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Topic: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1582 on: March 03, 2020, 04:20:06 PM »
With just two games remaining I can usually do a look-ahead that covers each team's best-case and worst-case scenarios.  This year, with the teams so bunched up that is prohibitively complicated so what I will do instead is a projection for each team's finish but with the assumption that all games not involving the team in question go as projected by the tiers:

23-6/13-5 Maryland:  Their last two games are @RU and vM and we project them to win both.  If they do, they will be outright B1G Champs (regardless of what happens elsewhere).  If they go 1-1 instead we project that they will win the B1G outright anyway.  It lose their last two games they will finish 26-8/13-7 and we project that to be a five-way tie with PSU, IL, MSU, and UW for 1st through 5th place.  

20-9/12-6 Michigan State:  Their last two games are @PSU and vstOSU.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish in a four-way tie for 2nd-5th with PSU, IL, and UW.  They end up with the #4 seed in that scenario.  If they go 2-0 instead we project that they would finish alone in 2nd place.  If they lose their last two they will finish 20-11/12-8 and we project that to be tied with Iowa for 5th/6th.  

20-9/12-6 Illinois:  Their last two games are @tOSU and vs IA.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish in a four-way tie for 2nd-5th with PSU, MSU, and UW.  They end up with the #5 seed in that scenario.  If they go 2-0 instead we project that they would finish alone in 2nd place.  If they lose their last two they will finish 20-11/12-8 and we project that to be alone in 6th.  

19-10/12-6 Wisconsin:  Their last two games are vNU and @IU.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish in a four-way tie for 2nd-4th with MSU, IL, and PSU.  They end up with the #2 seed in that scenario.  If they go 2-0 instead we project that they would finish alone in 2nd place.  If they lose their last two they will finish 19-12/12-8 and we project that to be tied with Iowa for 5th/6th.  

21-8/11-7 Penn State:  Their last two games are vMSU and @NU and we project them to win both.  If they do, we project them to finish in a four-way tie for 2nd-5th with IL, MSU, and UW.  They end up with the #3 seed in that scenario.  If they go 1-1 instead we project that they would finish tied with Iowa for 5th/6th.  If they lose their last two they will finish 21-10/11-9 and we project that to be tied with Ohio State for 6th/7th.  PSU would win that tie.  

20-9/11-7 Iowa:  Their last two games are vPU and @IL and we project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish alone in sixth place.  If they go 2-0 instead, they would simply replace Illinois in the four-way tie for 2nd-5th.  If they lose their last two they will finish 20-11/11-9 and we project that to be tied with Ohio State for 6th/7th.  Iowa would win that tie.  

20-9/10-8 Ohio State:  Their last two games are vIL and @MSU.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish alone in seventh place.  If they go 2-0 instead we project that they would finish tied with Iowa for 6th/7th but Ohio State would lose that tie and get the #7 seed anyway.  If they lose their last two they will finish 20-11/10-10 and we project that to be tied with IU and M for 7th/8th/9th but Ohio State would win that tie and get the #7 seed anyway.  

18-11/9-9 Michigan:  Their last two games are vUNL and @UMD.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish tied with IU for 8th/9th.  Michigan wins that tie and would get the #8 seed.  If they go 2-0 instead we project that they would finish tied with Ohio State for 7th/8th but Michigan would lose that tie and get the #8 seed anyway.  If they lose their last two they will finish 18-13/9-11 and we project that to be tied with RU and PU for 9th/10th/11th.  Michigan would win that tie and end up in the 8/9 game anyway.  

18-11/9-9 Rutgers:  Their last two games are vUMD and @PU.  We project them to lose both.  If they do, we project them to finish tied with Purdue for 10th/11th.  Rutgers would win that tie and get the #10 seed.  If they go 1-1 instead we project that they would finish tied with IU and M for 8th/9th/10th.  If they go 2-0 instead, we project that they would finish tied with Ohio State for 7th/8th.  Rutgers would lose that tie and get the #8 seed.  

18-11/8-10 Indiana:  Their last two games are vMN and vUW.  We project them to win both.  If they do, we project them to finish tied with M for 8th/9th.  Indiana would lose that tie (which only determines jersey color in the 8/9 game) and get the #9 seed.  If they go 1-1 instead it depends on whether the loss is to MN or UW.  If they go 1-1 with a loss to UW they would finish 9-11 and we project that to be tied with RU and PU for 9th/10th/11th.  If they go 1-1 with a loss to MN they would finish 9-11 and we project that to be tied with RU, PU, and MN for 9th/10th/11th/12th.  If they lose their last two they will finish 18-13/8-12 and we project that to be alone in 12th place.  

