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fuzzynavol

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Good Ole Rocky Top...
« on: January 18, 2021, 09:26:03 PM »
I’ve got some harsh words for those in power at Tennessee, something they don’t want to hear but better embrace.

It’s not the 1990s anymore. Tennessee will never be elite again.

After yet another coach failed to make it work on Rocky Top and Jeremy Pruitt was fired after 3 seasons and amid an NCAA investigation, it can no longer be denied: The days of Tennessee consistently winning big and competing at the highest level of college football are long gone.
I said it 3 years ago when the Vols made their 4th hire in 10 years and will say it again and again until those on Rocky Top can hear it loud and clear. Until the most relentless, raucous and thin-skinned fan base (I say this lovingly, Vols fans) in all of college football finally and humbly capitulates.

It’s over, folks.

You might get a one-off season every now and then where the Vols make it to the SEC Championship Game. You might strike lightning in a bottle and land a recruit everyone missed (see: Lamar Jackson), and he might be enough to win the East Division.

But this program will never again win like it did in the golden years of Phil Fulmer and Peyton Manning and Tee Martin and Al Wilson. Never.

Tennessee will never be elite again.

There’s a simple reason for this declaration, and it’s as undeniable as the long line of failure at Tennessee since Fulmer was forced out after the 2008 season: players.

Players win championships. The more elite players you have, the greater your chance of winning – and winning big.

Tennessee is the SEC’s version of Nebraska, a former college football power that continues to circulate through coaching failures without addressing the true north reason.

Players.

It’s always about players, and more important, player procurement. And it’s never been more difficult for Tennessee to get enough elite players to make a difference.

“There’s no draw, there’s no recent history,” a former Vols assistant coach told me. “Kids today don’t know Tee Martin was a national championship quarterback. They know Tee Martin, the coach. You know what all of these (recruits) see? Bad football. You’re not getting guys who will change the direction of your program with bad football, no matter how you sell it.”

Those players of years past made Fulmer a Hall of Fame coach. Those players helped the Vols roll through a 45-5 record in the late 1990s, including a national title and 2 SEC championships.
But the days of Tennessee getting who it wants – or even close to it – in the South have been gone for years. The Vols aren’t going into Louisiana and getting Manning, or Alabama and getting Martin, or Georgia and getting Jamal Lewis. Hell, they’re not beating Clemson or South Carolina for Shaun Ellis.

Fulmer and his staff capitalized on program regressions at Alabama, LSU and Georgia to land some of the best players in the history of the program. Tennessee hasn’t beaten Georgia or LSU for a legitimate impact recruit in more than a decade, and both Georgia and LSU have gone through coaching changes and turmoil.

Tennessee has beaten Florida once since Fulmer was pushed out after the 2008 season, and hasn’t landed a true difference-maker recruit from the state of Florida over that span.
The Vols’ recruiting footprint is the state of Tennessee — and fighting an uphill battle in the South. Or potentially using an illegal move (see: Pruitt firing).

This isn’t hyperbole, these are tangible, real reasons it hasn’t worked at Tennessee – and why it won’t moving forward. At least, not to the level to satisfy a rabid fan base.

This is the same fan base that 3 years ago ran off Greg Schiano, who looks like Vince Lombardi compared to the P.E. coach that is Pruitt.

The same university that allowed a former beloved coach (Fulmer) to torpedo what could’ve been a unique and intriguing hire (Mike Leach) that might have led to one of those one-off seasons, and then allowed the former beloved coach to make things worse.

Everyone is on the hook for this mess. From the university bigwigs who in 2009 signed off on Lane Kiffin – he wasn’t ready, and he absolutely was leaving should the USC job open up (of course it was opening up; the Trojans were staring at the NCAA sheriff) – to everyone who made every wrong move along the way since, to the Tennessee administration with hat in hand Monday afternoon proclaiming they will get it right this time.

It’s a tragic comedy of a 12-year run that has led to 4 football coaches and 2 interim coaches sludging through a 73-75 record. Just barely average.

This is what you are, Tennessee. Now and for the foreseeable future.

An average team with Alabama dreams. An average team that can’t recruit like it once did, and won’t ever recruit well enough to sustain elite success.

We’ve heard it over and over from every fan base, not just the loyal Vols fans.

Who says we can’t find our own version of Dabo Swinney?

Because there’s only one Dabo. Just like there’s one Saban and one Urban Meyer and after that, there’s a deep, deep chasm to the rest of college football coaching fiefdom.

Want to know who can take the current Tennessee situation – with its inherent geographical footprint recruiting issues and lack of elite high school players in the state of Tennessee – and win big?

