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Mdot21

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #490 on: December 01, 2017, 02:27:07 PM »
Good for him - now the question is, can he build a consistent Top 25 defense up?  That, and as long as he keeps flirting with Top 5 recruiting classes year-in and year-out, it's probably more of a matter of when and not if Oregon wins a natty.
recruiting is all about what you have to sell and who is selling it.

Taggart is a young, energetic coach. Also he's black. Most of the players are black. Just facts. They relate to him very well. Oregon is a great program with top notch facilities and stadium and fan support. They are in a P5 conference and one of the top programs in that conference. As long as they win consistently and are in the top 25 winning at least 8-9 and having years where they are 10-11+ wins and in the playoff hunt- he'll be recruiting top classes year in year out.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #491 on: December 01, 2017, 02:50:50 PM »
Fat Phil named interim AD at Tennessee. Does this mean he's just going to hire one of his former players in Tee Martin?

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #492 on: December 01, 2017, 02:52:45 PM »
would be an insane contract, but I've read that in the state of Texas it's nearly impossible for state employees to sue state institutions.

They can basically throw around huge dollar amounts and cancel a contract without having to pay a dime. If Fisher isn't up to snuff, they can just fire him and he'll never collect a dime. Like that huge buyout that Sumlin is suppose to have coming to him- A&M will just not pay him and then he'll try and sue them and get nowhere.
It's not impossible... but it's difficult... and damages are capped by state law.

A&M isn't going to refuse to pay Sumlin out.  We are on the hook to pay him $10.4 million by contract.... he will be paid.  It's the right thing to do, and even if A&M didn't want to pay up we will because we'd never get another coach worth a crap to come to A&M again if we didn't.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #493 on: December 01, 2017, 02:53:10 PM »
I expect Charlie Strong's name to come up at some point here.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #494 on: December 01, 2017, 02:55:40 PM »
Saw one report, 10 years, $75 million for Jimbo?
damn thats a lot

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #495 on: December 01, 2017, 03:01:49 PM »
bama dc pruitt was getting some love for hc positions and has ties to fsu. wonder if he's an option there.

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« Reply #496 on: December 01, 2017, 03:02:45 PM »
Fat Phil named interim AD at Tennessee. Does this mean he's just going to hire one of his former players in Tee Martin?
that's not the name i hear.. i'm hearing it's one of three, and has been.  interesting times on the hill. 

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« Reply #497 on: December 01, 2017, 03:04:31 PM »
recruiting is all about what you have to sell and who is selling it.

Taggart is a young, energetic coach. Also he's black. Most of the players are black. Just facts. They relate to him very well. Oregon is a great program with top notch facilities and stadium and fan support. They are in a P5 conference and one of the top programs in that conference. As long as they win consistently and are in the top 25 winning at least 8-9 and having years where they are 10-11+ wins and in the playoff hunt- he'll be recruiting top classes year in year out.
Exactly.  It's easier for a black coach that's not in the South or East Coast to recruit there than it is for a non-black coach.  It's even easier if  he has roots there.

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« Reply #498 on: December 01, 2017, 04:22:14 PM »
per former ESPN college football reporter Brett McMurphy, Tennessee AD tried to hire Mike Leach, but university officials wouldn't sign off on it. Might've had something to do with Leach trying to sue his former employer and complaining on twitter how he wasn't allowed to sue them because of Texas state laws.

Leach would've been a really solid hire considering the side show circus freak this thing has been.
Are the university officials the academic types that just don't want to have a football program at all? Because I'm having a lot of trouble trying to understand how much of a charlie foxtrot this has been, and how they've let it happen.
It's clear to basically anyone who followed the situation that what happened to Leach was a hatchet job. And that a good portion of the lawsuit was him trying to recover money that he was contractually owed for his coaching duties PRIOR to getting fired
It almost seems like the administration is basically saying "well, we're shady af and we know it, so we know that when we eventually screw him over, we don't want him suing us." Because any fair reading of the situation doesn't make Leach look overly litigious, it makes him look like someone who was actually wronged and refused to take it lying down lest it ruin his reputation as an admission of guilt.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #499 on: December 01, 2017, 04:26:14 PM »
Are the university officials the academic types that just don't want to have a football program at all? Because I'm having a lot of trouble trying to understand how much of a charlie foxtrot this has been, and how they've let it happen.
It's clear to basically anyone who followed the situation that what happened to Leach was a hatchet job. And that a good portion of the lawsuit was him trying to recover money that he was contractually owed for his coaching duties PRIOR to getting fired.
It almost seems like the administration is basically saying "well, we're shady af and we know it, so we know that when we eventually screw him over, we don't want him suing us." Because any fair reading of the situation doesn't make Leach look overly litigious, it makes him look like someone who was actually wronged and refused to take it lying down lest it ruin his reputation as an admission of guilt.
hey, I'm with you Tennessee is beyond a dumpster fire. I've never seen anything like it.
Schiano would've been a good hire. Leach would've been a great hire.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #500 on: December 01, 2017, 04:29:26 PM »
I should say that I'm the type that doesn't like "slimy" coaches. For as horrible as Hazell was as a coach, I honestly believe that he was an honorable man. He represented my alma mater well off the field, and while he didn't have results on the field, he also wasn't a Brian Kelly type turning purple as he blew his top at his players. 

Back in 2011, I wanted Purdue to move on from Danny Hope and get Mike Leach. I absolutely would not have wanted to touch Leach with a 10 foot pole if I believed that any of the allegations of his treatment of Adam James were true. I absolutely would not want a coach who I honestly believed mistreated/abused his players. 

I'd rather my team lose on the field on Saturdays than win without honor. And I wanted Leach, because out of all the mess that happened at Texas Tech, he came out of it looking like the only person in the fracas with any shred of credibility. 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #501 on: December 01, 2017, 04:32:11 PM »
Saw one report, 10 years, $75 million for Jimbo?
Just heard that,the wheels have fallen of the cart in our culture.I almost don't want to watch anymore perhaps I'm part of the problem - enabler I am.The day is not far off when I'll just be cupping my hand to my ear listening to a Philco Radio.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #502 on: December 01, 2017, 04:35:32 PM »
Leach ain't off the hook, yet.. neither is Jeff Fisher... but the one i think they have?  he'd be magic and long term. 

this was a hatchet job that viewed the athletic department as collateral damage. 

i've said it no less than five times- this is the highest drama ever up there, and if not for the meddling of an interloper (who is loaded) it would be totally avoided... even Butch may still have a job there if it had been handled right way back when... i have to ask myself how much of this was prompted by his firing (opportunity) or if his firing was part of it (going back to at least '12)?  

you guys are having a hay day, i get it.... but... this has been brewing at UT for a long time.  there is quite a bit of corruption and nepotism going on there, and all the way back to Hamilton and through Hart's reign.  it starts with them, but most of it goes on above them and they get to catch the flack.   

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #503 on: December 01, 2017, 04:40:22 PM »
you guys are having a hay day, i get it.   
Maybe some. I feel bad for the true fans (you being one).
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