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Topic: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits

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gymvol

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At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« on: October 26, 2020, 04:24:39 PM »

I read an article that said right now Pruitt is worried about keeping recruits not losing anyone.

The situation he faces is of his own making. Recruits coming into a struggling program have aspects and have probably been told they have an opportunity to compete for their position and play early.

Pruitt's problem is he's setting an example with the QB no matter how good you may be seniority gets to play.

It doesn't look good to recruits when they see JG play are probably asking the same questions fans and everyone else is why doesn't someone else get a shot?

Kids want to play and play early so when they see no move to try a different QB no matter how bad JG is doing they begin to have doubts as to whether how much chance they will have to see the field and is the coach being truthful with me?
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Re: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2020, 10:47:50 AM »
I read an article that said right now Pruitt is worried about keeping recruits not losing anyone.

The situation he faces is of his own making. Recruits coming into a struggling program have aspects and have probably been told they have an opportunity to compete for their position and play early.

Pruitt's problem is he's setting an example with the QB no matter how good you may be seniority gets to play.

It doesn't look good to recruits when they see JG play are probably asking the same questions fans and everyone else is why doesn't someone else get a shot?

Kids want to play and play early so when they see no move to try a different QB no matter how bad JG is doing they begin to have doubts as to whether how much chance they will have to see the field and is the coach being truthful with me?
They were going to loose some anyway.

A lot is going to depend on how the rest of the season plays out.

A lot of good kids still see immediate playing time. lack of practice and conditioning have kept some of last years Freshmen off the field. 

This was a 5-7 year rebuild job, the talent level was that bare, much like when Johnny came marching home.

JG is a head scratcher, at this point it is time to go with other QB's getting some playing time to build for the future. Making a bowl game is important too, so is that playing into the coaches mindset?

May be time to replace Weinke and Friend as well as coaches.

I thought I heard the announcers say we ay have a  midseason hire as DL coach. I've not read anything else and being away from Tn I do not hear the sports shows. 
 
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Re: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 03:38:16 PM »

When you're into year three it is not a rebuilding year a HC should be playing juniors he recruited except Tater Head didn't come to Tennessee early enough to recruit when he was hired.

He wanted to stay at BAMA and was allowed to do so putting us another year behind.

It was a shit show getting rid of Currie to hire Fulmer so he could make a bad hire and it's still a shit show with the results on the field reflecting it.

If Butch Jones recruits were so bad why are we still playing them especially at QB?

It excuses just as it was when Fulmer was working like heck to get better and it will continue to be excuses because it's nothing but one big political game at UT with people like Phat Phil thinking their entitled to be in charge.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 05:36:36 PM »
When you're into year three it is not a rebuilding year a HC should be playing juniors he recruited except Tater Head didn't come to Tennessee early enough to recruit when he was hired.

He wanted to stay at BAMA and was allowed to do so putting us another year behind.

It was a shit show getting rid of Currie to hire Fulmer so he could make a bad hire and it's still a shit show with the results on the field reflecting it.

If Butch Jones recruits were so bad why are we still playing them especially at QB?

It excuses just as it was when Fulmer was working like heck to get better and it will continue to be excuses because it's nothing but one big political game at UT with people like Phat Phil thinking their entitled to be in charge.
 
 I understand some of what is going on at QB. You need to keep in mind this virus affected different schools different.

He did good with his first class given the time and the cupboard is getting restocked. It takes time to restock and build depth. 

If you pay attention most of the top tier programs are playing only Jr.'s and Sr.'s very few Freshmen. We started playing a lot of them in spurts in yr 2 and some this year but lack of a camp where everybody could participate, limited S&C has hampered this year, drastically. More so than a lot of other schools. 

You are being impatient. It took Majors 7 yrs to get back to respectability and it was easier to do then.

We can not keep changing coaches every 3-4 years either. 

Everyone is disappointed and wants instant gratification, saddly lightening in a a bottle rarely happens in football.     

   

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Re: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2020, 12:35:15 AM »
if this season is a mulligan... it makes me scratch my head on the DLC being fired.  

the DL was one of the places the team wasn't hurting.  it may be the only place, actually.  The LB's do good on the run, but can't cover- and that goes for TooToo too... he's a hellacious pass rusher and a great run plugger... but he flat out sucks in coverage.  the DB's aren't helping. 

the OL is going through the motions with a bafoon at QB... seriously, the kid sucks SO bad- and the coaches are stuck to him.  i'm no longer even joking when i suggest there is a contract... it's the only thing that makes sense.  even Chaney can't do anything with it- he shifts to high percentage plays and confidnce building plays. 

the depth is an issue, but the defensive depth isn't a big an issue as... wait for it... JG.  if they had an opportunity to breath while the O is on deck, I'm thinking they'd play more than a little better. i also think the moral is under fire with him there too... 

this IS year three.. mulligan or not... and to wonder? look east at Mack Brown.  UNC didn't have the talant UT has even under bitch jonas brother... so... i ain't buying it.  what i see is a team that plays apprehensive.  scared to screw up.. unrehearsed. or, not properly prepared... distracted team? sure... but that's on the coaches too.  it's their job to maintain focus.  insofar as play- it's ALL JG... he still does shit even a freshman doesn't do.. he can throw a streak or a flag as he's throwing in front of the receiver vertically... he can't lead a horizontal receiver to save his life- he throws where the receiver is not where he's going- and that, only after staring him down since he laid hands on the ball.  he can't check.  he is clumsy with the tuck.. he started, against bama (i watched DVR late Saturday night) shoveling the ball at Gray and then pretending to be in the pocket- in some ridiculous stance feet four feet apart as if he's surveying the field... that must have been something winkee wink told him to do... i bet he congratulated him for doing it, too... meanwhile, after the first quarter all i had to do was look at the kids feet right after the snap to see where the ball was going... 

if they want recruits... if they want to compete any time soon... it's time for JG to sit or go.  i hate the kid doesn't have 'it'- but he simply doesn't.   Mauer didn't look too hot... the other kid didn't either.. but bailey showed promise.  that kid needs to take the remainder of the snaps this season by my reckoning.      

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Re: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2020, 07:43:30 AM »
UNC isn't playing in the SEC, for one thing.  They did have SOME talent previously, I think the coach ran into injuries and decided to lighten practices as a result.  That meant they were not used to game day contact and they couldn't tackle worth spit.

They were soft.  Mack changed that, and it had an immediate impact, and they got a little better than Duke and NCSU and Wake et al.  They also found a very good QB last year and he's mostly doing well this season.

We all know what a difference a gifted QB can make in football.  

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Re: At What Point Will Tennessee Start Losing Recruits
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2020, 04:44:21 PM »
if this season is a mulligan... it makes me scratch my head on the DLC being fired. 

the DL was one of the places the team wasn't hurting.  it may be the only place, actually.  The LB's do good on the run, but can't cover- and that goes for TooToo too... he's a hellacious pass rusher and a great run plugger... but he flat out sucks in coverage.  the DB's aren't helping.
Read on down in this article, it sheds some light as to why he may have been let go

https://volswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/27/bo-davis-jeremy-pruitt-tennessee-vols-football-jimmy-brumbaugh-detroit-lions-coaching-staff/?fbclid=IwAR1Cz8cdaMUdJzW9uwK1qWI28vm8Ca9EVpJb1mQjHB3elqdzRAEyi_kjEx0
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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