Welp.Please tell me you’re kidding? Wisconsin is still one of the best teams in the country and it’s not about how good they are anyway, it’s about what they are capable of. And that works both directions. We saw last weekend what they’re capable of on the downside but I don’t even think we’ve seen what they’re capable of on the upside
I was holding out for an OSU fan to start this thing, so ELA (or I) could come in and edit the subject line, as per the norm.
Anyway, I don't see any possibility for a Badger win here. We'll see how the kids
I am going to be on a plane heading to Foxboro for the Browns-Patriots game. I thought when I scheduled my flight that this game would be Prime time. So much for planning. Hopefully I can get it on the wifi on the flight.Read the fine print before you buy the wifi. Most of them don't support streaming.
I am going to be on a plane heading to Foxboro for the Browns-Patriots game. I thought when I scheduled my flight that this game would be Prime time. So much for planning. Hopefully I can get it on the wifi on the flight.That's not even a 2 hr flight.
That's not even a 2 hr flight.
At best you'll get 45 min of streaming.
Welp.I will give you your chance to moderate, and edit per my post, if you dare.
I was holding out for an OSU fan to start this thing, so ELA (or I) could come in and edit the subject line, as per the norm.
Anyway, I don't see any possibility for a Badger win here. We'll see how the kids respond.
From Phoenix to Boston is 5 Hours.Whoops.:57:
Of Ohio State’s 22 offensive and defensive starters against Northwestern last week, 16 were considered 4- or 5-star prospects out of high school, including five 5-star starters. Wisconsin had four 4-star prospects and no 5-star players in its starting 22 against Illinois. Half of Ohio State’s 22 starters ranked in the top 10 nationally at their respective positions in high school.Not buying any of it Badge. Nobody does a better job of recruiting the RIGHT guys for what they want to do, and then developing them, than Wisconsin. Nobody. Best RB in the game- again. Best offensive line in the game- again one of the best LB groups- again.
but, crazy talent, trumps development most times, not all the timeDepth is also a major factor... which leads to my next post:
this is why the Badgers haven't gone undefeated many times and haven't represented in the 4-team playoff
That said, there is no way that Ohio State wins this game Saturday. The Badgers will be hungry, pissed and ready to show what a fluke last week was. :)
losing to Lovie will have that affectNo kidding.
you could simply post the linkI don't think anyone here, except me, pays for the site.
;)
I agree, but most kids get back out there and knock heads
Those can (and should) be career-ending.
Tough game for Wisconsin. If they can control the ball like they did against Illinois without the turnovers and penalties they have a chance.I don't think they can hold the ball for 40+ minutes against this team. Be lucky to be 30+, I think.
What I wonder about is the fact that it looks like the game will be played in a downpour. How does that change things?The Badgers will need to be able to pass to have a chance of winning. In the last 3 games (NU, MSU, UI) the blueprint has been made on how to stop JT.
A #9 ranked Sparty upset the #2 ranked Buckeyes in Columbus in a heavy rain in 2015.With our backup quarterback
With our backup quarterbackThat actually helped you, he was a better runner
A #9 ranked Sparty upset the #2 ranked Buckeyes in Columbus in a heavy rain in 2015.According to friends that were there it was cold/damp with some drizzle.The narrative gets changed overtime how MSU got lucky with a deluge - not so,evidently.JT played like crap,Zeke was in the Hospital with a leg infection - the week prior,something I'm still paying my medical provider off for.tOSU was uninspired and Sparty wasn't
That actually helped you, he was a better runnerYup more or less played right into the scheme of things
I was told MSU moved the ball uphill, both ways, in that game.In 2 feet of snow
That actually helped you, he was a better runnerThey each had 8 carries for 25 yards (so 16 for 50 combined). Barrett had 15 for 44, so basically a draw there.
According to friends that were there it was cold/damp with some drizzle.The narrative gets changed overtime how MSU got lucky with a deluge - not so,evidently.JT played like crap,Zeke was in the Hospital with a leg infection - the week prior,something I'm still paying my medical provider off for.tOSU was uninspired and Sparty wasn't
They each had 8 carries for 25 yards (so 16 for 50 combined). Barrett had 15 for 44, so basically a draw there.Good data. Zeke only getting 12 carries is still a point of anger in some circles.
The difference was:
(1) O'Conner was 7-12 for 89 yards, 7.4 ypa, with a QBR of 80.8; while Barrett was 9-16 for 46 yards, 2.9 ypa, with a QBR of 18.4.
(2) Holmes/Scott had 123 yards on 27 carries (4.6 ypc) while Zeke had 33 yards on 12 carries (2.8 ypc).
