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Mdot21

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #476 on: December 01, 2017, 01:46:26 PM »
A&M handled this to near perfection.  Started talks with Fisher back in September (allegedly).... worked the process behind the scenes throughout the season... Made the decision to let Sumlin go at the right time and has navigated this change well.  Now... Fisher needs to deliver.

Tennessee still on the clock.
have to hand it to A&M. They handled it like it's supposed to be. There wasn't leaks every other hour of every day of coach so and so being interviewed and then turning the job down. Waited til the end of the season to fire Sumlin, didn't go all half-cocked and fire him mid-season like Tennessee did Butch.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #477 on: December 01, 2017, 01:48:04 PM »
Most importantly... A&M did its legwork and started the process awhile ago.  Didn't let Sumlin go until they knew they had his replacement in hand.

That's how you do it.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #478 on: December 01, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »
For stability purposes they may just want to slap the interim label on one of his coordinators, and if he ends up sucking, go all-out next offseason.  My gut says Willie Taggart stays put in Eugene, for now at least.
hope Willie stays there. would be a shame to see him bolt after 1 year. He turned it around to 7-5 in year 1 and might've done a little better if his starting QB didn't get injured and miss 4 or 5 games. His first true recruiting class of his own is ranked #6 in the nation right now. Would be a shame to just up and leave after one year. You can definitely win a national title at Oregon. Chip Kelly came damn close 3-4 times.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #479 on: December 01, 2017, 02:00:11 PM »
I'm so glad Florida's coaching search was boring by comparison.  Yes, the immediacy of McElwain's being let go was odd, but once the season came to a close and Kelly went to UCLA (shrug, weird, okay), we got our next guy.  

What is taking so long for Frost to go to Nebraska?  That's super weird, imo.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #480 on: December 01, 2017, 02:01:06 PM »
hope Willie stays there. would be a shame to see him bolt after 1 year. He turned it around to 7-5 in year 1 and might've done a little better if his starting QB didn't get injured and miss 4 or 5 games. His first true recruiting class of his own is ranked #6 in the nation right now. Would be a shame to just up and leave after one year. You can definitely win a national title at Oregon. Chip Kelly came damn close 3-4 times.
Oregon certainly has the resources to put together a monster program.  Willie seems to have the program back on track.
Oregon's problem - believe it or not - is recruiting.  They do get respectable talent, but at the end of the day, they don't have the depth of an Alabama or an OSU.  Their starters are every bit as good, especially on offense, but they don't necessarily have extra 4/5 star recruits waiting their turn to shine.  Even their best teams aren't quite up-to-snuff defensively.  They almost beat Auburn in 2010 because AU was 80% offense that year too.

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« Reply #481 on: December 01, 2017, 02:04:14 PM »
I'm so glad Florida's coaching search was boring by comparison.  Yes, the immediacy of McElwain's being let go was odd, but once the season came to a close and Kelly went to UCLA (shrug, weird, okay), we got our next guy.  

What is taking so long for Frost to go to Nebraska?  That's super weird, imo.
Frost has got a big game left that I think he really wants to coach and doesn't want distractions for his players. They win against top #20 ranked Memphis team tomorrow he just capped off a perfect 12-0 season and wins the AAC title.

I'd say it's more refreshing that a guy wants to close out the season and win his team a conference championship than it is weird. JMO.

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« Reply #482 on: December 01, 2017, 02:06:51 PM »
Per an ASU beat reporter, "[t]here's a belief that players will know/identify with Herm Edwards because of his TV role with ESPN. After talking with ASU players today, I'm not sure that's the case."

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #483 on: December 01, 2017, 02:07:22 PM »
Saw one report, 10 years, $75 million for Jimbo?

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #484 on: December 01, 2017, 02:08:26 PM »
Oregon certainly has the resources to put together a monster program.  Willie seems to have the program back on track.
Oregon's problem - believe it or not - is recruiting.  They do get respectable talent, but at the end of the day, they don't have the depth of an Alabama or an OSU.  Their starters are every bit as good, especially on offense, but they don't necessarily have extra 4/5 star recruits waiting their turn to shine.  Even their best teams aren't quite up-to-snuff defensively.  They almost beat Auburn in 2010 because AU was 80% offense that year too.
Willie is recruiting like gang busters this year. His ties to Florida and the south are paying off, because he's got a bunch of kids from TX and FL in his class this year.

His class sits at #6 in the nation and #1 in the Pac12. He's got 25 commits and 14 of them are rated 4*'s. And he's still in it for a couple 5*'s and 4*'s and I'd bet he lands some of them. Even in Kelly's best years he wasn't recruiting as well as Taggart has been.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #485 on: December 01, 2017, 02:10:10 PM »
I'm so glad Florida's coaching search was boring by comparison.  Yes, the immediacy of McElwain's being let go was odd, but once the season came to a close and Kelly went to UCLA (shrug, weird, okay), we got our next guy.  

What is taking so long for Frost to go to Nebraska?  That's super weird, imo.
Frost has a championship game to play still. Look for an announcement on Monday.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #486 on: December 01, 2017, 02:12:58 PM »
Per an ASU beat reporter, "[t]here's a belief that players will know/identify with Herm Edwards because of his TV role with ESPN. After talking with ASU players today, I'm not sure that's the case."
Lmao. What did they think? Those kids are 18-22 years old. Herm Edwards hasn't coached a football game last since they were 8-12 years old. And it's not like he's a legendary coach that their fathers/brothers/uncles/HS coaches would tell them about. He had a .417% winning percentage in the NFL. They'd have no reason in hell to have any clue who he is.

Not like they were hiring a red hot star NFL coach who had also coached one of the biggest star players in the NFL in college (Luck) like Michigan lucked out with in Harbaugh.

That hire is absolute insanity. Makes no sense.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #487 on: December 01, 2017, 02:15:20 PM »
Saw one report, 10 years, $75 million for Jimbo?
would be an insane contract, but I've read that in the state of Texas it's nearly impossible for state employees to sue state institutions.

They can basically throw around huge dollar amounts and cancel a contract without having to pay a dime. If Fisher isn't up to snuff, they can just fire him and he'll never collect a dime. Like that huge buyout that Sumlin is suppose to have coming to him- A&M will just not pay him and then he'll try and sue them and get nowhere.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #488 on: December 01, 2017, 02:24:10 PM »
per former ESPN college football reporter Brett McMurphy, Tennessee AD tried to hire Mike Leach, but university officials wouldn't sign off on it. Might've had something to do with Leach trying to sue his former employer and complaining on twitter how he wasn't allowed to sue them because of Texas state laws.

Leach would've been a really solid hire considering the side show circus freak this thing has been.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #489 on: December 01, 2017, 02:24:18 PM »
Willie is recruiting like gang busters this year. His ties to Florida and the south are paying off, because he's got a bunch of kids from TX and FL in his class this year.

His class sits at #6 in the nation and #1 in the Pac12. He's got 25 commits and 14 of them are rated 4*'s. And he's still in it for a couple 5*'s and 4*'s and I'd bet he lands some of them. Even in Kelly's best years he wasn't recruiting as well as Taggart has been.
Good for him - now the question is, can he build a consistent Top 25 defense up?  That, and as long as he keeps flirting with Top 5 recruiting classes year-in and year-out, it's probably more of a matter of when and not if Oregon wins a natty.

 

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