseason building a *structurally* different offense. It's not really possible (let alone smart) for an entire structure to be undone in the confines of a single game ... or even during the season. Harbaugh gave up the structure. It'd already be over.

You should stop thinking that Harbaugh'd even *consider* taking it back midseason. What examples are there of a coach ever doing something similar?


 

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