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Topic: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #84 on: October 27, 2019, 11:40:39 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2019, 04:28:25 PM
Looking back, the game really turned when UW's nose tackle (Keanu Benton) went down injured. This (on top of starting DE Garrett Rand missing the game) really hurt, as UW is not very deep on the DL. Benton going down is when Dobbins really started to take off.
Didn't notice at the time but that could be.Buckeyes defense really buttoned down,for 2 qtrs UW took the O out of their rythm/flow.The Defense kept getting the ball back for Fields & Friends tough to stop after awhile.Although brought up quite a bit on BTN & ESPN,Chase Young's performance exceeded expectations.He had 4 sacks,2 forced fumbles and 5 TFL - that's a hell of a day at the office.Dobbins turned in a good game also with 161 yds rushing.Bucky battered Fields up pretty good - looking forward I suppose to the by week.Good Luck to UW moving forward should be some stout contests with Iowa/Gophs
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #85 on: October 27, 2019, 04:56:00 PM »
Just saw that Taylor had the same number of carries as Dobbins, yet was out-gained by Teague.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2019, 09:23:45 AM »
Yep, the UW OL is not good right now.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2019, 10:04:18 AM »
Dobbins had more opportunities that had no defenders touch him
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2019, 10:11:45 AM »
Question for the group:

I don't see any discussion of this in this thread but it might have been batted around in the SOC thread for that day.  I didn't see that, I was in the 'Shoe for the game.  

Anyway, Wisconsin was trailing by 17 late in the 3rd quarter and driving.  They ended up in 4th and 3 at the tOSU 32 with about a minute left in the third quarter and lined up to go for it.  From there, it was just a catastrophe for the Badgers.  The jumped early on 4th and 3 which put them in 4th and 8.  That, of course, was an obvious passing situation and Chase Young sacked Jack Coan while also forcing a fumble (which was actually superfluous since it was 4th down anyway).  

My questions: 

  • Would UW's kicker have had a decent chance to make the 49 yard FG from the 32?  
  • What about the 54 yard FG from the 37?  
  • What did you guys think of the decision to go for it on 4th and 3?  

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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2019, 10:21:10 AM »
well, a Badger kicker did make one from over 60 last week

I like the decision to go on 4th and 3, not 4th and 8
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2019, 10:25:05 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 26, 2019, 10:11:45 AM
Question for the group:

I don't see any discussion of this in this thread but it might have been batted around in the SOC thread for that day.  I didn't see that, I was in the 'Shoe for the game. 

To your question I haven't the foggiest,what yanked that out of the recesses?Have you ever hooked up with Ty who is a season ticket holder I believe?
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2019, 10:32:28 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 26, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
well, a Badger kicker did make one from over 60 last week

I like the decision to go on 4th and 3, not 4th and 8
Ok, I looked up Wisconsin's kicking stats and they are not good.  Their regular kicker is Sophomore Collin Larsh.  He is 50/51 on XP's and 6/6 on FG's under 30 yards but only 4/8 on FG's from 30-49 and 0/1 on FG's over 50.  

They also have a senior, Zach Hintze who has only tried one FG all year, a 62 yarder that he made against Purdue.  

My guess is that Wisconsin's coaching staff figured the 54 yard FG on 4th and 8 from the 37 was beyond their Kicker's range.  If that is the case then I can understand the decision to go for it on 4th and 8.  IMHO, Wisconsin HAD to get the game within two scores on THAT drive to have any realistic chance to win.  The Badgers just aren't built to come from behind so they probably had no chance if they entered the 4th quarter down by three scores.  

The decision to go for it on 4th and 3 from the 32 is a little more questionable to me.  IMHO, when you are the team behind, the number one necessity is to keep the pressure on your opponent.  When the Badgers failed to score any points on that drive, there was no pressure on tOSU after that.  At that point the Buckeyes had a three score lead and the ball against a running team that isn't designed to score a lot of points quickly and the game was effectively over.  With a FG there, the Badgers would have had a glimmer of hope and the Buckeyes would have felt at least some pressure.  
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2019, 10:34:16 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 26, 2019, 10:25:05 AM
To your question I haven't the foggiest,what yanked that out of the recesses?Have you ever hooked up with Ty who is a season ticket holder I believe?
What yanked it out of the recesses was that I meant to ask after the game but I forgot and never came back to it and just happened to remember today when I was comparing PSU's and UW's games against tOSU.  
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2019, 11:09:04 AM »
You are a bastage for making me relive this fiasco. I hate you.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2019, 11:17:39 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 26, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
You are a bastage for making me relive this fiasco. I hate you.
Sorry, but what did you think of that decision?  Up until then it was a reasonably competitive game.  
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2019, 11:32:46 AM »
I'm kidding...

Did I like the 4th and 3 call? Yes. On 4th and 8 I questioned the decision, and wondered what I would do otherwise.
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2019, 12:27:53 PM »
punting on 4th and 8 wasn't a great option

obviously would have turned out better than the results on the strip sack, but.........
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Re: #13 Wisconsin (6-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (7-0, 5-0) Post Game
« Reply #97 on: November 27, 2019, 01:53:28 PM »
Right decision to go for it on 4th and 3 with the kicker the Badgers have. 4th and 8 is just a sucker punch waiting to happen. The kicker wasn't going to hit from 54 yards (neither--the reason our kickoff guy, who hit the 62-yarder the other day, isn't the kicker is his accuracy)--nor was he especially likely to hit from 47. And missing a 54-yarder is effectively the same as fumbling a shotgun snap. But punting from OSU's 37 while down 17? Sheesh. I think you have to go for it in that situation. In a closer game, you punt it and rely on the defense, but when you desperately need points? Take your chance. Coan has converted plenty of 8-yard passes; while a painful situation to be in, I like the call.
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