2018 Coaching Changes thread

[fezzador]

as far as UT reports go, this one is the funniest/strangest:  It's being reported Jimmy Haslam (the seed of UT issues; owner of the Browns; owner of Flying J/Pilot; biggest single booster of UT athletics; self appointed overseer of all things) has been calling state representatives (the ones that ignorantly commented about Schiano) telling them "YOU don't choose who coaches at UT- I DO!!!".  

this UT thing is a LOT more than just an incompetent AD and Chancellor, even though that's all that's being covered.  The power play going on up there is hysterical- and there isn't an end in sight.

UT should tell that incompetent NFL owner where to stick it.

[Drew4UTk]

UT should tell that incompetent NFL owner where to stick it.

... but then they lose the promised 1/2 burden for the planned renovations.  
the man 'bought' himself a seat at the table.  he has both davenport and currie on a leash.  
he's supremely competent, as you know- just look at what he's accomplished at the storied Browns.  

[fezzador]

UT would be just fine without the Haslams' money.  In fact, it'd probably be addition by subtraction.

They should take a firm stance, say "you can donate to us all you want, but UT decides when and where it will be allocated.  If you don't like it, then don't bother donating".

[Mdot21]

no deal yet with Leach and Tennessee. The twitters are saying the Tennessee AD Currie has been fired.

Leach would be a good hire. If he get a great defensive co-ordinator to come with him. Offensive guru, but he might be a better fit at under-dog schools like Tech and Wazzu than he would be at a helmet like Tennessee. He's pretty out there. I think he's great, but there's no doubt he's a personality. And he did get fired in scandal at Texas Tech, and he did try to sue the school and he's publicly opined about how it's BS he can't sue Texas Tech because of Texas state laws. Fans might not care about the firing scandal or the lawsuits, but the people hiring him definitely are. Might hurt his candidacy at helmet schools who feel like his personality isn't worth the risk.

[847badgerfan]

I'm more generous than most, when doling out Helmet status.

Notre Dame
Big XII: Texas, Oklahoma
ACC: Florida State, Miami
SEC: (E) Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, (W) Auburn, Bama, LSU
Big Ten: OSU, PSU, Nebraska, Ttun

Just outside: aTm, Clemson, UCLA

You don't have to do it, but I'd like to hear the reasoning behind the ones in bold, and in particular the ones in red. I'd also like to know where Southern California fits in, or doesn't, in your opinion.

[Mdot21]

If Nebraska's not a helmet, then everyone might as well just wear leather helmets.  

it's definitely a helmet, but it's slipping, in desperate need of new blood. 2 of the last 3 hires were horrendous. Bill Callahan and Mike Riley? Yuck. Pelini wasn't great by any stretch but he was solid and was superior to those other 2 guys. Scott Frost can come in and bring them that new blood. Frost would be an ace recruiter there. He played there, he knows it. He could really sell it.

[fezzador]

You don't have to do it, but I'd like to hear the reasoning behind the ones in bold, and in particular the ones in red. I'd also like to know where Southern California fits in, or doesn't, in your opinion.

Along with Michigan, OSU, and Notre Dame, USC completes the Mount Rushmore of helmets.  I believe Stewart M. of SI even said as such - those four cannot be touched.  Even schools like Alabama and Texas are subject to demotion.

[Drew4UTk]

yup... currie has been fired. what a shit show. 

[utee94]

I can't recall a worse coaching search since I've been paying attention.

Tennessee needs to fire the AD and let Fulmer lead this search. At the very least he has credibility. The AD right now has none, zero, zilch, nada.

And as if on cue, reports that Tennessee has fired the AD.  No insights though, on whether or not Fulmer has been tasked with taking over the search.


Man I was really hoping they'd bring in Leach.  I think he'd do very well there, and it would be highly entertaining to watch how he interacted with the rest of the SEC coaches/administrations.  

[Mdot21]

Along with Michigan, OSU, and Notre Dame, USC completes the Mount Rushmore of helmets.  I believe Stewart M. of SI even said as such - those four cannot be touched.  Even schools like Alabama and Texas are subject to demotion.

I'd definitely put Alabama up there with M, OSU, ND, and USC. Those 5 are the untouchables imo.

[Drew4UTk]

And as if on cue, reports that Tennessee has fired the AD.  No insights though, on whether or not Fulmer has been tasked with taking over the search.


Man I was really hoping they'd bring in Leach.  I think he'd do very well there, and it would be highly entertaining to watch how he interacted with the rest of the SEC coaches/administrations.  

and this will be opportunity to see if my paragraph function works... 
Currie was set up to fail in this debacle- Fulmer IS the interim AD, and supposedly has a very big name on stand by for announcement.  
the struggles in that office and all the intrigue will be available once the dust settles, but fellas- this is a saga worthy of the silver screen... 

[fezzador]

I'd definitely put Alabama up there with M, OSU, ND, and USC. Those 5 are the untouchables imo.

Now that Saban is tearing it up in T-Town, a strong case can be made for Bama.

However, before 2007, they were one more bad hire away from being Tennessee.

[Mdot21]

Now that Saban is tearing it up in T-Town, a strong case can be made for Bama.

However, before 2007, they were one more bad hire away from being Tennessee.

Maybe. But they had way more tradition/success to begin with than Tennessee. Way more iconic of a program, even before they landed Saban. Saban tearing it up just adds to the already tremendous legacy of that program. To me those 5 programs are just iconic, pretty synonymous with college football. When you think of college football- you think of those programs.

[PSUinNC]

it's definitely a helmet, but it's slipping, in desperate need of new blood. 2 of the last 3 hires were horrendous. Bill Callahan and Mike Riley? Yuck. Pelini wasn't great by any stretch but he was solid and was superior to those other 2 guys. Scott Frost can come in and bring them that new blood. Frost would be an ace recruiter there. He played there, he knows it. He could really sell it.

No doubt.  Nebraska will always be a helmet to me, tho, but I agree with what you're saying.