Start with the aforementioned three coaches, and it ends there.

Saban will retire from Alabama when he’s good and ready. Meyer is in the NFL, and Swinney’s next move, more than likely, is the NFL.

Those are the only three coaches with the track record and trophy case – and charisma – to annually recruit top-5 recruiting classes to Tennessee and win a national championship.
The obvious question for the Tennessee administration: Where do you settle?

It begins and ends with hiring a coach who won’t run afoul of the NCAA. If you’re hiring to run one of the top seven SEC programs, it damn sure better be an experienced head coach.

If for some unknown reason you’ve decided to not hire an experienced head coach (see: falling down the same rabbit hole unless he’s the perfect candidate), it better be someone with a nearly flawless track record of working at major programs and someone with a spotless résumé on and off the field.

That list is about 2-3 assistant coaches long — and wouldn’t have included Pruitt in the last go-round.

Again, this is reality. It’s hard to hear if you’re a loyal Vols fan and you can’t understand why this proud program has looked so painfully dysfunctional since the last time it won an SEC championship. That was 1998.

Even the 2001 team, the group that won close games in a tough, 9/11 season, only needed to beat 3-loss LSU to play Nebraska in the BCS Championship Game. And lost.

LSU had two quarterbacks who couldn’t throw that day, and averaged 3.7 yards per play – and still won by 11 points.

That was the first of many gut-punches Vols fans have had to endure over the last two decades. There will be more.

3. The next move

They said all the right things at Monday’s press conference. They talked of winning the right way, getting things turned around and finding the right coach.

There was also this from UT chancellor Donde Plowman: “We are looking at some serious potential NCAA violations.”

One SEC source told me Monday night the number of violations could exceed 30, depending on mitigation.

So where does Tennessee turn? The Team Turmoil days of the last 12 years already have soured the job for some coaches, including the Power 5 coaches who turned down the job 3 years ago (Mike Gundy, Dave Doeren, Jeff Brohm).

Who wants to walk into a situation with a fan base that expects greatness despite the obvious player procurement drawbacks, and with potential NCAA probation?

Tennessee officials say they want to hire an athletic director first and let him or her hire the football coach. Longtime SEC assistant Kevin Steele, who was hired by Pruitt less than a week ago, is the interim coach – and may be the last man standing when the storm blows over.
Tennessee can’t hire Liberty coach Hugh Freeze – and natural choice because of his history and success in the SEC – after it fired Pruitt for NCAA violations. Freeze had NCAA violations at Ole Miss, and those problems and personal behavior issues forced him out.

If you’re Billy Napier (an assistant under both Saban and Swinney) and you’ve built a strong program at Louisiana, do you really want to be dropped into that mess – or is it more prudent to wait another year for another SEC job to open? Eight of the 14 SEC coaches who began the 2019 season have been fired.

Matt Campbell isn’t leaving Iowa State for Tennessee. Nor will Tom Allen leave Indiana.

The Vols, more than likely, will wind up offering the job to a Power 5 assistant coach, or a coach who can’t say no. A coach who goes from making a few hundred thousand coaching in the depths of the Group of 5 (Coastal Carolina’s Jamey Chadwell) to making a few million a year in the SEC.





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Re: Good Ole Rocky Top...
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2021, 09:38:46 PM »
Wrong as usual but with a little bit being correct. It’s players , players, players if you’re a top 5-7 program but beyond that’s its coaching and player development ahead of anything else. The talent gap between an 11 th ranked class and 25th is minimal and that plays out over and over. FLA barely out recruits us every year yet we can’t beat them , we crush KY in recruiting every but lose to them 50% of the time. TN should NEVER be accepting of a 3-7 season ...... NEVER but especially with a 3rd year coach and a 5th year returning starting QB 

I do agree though the days of us being a perennial top 5 contender would take quite a few stars aligning but no reason TN can’t win 8-9 games a year and not get totally embarrassed every time we play a top 10 opponent 

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Re: Good Ole Rocky Top...
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2021, 09:41:01 PM »
That 2001game caused me to drop Dish for at least 10 years

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Re: Good Ole Rocky Top...
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2021, 09:56:52 PM »
I remember the Alabama fans saying the same until Saban showed up.

Mike DuBose 1997–2000 47 24 23 — 0.510 16 16 — 0.500 0 2 — 1 1 0
Dennis Franchione 2001–2002 25 17 8 — 0.680 10 6 — 0.625 1 0 — 0 0 0 —
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Mike Shula 2003–2006 49 10 23 — 0.303 5 19 — 0.208 0 1 — 0 0 0 —
Int Joe Kines 2006 1 0 1 — .000 — — — — 0 1 — — — —

 

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