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Topic: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2019, 12:50:12 PM »
The Spartans were 13-point underdogs coming in and you probably could have gotten another touchdown from the odds makers when Michigan State took the field for its first drive without Cook.

The interesting stat here is that MSU LOST the TO battle 2-0 which led to the OSU points.

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2019, 02:41:53 PM »
They each had 8 carries for 25 yards (so 16 for 50 combined).  Barrett had 15 for 44, so basically a draw there.

The difference was:

(1) O'Conner was 7-12 for 89 yards, 7.4 ypa, with a QBR of 80.8; while Barrett was 9-16 for 46 yards, 2.9 ypa, with a QBR of 18.4.

(2) Holmes/Scott had 123 yards on 27 carries (4.6 ypc) while Zeke had 33 yards on 12 carries (2.8 ypc).

So that's been a fun narrative, but as far as QB run production it was about as close to even as it gets.  The difference was that O'Conner outplayed Barrett as a passer, and MSU's running backs outperformed Zeke.
Good data.  Zeke only getting 12 carries is still a point of anger in some circles. 
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2019, 04:31:26 PM »
It wasn't even necessarily that, so much as MSU sold out on him on the read options, and dared J.R. to just beat them with his legs, and he didn't have his best running day.  I do think it was a little stubborn of Meyer not to go to more strict handoff plays to try and eliminate that.  

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2019, 05:07:38 PM »

***BIG TEN GAME OF THE WEEK***
#13 Wisconsin Badgers (3-1, 6-1) at #3 Ohio State Buckeyes (4-0, 7-0)
NOON - Columbus, OH - FOX
Wisconsin's stunning defeat last weekend took a little bit of shine off this one.  It's still the Big Ten Game of the Week, but it appears we still have to wait for Ohio State-Penn State for the Big Ten Game of the Year.  Barry's program didn't truly arrive until 1993, but the seeds were planted in 1992 when he sent his first warning shot, by upsetting #12 Ohio State 20-16 in the Big Ten opener.  That kicked off a 12 year run where Wisconsin went 5-5-1 against the Buckeyes, including winning 4 of the final 6.  Since 2005?  Wisconsin has won just 1 of 10, and even against the spread, the Badgers are only 2-8.  So can Wisconsin counter that?  Ohio State's defense has done a 180 from their dismal performance last year.  But they are doing it, flying it all over the field.  The only team that tried to line up and punch them in the mouth was Michigan State, and they lacked the personnel to do it.  Wisconsin doesn't lack the personnel.  Wisconsin would prefer to play this game in a phone booth, because nobody in the conference can out-athlete Ohio State, but Wisconsin is one of the few that might equal them in muscle.  As I addressed above, in the Illinois preview, is that you wonder if the Illini found the cheat code to the Wisconsin defense, or if that was just a fluke.  Wisconsin didn't let Illinois sustain any offensive rhythm.  Illinois was able to beat them with a few big plays.  Big plays you want?  Ohio State is 5th nationally in yards per play, and leads the nation in run plays of 40+ yards, 50+ yards and 60+ yards.  That's why in four Big Ten games, they've only averaged 13 third downs faced per game.  But hey, if by chance you get them there...they are leading the nation in third down conversion rate.  For Wisconsin they need to sustain drives, wear down the defense.  Get it into 3rd and manageable, then crush your spirit by picking it up on the ground, and resetting the downs.  Against Michigan State two weeks ago, the Badgers faced 13 3rd downs, and extended the drive 8 times, but last week, from the point Wisconsin scored their final touchdown to go up 20-7, the Badgers threw the ball on 5 of 6 3rd downs, including the interception.  If Ohio State gets up early, that when things start to snowball, because you have to open up, and you play right into Ohio State's strength.  The Buckeyes have outscored opponents 231-31 in first halves, and then just rolled from there.  Only against Michigan State has a team even been within one score of the Buckeyes beyond early in the second quarter, within 17-10, unto a J.K. Dobbins run extended the lead to 24-10 with 2:24 left in the half.
OHIO STATE 34, WISCONSIN 14


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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
ELA added one point to my score, plagarism.  

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2019, 09:26:27 AM »
You should be flattered,you know imitation and all that
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2019, 11:38:30 AM »
41-10 Buckeyes.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2019, 01:32:03 PM »
Tough defenses, or inept offenses, or just the rain.

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2019, 01:38:11 PM »
Boff
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 4-0) Game Week
« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2019, 02:58:03 PM »
OSU is great.  Like Bama last year.

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2019, 03:05:30 PM »
41-10 Buckeyes.
I was closer than ELA and CDawg.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2019, 03:08:20 PM »
UW is getting that needed idle week now. Time to figure some things out with the OL and play calling. Time for Chryst to take that part back and just let Rudolph concentrate on coaching the OL.

Even though I knew they would get crushed, losing like this, to anyone, is not acceptable to Badger fans and the Big Boss Man.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2019, 04:28:25 PM »
Looking back, the game really turned when UW's nose tackle (Keanu Benton) went down injured. This (on top of starting DE Garrett Rand missing the game) really hurt, as UW is not very deep on the DL. Benton going down is when Dobbins really started to take off.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2019, 10:40:37 AM »
buckeyes are pretty goood
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