2018 Coaching Changes thread

[betarhoalphadelta]

i said this to a friend a few days ago. tenn fans and alum and most importantly the ad need to start being real. they need to put themselves in similar shoes as bama in 03. you need someone to come in and clean up the mess. bring respect back and make you competitive. after that, reevaluate. doesn't have to be the best coach and certainly not a homerun hire. bama was reeling cause of sanctions, ut from self inflicted wounds. both needed stability and respect restored.

Has UT reached out to Les Miles?
While I said I didn't want him at Purdue, I think he can bring credibility and stability to Knoxville. And Tennessee uses real grass on the field, so Les might be amenable to it.

[Mdot21]

Tennessee should get Miles. He'd be the perfect guy to bring stability and rebuild the foundation. I don't think he'd win titles or anything, but he could make it competitive and respectable again. For sure. After he cleans up the mess, then you can re-evaluate after. They'd be pretty wise to get Les and bring along a young up and coming OC to be Head Coach in Waiting for Les to groom. Tee Martin....maybe?

[Mdot21]

Tennessee, Nebraska, and Penn State are still helmets imo. Blue bloods? No, but there's a difference between helmet and blue blood. Only about 7 blue bloods. USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Texas. Those teams are always get the breaks and more props than they deserve at times no matter the record because of the tradition, history, and size of the fan base.

Then there's probably another maybe 10 teams that are helmets. Nebraska, LSU, Penn State, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Florida State, Miami, Auburn, and maybe Clemson now.

[Brutus Buckeye]

I'm more generous than most, when doling out Helmet status.

Notre Dame
Big XII: Texas, Oklahoma
ACC: Florida State, Miami
SEC: (E) Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, (W) Auburn, Bama, LSU
Big Ten: OSU, PSU, Nebraska, Ttun

Just outside: aTm, Clemson, UCLA 

[ELA]

2 things:
1 - tenn was, and still is, the next man out imo for helmet (along with neb and psu, i won't order them). those 3 were the only ones capable of firmly solidifying helmet status in the next 10-20 years. psu is the only one making strides to do that.
2 - can't blame kiffin or tenn for that move. each coach has a top tier school (or most) even among helmets. usc was that for kiffin. doesn't mean that school is better or whatever, just that for that coach it is "home". rarely does it come that a coach has that opportunity, but when it does, more often than not, the coach will take it. even rarer is when that opportunity comes after that coach gets a premier job. kiffin might be the only example of that.
i said this to a friend a few days ago. tenn fans and alum and most importantly the ad need to start being real. they need to put themselves in similar shoes as bama in 03. you need someone to come in and clean up the mess. bring respect back and make you competitive. after that, reevaluate. doesn't have to be the best coach and certainly not a homerun hire. bama was reeling cause of sanctions, ut from self inflicted wounds. both needed stability and respect restored.

Greg McElroy is awful, but he made a similar point this morning and I totally agree.  Alabama needed Shula, so they could position themselves to get Saban.  Tennessee is looking for their Saban, and they need their Shula, a guy who understands the school, unites the fan base, and puts them in a position to make their home run hire.  Not everyone lucks into having a alum just happen to be the best coach on the market in a year they are looking like UM with Harbaugh or Nebraska with Frost.  Without the availability of those two, I'm not convinced those two searches look much different than the Tennessee search.  A historically great program, way down, but with bloated expectations is just about the worst situation to walk into for the type of coach that a type of program like that would target as a Plan A

[DevilFroggy]

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/zeise-is-right/2017/11/30/Todd-Graham-firing-arizona-state-herm-edwards/stories/201711300159

Decent read about Tood Graham.  Not sure what the ASU folks thinking.  

See Catsby's post above, he details pretty much what I been hearing. But like the article you linked says, our AD is indeed delusional.

[Mdot21]

sounds an awful lot like Frost to Nebraska is pretty much done. Here's an article with some excerpts from an interview that Frost did with sports radio in Orlando area.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-sp-scott-frost-ucf-nebraska-cornhuskers-20171130-story.html

[FearlessF]

hopefully, Frost can get the Huskers back into the group of helmets

[Mdot21]

Nebraska already is a helmet IMO. 

[FearlessF]

I agree, but perception is reality.  Obviously some fans and not only young fans, think the Huskers have slipped too far.

only about 5-8 teams can compare with this list:

Nebraska Football Top 10
• Nebraska is 893-379-40 all-time, one of only 10 schools with 800 wins.

• The Cornhuskers are fifth all-time with their 893 victories.

• Nebraska has won five national titles (1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997).

• The Huskers have won 46 conference championships.

• Nebraska’s 53 all-time bowl appearances rank second in NCAA history.

• Three Huskers have won the Heisman Trophy (Rodgers, Rozier, Crouch).

• Nebraska’s 107 football Academic All-Americans lead the nation.

• The Huskers have 110 first-team All-Americans in school history.

• Nebraska football is the only team in any sport in NCAA history to total 100 athletic and academic All-Americans.

• Memorial Stadium has been sold out every game since Nov. 2, 1962, a streak of 360 consecutive sellouts.

[FearlessF]

but, I agree, Frost needs to win the west and then win the B1G to put the shine back on those White Helmets

[MrNubbz]

The Horror,that just doesn't work for me.It's just crazy talk - so stop it

[FearlessF]

you read between the lines?

beating the Badgers and regaining the BIG RED title

whipping Urban and the Bucks!!!

[MrNubbz]

Ya well i'm about to go 3-0 in my coaches predictions.You owe me some Bud Fat pal