15-14/8-10 Purdue:  Their last two games are @IA and vsRU.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish tied with RU for 10th/11th.  Purdue loses that tie and gets the #11 seed and a game next Wednesday in Indianapolis.  If they go 2-0 instead, we project that they would finish tied with IU and M for 8th/9th/10th.  If they lose their last two they will finish 15-16/8-12 and we project that to be tied with MN for 11th/12th.  

13-15/7-11 Minnesota:  Their last two games are @IU and vUNL.  We project them to win the home game and lose the road game.  If they do, we project them to finish alone in 12th place.  If they go 2-0 instead, we project that they would finish tied with IU, RU, and PU for 9th/10th/11th/12th.  If they lose their last two they will finish 13-17/7-13 and we project that that would be alone in 12th place.  

7-21/2-16 Northwestern:  Their last two games are @M and @MN and we project them to lose both.  Nonetheless, we project them to finish tied with Nebraska for 13th/14th and win that tie to get the #13 seed.  If they were to go 1-1 or 2-0 we project that they would finish alone in 13th place.  

7-22/2-16 Nebraska:  Their last two games are @UW and vPSU and we project them to lose both.  If they do, we project that they will finish tied with Northwestern for 13th/14th.  They would lose that tie and get the #14 seed.  If they go 1-1 or 2-0 we project that they would finish alone in 13th place.  

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1583 on: March 03, 2020, 06:06:55 PM »
No 16 loss team has ever made it correct?
That is true...

But for Purdue to get to 18 wins (or 19 including NU/UNL), that means two additional Q1 wins at minimum. @Iowa would be Q1. Neutral against anyone on Thursday in Indy would be Q1. Friday in Indy would be Q1. 

Purdue wouldn't finish with 16 losses due to being a bad team. That would be due to being in a ridiculously difficult conference and playing a really solid OOC slate as well. 

It's true no 16-loss team has made it. But we haven't seen a team with 20 conference games in the toughest conference in the country, and a very difficult non-con slate, with an 18-16 or 19-16 record.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1584 on: March 03, 2020, 07:30:45 PM »
Best 3pt percentage defense in the conference, and PSU is shooting 70% from deep

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1585 on: March 03, 2020, 07:53:35 PM »
Best 3pt percentage defense in the conference, and PSU is shooting 70% from deep
And PSU was 9-39 over their past three games.  Took them 13 shots to hit 9 tonight.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1586 on: March 03, 2020, 08:46:29 PM »
My original hypothesis was correct. 

Maryland just sucks. 

They can't shoot, they can't make layups, they can't rebound... they just suck. How they are ranked is absolutely amazing.

Every F'ing year, we play cupcakes, win, get a little confidence, win a few we shouldn't, then we lose, and disintegrate towards the end, while other teams GET BETTER.

It's COACHING.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1587 on: March 03, 2020, 08:52:01 PM »
I wonder how often BOTH teams have blown double digit leads in the same game?

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1588 on: March 03, 2020, 09:05:32 PM »
More than three minutes left, only down 14, Turgeon substitutes all starters.

Throws in the towel. 

Did the same thing against Mich St last year, putting Fernando and Cowan on the bench with plenty of time .

He's a loser. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1589 on: March 03, 2020, 09:07:55 PM »
I think that probably moves Rutgers to a tourney lock then.  So now we wait and see on Indiana, Purdue, and Minnesota.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1590 on: March 03, 2020, 09:16:21 PM »
I think that probably moves Rutgers to a tourney lock then.  So now we wait and see on Indiana, Purdue, and Minnesota.
1 win outside of Piscataway? 

How do you figure ? 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1591 on: March 03, 2020, 09:17:53 PM »
More than three minutes left, only down 14, Turgeon substitutes all starters.

Throws in the towel.

Did the same thing against Mich St last year, putting Fernando and Cowan on the bench with plenty of time .

He's a loser.
Smith, Fernando and Cowan were all in the game last year in the final minute.

I agree Turgeon is just a recruiter, not an in game coach at all, but that part isn't true.  Maybe a different game?

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1592 on: March 03, 2020, 09:18:57 PM »
1 win outside of Piscataway?

How do you figure ?
Certainly interesting.  Their resume looks good, but I saw someone on Twitter say no team has ever gotten an at large bid with fewer than 3 road/neutral wins.  As you said, Rutgers has 1.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1593 on: March 03, 2020, 09:20:13 PM »
And PSU was 9-39 over their past three games.  Took them 13 shots to hit 9 tonight.
And...1-17 after that

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1594 on: March 03, 2020, 09:20:56 PM »
Big win for Rutgers to help solidify a bid

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1595 on: March 03, 2020, 09:23:49 PM »
Smith, Fernando and Cowan were all in the game last year in the final minute.

I agree Turgeon is just a recruiter, not an in game coach at all, but that part isn't true.  Maybe a different game?
Last year AT Michigan State.

I'll look again. Maybe it was the year before AT Michigan State. 

 

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