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Drew4UTk

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UT at UF
« on: September 11, 2017, 02:24:00 PM »


I can't stand it.... I've got to do this just to make myself feel better. 

This game has been the most important game in my eyes and leading into the seasonevery year since the early nineties.  It marks, simply, whether UT will have a shot at the title more than any other early season game.  Traditionally it lands on week 3, and this is no exception.  Usually, it kicks off with UF having two games, usually scrubs, undr their belt and UT coming off of a bye.  I always loathed that- it's my opinion early season bye's are a liability more than an asset.  It helps that UT schedules pretty good competition for week one usually, but not enough to get them over the hump.  UT, when they were contenders, ran an offense that required gelling to make impact it's design intended, and they usually weren't there by week 3 (game2). 

This time, though, the roles are flipped.  They're flipped only in that regard, however, because neither team is a real contender.  

Last season, UT beat both UGA AND UF.... and still lost the East... what the????... times are strange to be sure...

So- Florida is coming out of a chaotic scene in their homelands, after a humbling loss to Michigan, and with several players who ought to make a splash not participating in a single play.   This looks like more doom for UF from the outside, as the game is taking place as scheduled.

Tennessee has shown weakness on both fronts.  They gave up 550yards on the ground to the yellow jackets in week one, and another benji or so through the air to the same.... The next week, an Indiana State Sycamore squad penetrated into the backfield far more often than they should have been allowed.  Atop of this, the QB likes to throw in tight coverage and hasn't been penalized for this miscue yet- he won't escape UF w/o a few picks if he tries that crap with them.  

imHo, this game is going to be about defense (florida's) and special teams (UT's).  I wager 14pts to UF via pick 6's, and 14 to UT via special teams or due to special teams getting superb field position.  That is a 14up game.  

I see Kelly getting free from the UT backfield a couple times, but i DON'T see UT running wild over UF.  I just don't know what to think about UF's D yet, but I fear they will be as good as ever, and unless Calloway and Wolfe can keep things unpredictable in the passing game by getting open enough for one of those QD fearless (read: stupid) passes, i just don't see the UT O moving a lot.  I could see UT's O putting 14 on UF's D.  

UF will lean on UT's D line a lot. and, they'll find reward- but they aren't going to 'have their way' with them.  I think UF will score offensively twice during this match.  14 on 14 defensively... 28... to UT's 28... uh-oh... 

intangibles run freely on this game... a mismatch is discovered and the score is blown up hugely (making the other team- who am I fooling? making UT LOOK a LOT worse than they actually are).. a call going wonky... ball coming out just at the moment you don't need to lose possession... weird things happen in this game, and it's more than half the fun of it.  The intangibles, I wager, will NOT be 'free points' as i often like to refer to them... not in this game... the 'intangible points' will be negative points in this game- meaning they will be detracted from the board.  

game final score:

24~28 to 21~27... I don't know who wins it.  My gut tells me "Team Chaos aka the Voodoo Vols" pull out some magic dust and throw it in gator faces for the squeak-by, but my brain tells me they left that bag in Atlanta a couple weeks ago.  I don't think there will be 14 points between them- max of 10 (given no goofy breaks or discovery of a bad mismatch)... 

there... I feel better... 

I love the crap out of this game... I mean, this particular game.  


[member=58]OrangeAfroMan[/member]: what is the status of the suspended players for this game?  I think you get back the sophomore Safety, no? other than that?

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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 02:53:44 PM »
This one's got my full attention for more than one reason.  

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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 04:29:07 PM »
SEC Game of the Week I presume.

Georgia is playing their own stadium apparently. :57:





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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 10:54:06 PM »
The safety, Gardner, is coming back from injury.  He wouldn't have played last week.  Would've been nice to have a tune-up game before playing the Vols.  

There's been no update on suspended players since Sept 4, when we learned one of them was back with the team (FR WR Robinson).  He was one of the weed guys, not the money scam.

Florida is making sure none of the guys in the scam play until they're totally cleared.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 11:09:27 PM »
i read something about UF 'looking into' possible cancellation this weekend?  not good... doubt they'll consider moving it to k-ville, either.  

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 11:20:56 PM »
There's trees down and flooding all over the UF campus.  I guess it's hard to forecast evaporation rates, lol.  Game could be played in Atlanta, but not at the new joint  it'd be at GT or Turner Field (now GA State's football stadium).

