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MrNubbz

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #224 on: November 28, 2017, 06:12:26 PM »
Tennessee has a stadium that hold 106,000+. They've got tons of tradition. Lot of former and current NFL guys. Facilities. Play in the SEC.
I could definitely see them being "back". All it takes is the right hire.

They'll be able to recruit talent. If Butch Jones could, a real coach could.
Read recently fans talking about The Vols last Championship.Back in '98 Clemson was just another program.S.Car/N.Car/NCST also.19-20 yrs later Clemson is a perennial  top 5-10 program.The other 3 have gained enough traction that local talent can stay put.Tennessee use to recruit that area quite heavily and now that vine has appeared to dry up.Miss St has shaken the bogies and Gawja is back in the fray.Simply put it's a lot harder draw now for the Vols than it was then.Sunday's meltdown may have set them back a bit also
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« Reply #225 on: November 28, 2017, 06:30:58 PM »
When the fans revolt, the athletic dept starts wishing their stadium didn't hold 106,000.  
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #226 on: November 28, 2017, 07:13:56 PM »
same reason Jimmy Johnson left. Will never be able to over-take OU in the state. Plus the state of Oklahoma produce virtually no FBS talent. The state of Tennessee actually does believe it or not. Definitely more talent than the state of Oklahoma.

With that offense- and his history of throwing the ball- Mike Gundy had been the coach, Tennessee probably lands in-state 5* WR Tee Higgins- guy who was the #2 WR in the 2017 class to DPJ.

Tennessee is a better job at the end of the day. Not sure I'd leave though. Tennessee fans are crazy.
Oklahoma's population is 3.9 million, compared to Tennessee's 6.6 million.  I would guess that Oklahoma has about the same percentage of HS athletes good enough to play at Div 1-A as Tennessee does.  Neither state produces enough Div 1-A athletes to fill the rosters of two P5 programs.

But I'll throw out some names that might sound familiar: Billy Vessels, Steve Owens, Jason White, Sam Bradford.  Those are four of OU's five Heisman Trophy winners, and they were/are all Okies.

However, it is very true that if we didn't have Texas as a nearby recruiting ground we would not be where we are.  We've got 42 Texans on the roster compared to 31 Okies.  I understand that Tennessee also would be in hurting if it relied entirely on in-state recruiting.  Heck, Tennessee has gotten some star skill-position guys from Oklahoma.

Tennessee should be a much better job than Oklahoma State.  It's the #1 school in a bigger state.  It's got a lot more fans, more money and better (or at least bigger) facilities.  But right now it's a mess.

There's some speculation among Oklahoma sports mediots that Mike Gundy is not serious about this job, that he's just using the interview process to extract something--more money for assistants, more control over scheduling, whatever--from Oklahoma State.  He flirted with UT a few years back when they ended up hiring Butch Jones.  I don't know if he was offered then, but the story out of his camp was that he had received an offer and turned it down.  Maybe this is more of that.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #227 on: November 28, 2017, 07:33:14 PM »
Florida and McElwain have reached a settlement on his buyout.

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Failing to produce evidence of death threats cost former Florida coach Jim McElwain $5.4 million.

Florida gives him a $7.5 million buyout. Was due $12.9 million.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 28, 2017
probably should've kept his mouth shut about all them death threats.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #228 on: November 28, 2017, 07:37:37 PM »
Ya know when i totally F-UP at work I don't get a 7.5 mil buy out.Had I only known...I'm the guy they're looking for
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #229 on: November 28, 2017, 07:37:58 PM »
Lots of rumors that Herm Edwards of all people will interview for the ASU job. Just shoot me now. If he's hired I hope our fans go on a Tennessee-esque revolt too.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #230 on: November 28, 2017, 07:41:30 PM »
Is edwards the guy who growls and shouts a lot?If it is they'd be better off with Riley
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« Reply #231 on: November 28, 2017, 07:44:55 PM »
Lots of rumors that Herm Edwards of all people will interview for the ASU job. Just shoot me now. If he's hired I hope our fans go on a Tennessee-esque revolt too.
Ask Lovie Smith if being a crappy NFL coach translates to the college game.

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« Reply #232 on: November 28, 2017, 07:46:35 PM »
Lots of rumors that Herm Edwards of all people will interview for the ASU job. Just shoot me now. If he's hired I hope our fans go on a Tennessee-esque revolt too.
Herm Edwards covered up child rape at Penn State

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« Reply #233 on: November 28, 2017, 07:51:23 PM »
Ask Lovie Smith if being a crappy NFL coach translates to the college game.
Lovie was actually a very good NFL coach. Herm on the other hand.......

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« Reply #234 on: November 28, 2017, 07:52:13 PM »
Lots of rumors that Herm Edwards of all people will interview for the ASU job. Just shoot me now. If he's hired I hope our fans go on a Tennessee-esque revolt too.
he is way too old and past his prime and was never a good coach to begin with. would be a terrible hire. shouldn't have fired Graham.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #235 on: November 28, 2017, 08:09:06 PM »
Lots of rumors that Herm Edwards of all people will interview for the ASU job. Just shoot me now. If he's hired I hope our fans go on a Tennessee-esque revolt too.
Yeesh! Herm Edwards? Who hasn't coached in 10 years? Who hasn't coached college since the Eighties? Whose clock management is the most clueless I've ever seen?

What is Ray Anderson thinking? Were they paperboy buddies back in the day?

And look, this AZCentral writer thinks Herm is the "right fit" because he's Ray Anderson's "logical choice!"

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/2017/11/28/asu-football-coaching-search-herm-edwards/900635001/

Really wish Graham was still aboard.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #236 on: November 28, 2017, 09:23:40 PM »
Haslam owns the flying J and pilot chain... he isn't hurting for $$$... he piddles with the browns just like he does the university of tennessee- and his brother the governor backs every play he makes. 

I would love to believe the talk on the boob tube, but.... UT has a history that has spanned through at least three AD's of misdirection when it comes to hiring... they'll talk all graded of shizen just to come out of the clear blue sky with someone not even highlighted.  that leads me to believe Gundy is just manipulating his suitors.  

i don't agree with anything surrounding the way Schiano was treated, but i'm happy he isn't the coach at UT.. you buckeyes keep acting like he's all that, but if he was why are you so willing to see him leave? simply said: he isn't all that.  never has been.  there is a good chance this tarnished his opportunities some- and if so, that is BS in the most supreme way.  


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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #237 on: November 28, 2017, 09:37:18 PM »
Drew pretty sure none of us Buckeyes have said he is all that.MDot brought up what he did for Rutgers - which was accurate.He is a decent coach that brought some NFL technique/experience to the defensive side of the ball.Had 3 Db's taken in the 1st rd last draft he must be doing something right
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