So that's been a fun narrative, but as far as QB run production it was about as close to even as it gets. The difference was that O'Conner outplayed Barrett as a passer, and MSU's running backs outperformed Zeke.
| ***BIG TEN GAME OF THE WEEK*** |
| #13 Wisconsin Badgers (3-1, 6-1) at #3 Ohio State Buckeyes (4-0, 7-0) |
| NOON - Columbus, OH - FOX |
| Wisconsin's stunning defeat last weekend took a little bit of shine off this one. It's still the Big Ten Game of the Week, but it appears we still have to wait for Ohio State-Penn State for the Big Ten Game of the Year. Barry's program didn't truly arrive until 1993, but the seeds were planted in 1992 when he sent his first warning shot, by upsetting #12 Ohio State 20-16 in the Big Ten opener. That kicked off a 12 year run where Wisconsin went 5-5-1 against the Buckeyes, including winning 4 of the final 6. Since 2005? Wisconsin has won just 1 of 10, and even against the spread, the Badgers are only 2-8. So can Wisconsin counter that? Ohio State's defense has done a 180 from their dismal performance last year. But they are doing it, flying it all over the field. The only team that tried to line up and punch them in the mouth was Michigan State, and they lacked the personnel to do it. Wisconsin doesn't lack the personnel. Wisconsin would prefer to play this game in a phone booth, because nobody in the conference can out-athlete Ohio State, but Wisconsin is one of the few that might equal them in muscle. As I addressed above, in the Illinois preview, is that you wonder if the Illini found the cheat code to the Wisconsin defense, or if that was just a fluke. Wisconsin didn't let Illinois sustain any offensive rhythm. Illinois was able to beat them with a few big plays. Big plays you want? Ohio State is 5th nationally in yards per play, and leads the nation in run plays of 40+ yards, 50+ yards and 60+ yards. That's why in four Big Ten games, they've only averaged 13 third downs faced per game. But hey, if by chance you get them there...they are leading the nation in third down conversion rate. For Wisconsin they need to sustain drives, wear down the defense. Get it into 3rd and manageable, then crush your spirit by picking it up on the ground, and resetting the downs. Against Michigan State two weeks ago, the Badgers faced 13 3rd downs, and extended the drive 8 times, but last week, from the point Wisconsin scored their final touchdown to go up 20-7, the Badgers threw the ball on 5 of 6 3rd downs, including the interception. If Ohio State gets up early, that when things start to snowball, because you have to open up, and you play right into Ohio State's strength. The Buckeyes have outscored opponents 231-31 in first halves, and then just rolled from there. Only against Michigan State has a team even been within one score of the Buckeyes beyond early in the second quarter, within 17-10, unto a J.K. Dobbins run extended the lead to 24-10 with 2:24 left in the half. |
| OHIO STATE 34, WISCONSIN 14 |
41-10 Buckeyes.I was closer than ELA and CDawg.
Looking back, the game really turned when UW's nose tackle (Keanu Benton) went down injured. This (on top of starting DE Garrett Rand missing the game) really hurt, as UW is not very deep on the DL. Benton going down is when Dobbins really started to take off.Didn't notice at the time but that could be.Buckeyes defense really buttoned down,for 2 qtrs UW took the O out of their rythm/flow.The Defense kept getting the ball back for Fields & Friends tough to stop after awhile.Although brought up quite a bit on BTN & ESPN,Chase Young's performance exceeded expectations.He had 4 sacks,2 forced fumbles and 5 TFL - that's a hell of a day at the office.Dobbins turned in a good game also with 161 yds rushing.Bucky battered Fields up pretty good - looking forward I suppose to the by week.Good Luck to UW moving forward should be some stout contests with Iowa/Gophs
Question for the group:To your question I haven't the foggiest,what yanked that out of the recesses?Have you ever hooked up with Ty who is a season ticket holder I believe?
I don't see any discussion of this in this thread but it might have been batted around in the SOC thread for that day. I didn't see that, I was in the 'Shoe for the game.
well, a Badger kicker did make one from over 60 last weekOk, I looked up Wisconsin's kicking stats and they are not good. Their regular kicker is Sophomore Collin Larsh. He is 50/51 on XP's and 6/6 on FG's under 30 yards but only 4/8 on FG's from 30-49 and 0/1 on FG's over 50.
I like the decision to go on 4th and 3, not 4th and 8
To your question I haven't the foggiest,what yanked that out of the recesses?Have you ever hooked up with Ty who is a season ticket holder I believe?What yanked it out of the recesses was that I meant to ask after the game but I forgot and never came back to it and just happened to remember today when I was comparing PSU's and UW's games against tOSU.
You are a bastage for making me relive this fiasco. I hate you.Sorry, but what did you think of that decision? Up until then it was a reasonably competitive game.
To your question I haven't the foggiest,what yanked that out of the recesses?Have you ever hooked up with Ty who is a season ticket holder I believe?I'm a season Ticket holder. I was at the game. I said hi to medina down at Blacksburg.