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EastAthens

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #140 on: November 27, 2017, 11:54:20 AM »
FWIW, CFN, the old Mothership, recommends these 5 guys for Arizona State's consideration.

Kevin Sumlin: He didn’t fit at Texas A&M, but ASU might be the right spot for a great guy, high-octane offensive coach.

Charlie Strong: Maybe, the idea is to defense to combat the rest of the Pac-12 offenses – and what’s coming at UCLA.

Mike Norvell: The Memphis head man is going to be part of the coaching carousel, and he certainly knows ASU as the former offensive coordinator.

Jeff Tedford: What he did in one year at Fresno State is nothing short of amazing. He certainly knows the Pac-12, and he proved he certainly knows how to coach.

Jim Bob Cooter: If AD Ray Anderson really likes the NFL style, the guy who’s making the Detroit offense go is soon going to be a big name.
I would look at Jeremy Pruitt, he is going to be a good coach for someone. 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #141 on: November 27, 2017, 12:55:11 PM »

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2017, 01:00:22 PM »
Why don't the Vols just hire the Memphis coach? 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2017, 01:07:12 PM »
Norvell is a good coach and a good man by all accounts... he was spoken of early and then it died.  

the latest wrinkle in this train wreck of a soap opera is that Currie and Schiano had contact about the vacancy even prior to Jones being released created the 'vacancy'.  If this is so, he went straight to his 'buddy' and never even really considered anyone else, which is further indictment on Currie. 

this is astounding... the entire thing... it's shameful.  just like a train wreck, i can't look away no matter how hard i try.  

i'll be surprised if Currie is still the AD in 24 hours.   

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2017, 01:08:40 PM »
Why don't the Vols just hire the Memphis coach?
Mike Norvell is from Texas and played college ball in Arkansas. Before he got the Memphis job, he travelled the world with Todd Graham as Graham was in his dream job quest.

I've heard him mention as a candidate for the Arkansas job.
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« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2017, 01:09:22 PM »
i'll be surprised if Currie is still the AD in 24 hours.  
I'm surprised he is still the AD right now.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #146 on: November 27, 2017, 01:14:21 PM »
http://usatodayhss.com/2017/greg-schiano-tennessee-new-jersey-high-schools

NJ HS's backing Schiano
Tennesse's "QB of the future" was a 4* out of New Jersey.

New Jersey produceds A TON of talent year in year out. Would be kinda funny if New Jersey coaches started shunning Tennessee away from their players. Reap what you sow.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2017, 01:33:37 PM »
why would Jimbo leave a great job for a mediocre one? Makes no sense. FSU- man that's a great job.
I'm curious what makes A&M a "mediocre" job.  No doubt FSU is a good gig and would be tough to leave... but the A&M job is not exactly chopped liver.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2017, 01:35:41 PM »
aTm is a pretty good gig. 

Not quite a "helmet" school though, whereas FSU obviously is.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2017, 01:42:50 PM »
yeah that was probably a poor choice of words on my part. A&M is definitely a pretty good job. But the pressure there is insane. It's unrealistic. You have a fan base who thinks they are something they are not. The pressure there is nuts. A&M is the #2 school in the state of Texas and always will be. I can't even name a former A&M player other than Johnny Foosball- and that guy is an embarrassment.

A&M just pushed Sumlin out of the door- a guy who won about 70% of his games and had a winning bowl record.

If A&M didn't have those kind of insane unrealistic expectations, it'd be a heck of a job.

All things considered, FSU is definitely a better job than A&M.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2017, 01:46:09 PM »
aTm is a pretty good gig.

Not quite a "helmet" school though, whereas FSU obviously is.
Wouldn't argue that... I'm just curious how FSU being a "helmet" school actually benefits Fisher?  History is certainly one thing, perhaps the biggest... I wonder what else.  
If A&M goes 12-0... they'd be in the playoffs just as assuredly as FSU would.  A&M has some intangibles like a bigger stadium, bigger fanbase, plays in arguably a higher prestige conference which I'm not sure how much any of that is valued.  But one thing that does matter is A&M pays better apparently.  A&M certainly has more cash and better facilities to play with than FSU does, which has been a gripe of Fisher's at FSU for awhile now.  Interesting that in the arms race of college football, a non-helmet school like A&M has significantly more to play with.  
Again.... when it gets right down to it.... I'm just curious what the helmet status of FSU is getting for Fisher that he wouldn't get at A&M because it doesn't appear to be much.  
I guess the point is... if helmet status matter that much... then Fisher wouldn't even be considering the A&M job, but by all accounts.... he is.  

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2017, 01:50:11 PM »
Coaches walk when money talks. 

Jimbo is yours if you want him. 

All you have to do is make an offer that he can't refuse.

Simple as that. 
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2017, 01:52:12 PM »
yeah that was probably a poor choice of words on my part. A&M is definitely a pretty good job. But the pressure there is insane. It's unrealistic. You have a fan base who thinks they are something they are not. The pressure there is nuts. A&M is the #2 school in the state of Texas and always will be. I can't even name a former A&M player other than Johnny Foosball- and that guy is an embarrassment.

A&M just pushed Sumlin out of the door- a guy who won about 70% of his games and had a winning bowl record.

If A&M didn't have those kind of insane unrealistic expectations, it'd be a heck of a job.

All things considered, FSU is definitely a better job than A&M.
I assume your presumption that A&M is #2 in the state of Texas is based of "helmet" status again.  Again, I'm wondering what that's getting the horns right now.  A&M has had a better record than Texas for a few years now, despite playing in a tougher conference.  Helmet status doesn't seem to be helping out the horns much lately.  They just got beat by Texas Tech.  
As for A&M's expectations... they are no higher than any other big school's expectations given the resources at its disposal.  


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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2017, 01:53:28 PM »
Coaches walk when money talks.

Jimbo is yours if you want him.

All you have to do is make an offer that he can't refuse.

Simple as that.
Yep.. Very true.  And A&M may just do that.  Funny how a non-helmet can pay more than a helmet.  Oh well.
As a fan... I'm not sure he'd be my first choice.... but the powers that be didn't give me a call and ask.  

 

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