2018 Coaching Changes thread

[Brutus Buckeye]

I hate to see Politics rearing it's ugly head in my Football world at an ever increasing rate. 

I know it's somewhat inevitable, with Public Universities dominating the scene. 

But I sure do miss having football as an "escape" for such things. 

[Drew4UTk]

Schiano isn't the savior some here make him out to be... decent coach no doubt... nowhere near the promised 'ground shaking' hire straight up promised, and then all the innuendo of huge names that ANY (real) UT fan would have been happy with such as Patterson, (who was snubbed for Kiffin, and later snubbed Hart in '12, and who just yesterday signed an extension and got a huge bonus), Petersen (which driveled out from straight up official sources starting Friday- another ANY real UT fan would appreciate), and of course the ever present fantasy of Gruden which they simply wouldn't kabosh when they had every opportunity to do so multiple times.  then..... out of the clear blue we're to believe that Schiano was chosen (all the while leaking through official persons the hope of Petersen?) and acting like he is a good choice in comparison? 

Currie straight up said in a presser that 'money is no object' and blah blah blah... and does this on the heels of finishing the worst season in UT history with less than 12 hours to gauge response?  

it is a freaking joke- and I get it- it's a joke on UT and their fans that everyone is enjoying... fairly earned.  and a ghost that will haunt the program forever was born today, in a bed of pure bull shit..  it simply defies anything reasonable.  And though i don't think Schiano is all what (especially tOSU fans) think he is- i think he's a decent coach and maybe a decent guy (don't know him, can't say) i don't for a second believe he fits the bill of 'what was promised'.   that would be reserved for a Petersen or Patterson or even a Mullen- hell, a Leech or a Norvelle wouldn't have been met with near the revolt... 

so... think on that... Norvelle would have been less welcomed than the prior mentioned, and even enthusiasts would have been greeted with a shoulder shrug, but not near with the revolt of Schiano.  that was just DUMB.  and a talking head got the splash he sought... 

[Brutus Buckeye]

On the OSU boards a lot of posters were ready to pack his bags for him when the news initially broke. 

I've certainly never heard of him referred to as a "Saviour"

Of course I was also unaware that he was such a controversial character. So what do I know. 

[Honestbuckeye]

Schiano isn't the savior some here make him out to be... decent coach no doubt... nowhere near the promised 'ground shaking' hire straight up promised, and then all the innuendo of huge names that ANY (real) UT fan would have been happy with such as Patterson, (who was snubbed for Kiffin, and later snubbed Hart in '12, and who just yesterday signed an extension and got a huge bonus), Petersen (which driveled out from straight up official sources starting Friday- another ANY real UT fan would appreciate), and of course the ever present fantasy of Gruden which they simply wouldn't kabosh when they had every opportunity to do so multiple times.  then..... out of the clear blue we're to believe that Schiano was chosen (all the while leaking through official persons the hope of Petersen?) and acting like he is a good choice in comparison?

Currie straight up said in a presser that 'money is no object' and blah blah blah... and does this on the heels of finishing the worst season in UT history with less than 12 hours to gauge response?  

it is a freaking joke- and I get it- it's a joke on UT and their fans that everyone is enjoying... fairly earned.  and a ghost that will haunt the program forever was born today, in a bed of pure bull shit..  it simply defies anything reasonable.  And though i don't think Schiano is all what (especially tOSU fans) think he is- i think he's a decent coach and maybe a decent guy (don't know him, can't say) i don't for a second believe he fits the bill of 'what was promised'.   that would be reserved for a Petersen or Patterson or even a Mullen- hell, a Leech or a Norvelle wouldn't have been met with near the revolt...

so... think on that... Norvelle would have been less welcomed than the prior mentioned, and even enthusiasts would have been greeted with a shoulder shrug, but not near with the revolt of Schiano.  that was just DUMB.  and a talking head got the splash he sought...

Even if you think he is a horrible coach, your fan base and a radio boob are convicting him of something he clearly did not do, that would be disgusting if he did it. 
Makes me sick about the world we live in. 
The article Mdot posted says it all
https://www.mediaite.com/online/the-twitter-mob-is-trying-to-destroy-greg-schiano-and-they-are-100-wrong/

[Honestbuckeye]

On the OSU boards a lot of posters were ready to pack his bags for him when the news initially broke.

I've certainly never heard of him referred to as a "Saviour"

Of course I was also unaware that he was such a controversial character. So what do I know.

I would love him to stay.  Cranking out top 15 or better defenses, and NFL draft picks at a historic pace, is hard to replace.
And he is not a controversial figure,as a college coach.  His players today, and their families, love the guy.

[Drew4UTk]

i agree. i'm not arguing to the contrary. you get that right?

[Mdot21]

Schiano isn't the savior some here make him out to be... decent coach no doubt... nowhere near the promised 'ground shaking' hire straight up promised, and then all the innuendo of huge names that ANY (real) UT fan would have been happy with such as Patterson, (who was snubbed for Kiffin, and later snubbed Hart in '12, and who just yesterday signed an extension and got a huge bonus), Petersen (which driveled out from straight up official sources starting Friday- another ANY real UT fan would appreciate), and of course the ever present fantasy of Gruden which they simply wouldn't kabosh when they had every opportunity to do so multiple times.  then..... out of the clear blue we're to believe that Schiano was chosen (all the while leaking through official persons the hope of Petersen?) and acting like he is a good choice in comparison?

