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TyphonInc

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #350 on: November 29, 2017, 09:29:43 PM »
Sounds like Herm Edwards to ASU is a real thing that is actually happening.  

Edit: This might be the weirdest coaching transition I can remember.  I don't remember any ASU fans even seeming to want to get rid of Todd Graham, and now he's gone and they hire a guy who's been out of football for 9 years and has almost no college experience.
Went with a coach who has impeccable quality character traits. Not sure that turns into wins though, just ask Nebraska about Riley.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #351 on: November 29, 2017, 10:56:53 PM »
I'm connected to quite a few former players via social media and surprisingly most of them are positive regarding the Edwards hire, which is at least nice to see. IMO the only way he succeeds is if he surrounds himself with a staff that has a good mix of recruiting ability (CA especially) and player development (obviously this applies to most coaches but ESPECIALLY Herm in this case). 

I don't doubt he'll be able to motivate and rally the team, and his personality and NFL experience could probably help him close some recruits as well. Just hope he doesn't try to revert ASU to a vanilla NFL style offense (those are actually harder to recruit for if you aren't a traditional helmet, if you didn't already figure).
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #352 on: November 30, 2017, 07:04:10 AM »
Sounds like Jimbo Fisher and is getting real sour with FSU.  FSU looking at Willie Taggart, no one is recruiting, fans getting roughed up at a call in show.  I find it pretty weird - I don't see much allure to leaving FSU for A&M.  If he wanted to leave, why not go to LSU last year?

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #353 on: November 30, 2017, 08:26:03 AM »
No allure for A&M?  Lots of money, SEC, hungry fan base, Texas recruits...I'm guessing it happens.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #354 on: November 30, 2017, 08:48:32 AM »
they are losing more than a few players. I will be shocked if their offense doesn't take a major step back next year.
Well, considering you weren't even accurate on the players they are losing.....I guess I'll be happy when you're shocked.  

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #355 on: November 30, 2017, 09:00:35 AM »
No allure for A&M?  Lots of money, SEC, hungry fan base, Texas recruits...I'm guessing it happens.
Sounds like it might happen today.  Not even finishing the regular season might be a new low.  Not sure what the argument is against players playing in bowl games, and instead moving ahead to prep for their next job.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #356 on: November 30, 2017, 09:18:57 AM »
No allure for A&M?  Lots of money, SEC, hungry fan base, Texas recruits...I'm guessing it happens.
It's fine, but what advantage does it offer that he doesn't have at Florida State already?  If FSU opens up a lot of good coaches will give it a long look, I think a longer look than they'd give A&M.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #357 on: November 30, 2017, 09:39:58 AM »
It's fine, but what advantage does it offer that he doesn't have at Florida State already?  If FSU opens up a lot of good coaches will give it a long look, I think a longer look than they'd give A&M.
Well.... from what I understand Fisher has been pretty open about this. He's been asking for better facilities (A&M's are superior by all accounts) and better pay for his assistants (which A&M is obviously offering).... for starters. 
There seems to be this myth out there that if  you're a "helmet school" your resources are limitless... and if you're not a helmet, your resources pale in comparison.  Just ain't so.   Certainly not in this case.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #358 on: November 30, 2017, 10:23:24 AM »
@iowahawkblog: CONSUMER ALERT: If you receive an unfamiliar phone call from area code 865, do NOT answer! It could be the University of Tennessee trying to trick you into accepting a job as head football coach

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #359 on: November 30, 2017, 11:17:03 AM »
@iowahawkblog: CONSUMER ALERT: If you receive an unfamiliar phone call from area code 865, do NOT answer! It could be the University of Tennessee trying to trick you into accepting a job as head football coach
oh that's just cruel... 
how else are we going to find a new coach?  
i think Haslam, Davenport, and Currie are all looking through their contacts list right about now trying to locate Gruden... he's been missing from the conversation for a while, no? 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #360 on: November 30, 2017, 11:45:32 AM »
@iowahawkblog: CONSUMER ALERT: If you receive an unfamiliar phone call from area code 865, do NOT answer! It could be the University of Tennessee trying to trick you into accepting a job as head football coach
LMAO

I actually feel sorry for the fans. Not the idiots who were protesting and painting things on the rock about Schiano and trashing him online. The good dudes like Drew who just want to see their team win. There are probably more guys like that out there. They just aren't crazy- all you hear/see are the crazies. Doesn't mean the entire fan base is crazy. Whether he realizes it or not, Clay Travis really hurt Tennessee. If some sports radio wanna be shock jock in Tennessee with a twitter following can help incite a riot and slander you to the point where the AD/school chicken out and essentially hire then fire you- well who the hell would want that job? Other coaches see that shit show and want no part of it.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #361 on: November 30, 2017, 12:01:15 PM »
This has to be one of the weirdest offseason coaching scrums I can remember...

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #362 on: November 30, 2017, 12:03:41 PM »
Sounds like it might happen today.  Not even finishing the regular season might be a new low.  Not sure what the argument is against players playing in bowl games, and instead moving ahead to prep for their next job.
bingo. coaches do this all the time and leave for the next job to go recruit, and hardly a word ever gets said. Coaches who get paid MILLION AND MILLIONS of dollars and don't have to go put their bodies/lives out on the line.

Jake Butt was a 2nd round pick. MAYBE 3rd at worst. At worst. He potentially maybe even have had a shot at being a late 1st round pick if he had posted a good 40 at the combine, as a couple TE's went late towards the bottom of that draft. He shredded the same knee he had torn two years earlier in the bowl game and fell all the way to the first pick of the 5th round. That cost him more than he collected from his insurance policy- those policies are a BITCH for players to collect and NEVER pay out 100% of what they are suppose to. People talk about those insurance policies- what they fail to mention is that players hardly if ever actually get the full amount. After I saw that happen to a great kid like that, my thinking really changed.

I'm glad Peppers didn't play, stayed injury free and got drafted in the 1st round. Michigan barely lost the game to FSU. By 1 point. If Jake had been able to play that entire game and not get injured and had Peppers played, think they might've pulled it out? Never know, but I'd rather have had Jake sit like Peppers and Michigan lose that game badly than to win it. Those guys' future is more important than a meaningless bowl game. And it really was a meaningless game and just a consolation prize. They were playing for a trip to the B1G CCG and a spot in the playoff that season. That all ended when they didn't get the call to stop JT on 4th down in OT. Season was a failure after they didn't stop tOSU in OT and go play in the B1G CCG. Really nothing to play for after that IMO.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #363 on: November 30, 2017, 12:11:30 PM »
If I were UT, I'd give JMU's Mike Houston a call.  The guy led the Dukies to a FCS natty this past season. 

The sad thing is, JMU would probably blow UT's doors off if they played this weekend.

 

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