Currie straight up said in a presser that 'money is no object' and blah blah blah... and does this on the heels of finishing the worst season in UT history with less than 12 hours to gauge response?  

it is a freaking joke- and I get it- it's a joke on UT and their fans that everyone is enjoying... fairly earned.  and a ghost that will haunt the program forever was born today, in a bed of pure bull shit..  it simply defies anything reasonable.  And though i don't think Schiano is all what (especially tOSU fans) think he is- i think he's a decent coach and maybe a decent guy (don't know him, can't say) i don't for a second believe he fits the bill of 'what was promised'.   that would be reserved for a Petersen or Patterson or even a Mullen- hell, a Leech or a Norvelle wouldn't have been met with near the revolt...

so... think on that... Norvelle would have been less welcomed than the prior mentioned, and even enthusiasts would have been greeted with a shoulder shrug, but not near with the revolt of Schiano.  that was just DUMB.  and a talking head got the splash he sought...

here's the thing: Tennessee isn't getting a Patterson or Peterson or any big name.

Schiano was probably the best they were going to get. And with the way the morons on the internets trashed him- causing the deal to fall apart- good luck finding anybody who would want to take that job now.

Schiano is 100% a legit coach. He is NOT Butch Jones or Derek Dooley or even Lane Kiffen. Schinao is legit- unlike those 3 losers. Yeah he flopped in the NFL- but so what. Damn near EVERY college coach that has ever made that jump has flopped in the NFL. It's REALLY HARD.

He was a heck of an assistant coach in college for Penn State, Miami, and Ohio State- and he built Rutgers from the ashes into a legitimate P5 program. There is NO WAY IN HELL they ever get a bid to join the B1G without him. What he did there- was NOT an easy thing to do.

[Brutus Buckeye]

I would love him to stay.  Cranking out top 15 or better defenses, and NFL draft picks at a historic pace, is hard to replace.
And he is not a controversial figure,as a college coach.  His players today, and their families, love the guy.

I agree, and suspect that they were lashing out in a "preemptive break up" sorta way. 
A lot of no wonder the D looked like crap against Iowa. Schiano's mind was in Tennessee sorta posts.
As a fan base we've been conditioned by Urban that assistant coaches are on a two year commitment that works both ways. 
So we sorta new he'd use this job as a launch pad to another gig. Now it looks like he might stick around, which would please me. 

[Drew4UTk]

blah blah blah... UT WILL hire a big name. this isn't over yet by a long shot.. it's STILL UT, and they have the money this time around.  they just made it harder than it should have been.  if friggin' Currie is fired, and Blackburn gets the nod, or even Fulmer as an interim, the car will be back on the tracks.  as bad as Hart was, his 'get rich quick' BS which led to his lack of popularity loaded the UT coffers.... and unless Schiano makes off with $20M for nothing, they still have it. 

[FearlessF]

if they were willing to pay the 9 mil buyout for the coach in Ames, they have cash

9 million, 20 million

big dollars, but not for a group of donors of substance

[Mdot21]

you guys are going to wind up with Brady Hoke. Calling it now.

[Brutus Buckeye]

blah blah blah... UT WILL hire a big name. this isn't over yet by a long shot.. it's STILL UT, and they have the money this time around.  they just made it harder than it should have been.  if friggin' Currie is fired, and Blackburn gets the nod, or even Fulmer as an interim, the car will be back on the tracks.  as bad as Hart was, his 'get rich quick' BS which led to his lack of popularity loaded the UT coffers.... and unless Schiano makes off with $20M for nothing, they still have it.

Heh, the money helps. 
When OSU fired Thad Matta, Chris Holtmann was the first choice. He turned it down along with a few others, so the AD circled back around and made Holtmann an offer that he couldn't refuse.
That said, I don't know if Tennessee can afford to do that with Jon Gruden. 

[Drew4UTk]

i've already called that.  Hoke will be there next season by my reckoning.  he will wear 'interim' all the same, until the real coach is found.  

[Drew4UTk]

the whole Gruden thing... grrrrr... 

yeah, they talked to him- that's a fact.  they shot for him that's also a fact... my personal opinion is that he either accepted an invitation or offered his services as an adviser... hence all the discussion with him, and the care not to write him off- he WAS 'helping'.. 

UT has always had a dream of finding the next diamond in the rough... as if they are savants of some sort... and if they can't catch a 'Jones' or a Kiffin or a what the hell were they thinking in retrospect Dooley then it better be a mountain of a presence in a known entity, and there sits gruden in their sites.  dumb as shit.  but, i've little doubt the conversation went from "you want a job?" to "well, how would you go about this?" in short order.  

there is no confidence in the AD after Hamilton, Hart, and now Currie- i'd be shocked if he survives this... some places are already saying he's gone/done.  that opens a friggin barn door for clowns like Haslam to enter, who was an official member of the 'committee'... why? stupidity... this isn't rocket science, it's more like deer hunting... the best thing to do first being "stay still, see what comes to you", second, gauge interest in targets.. third, seek them out and see it through all the while keeping an eye on what's happening around you.