They need to just play the damn game in the Swamp.  
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 08:19:58 AM »
nothing official yet... a couple outlets suggested the game was in peril, while nobody else is mentioning any threat to it whatsoever.

apparently UF's bye is on UT's 'Third Saturday in October', so that is out... UT's OOC late conflict with UF's league play and vice versa... pushing the CCG back a week may or may not be an option, but i wager there are too many things in motion involving big$$$ to pull that off...

the game just about has to be played this weekend, somewhere... I highly doubt UF will entertain moving it to Knoxville and toss the well documented series off a rotation (meaning they don't get that 'home' back)... so...

it's just curios to watch is all.  could be something, could be nothing.  

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 12:12:43 PM »
news just broke... playing this game on schedule in the swamp... 

should make things interesting, considering the field may be pretty slow... 

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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 02:23:13 PM »
Obviously, the loser in this one is 1.5 games back.  They can't both lose unfortunately.

Is South Carolina real?  I don't think so, but they are lingering.  NCSU handily out gained them as did Mizzou.

I think it's going to be between UTenn, UF, and UGA (again).  UGA doesn't really have much of an excuse for not winning the East, but to do that they have to beat Florida almost certainly.

I guess for UGA, a Tenn win is better IF UGA can beat Tenn in Kville.

I like our defense incidentally.


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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 04:43:21 PM »
Need another look at Florida's offense.  I suspect Michigan's defense will be quite good again. 

As will Florida's defense, I think. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 05:15:17 PM »
UF's D is nasty.  They hit on all eight cylinders a few times against Michigan, and enough 'flash' to let me know that once they gel, they're going to be superb.  thank lil'baby'Jesus in a tuxedo shirt we get them on their second game, with whatever issues going on that existed prior to the storm, and now after the storm just to compound their discord.  

not really. 

in all honesty, i hope the team is focused and sharp, with all their playmakers healthy and hungry.  a good win is only when you catch your opponent at their best, and still beat them.  if we can't get them at their best- then we'll take them however we can get them- and hopefully beat the snot out of 'em....

if you can't tell, i'm torn over this... not really... i hate the gators.  :91:


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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 01:20:03 PM »
I can't stand it.... I've got to do this just to make myself feel better. 

This game has been the most important game in my eyes and leading into the season every year since the early nineties.  It marks, simply, whether UT will have a shot at the title more than any other early season game.  Traditionally it lands on week 3, and this is no exception.  Usually, it kicks off with UF having two games, usually scrubs, undr their belt and UT coming off of a bye.  I always loathed that- it's my opinion early season bye's are a liability more than an asset.  It helps that UT schedules pretty good competition for week one usually, but not enough to get them over the hump.  UT, when they were contenders, ran an offense that required gelling to make impact it's design intended, and they usually weren't there by week 3 (game2). 

This time, though, the roles are flipped.  They're flipped only in that regard, however, because neither team is a real contender.  

Last season, UT beat both UGA AND UF.... and still lost the East... what the????... times are strange to be sure...

So- Florida is coming out of a chaotic scene in their homelands, after a humbling loss to Michigan, and with several players who ought to make a splash not participating in a single play.   This looks like more doom for UF from the outside, as the game is taking place as scheduled.

Tennessee has shown weakness on both fronts.  They gave up 550yards on the ground to the yellow jackets in week one, and another benji or so through the air to the same.... The next week, an Indiana State Sycamore squad penetrated into the backfield far more often than they should have been allowed.  Atop of this, the QB likes to throw in tight coverage and hasn't been penalized for this miscue yet- he won't escape UF w/o a few picks if he tries that crap with them.  

imHo, this game is going to be about defense (florida's) and special teams (UT's).  I wager 14pts to UF via pick 6's, and 14 to UT via special teams or due to special teams getting superb field position.  That is a 14up game.  

I see Kelly getting free from the UT backfield a couple times, but i DON'T see UT running wild over UF.  I just don't know what to think about UF's D yet, but I fear they will be as good as ever, and unless Calloway and Wolfe can keep things unpredictable in the passing game by getting open enough for one of those QD fearless (read: stupid) passes, i just don't see the UT O moving a lot.  I could see UT's O putting 14 on UF's D.  

UF will lean on UT's D line a lot. and, they'll find reward- but they aren't going to 'have their way' with them.  I think UF will score offensively twice during this match.  14 on 14 defensively... 28... to UT's 28... uh-oh... 

intangibles run freely on this game... a mismatch is discovered and the score is blown up hugely (making the other team- who am I fooling? making UT LOOK a LOT worse than they actually are).. a call going wonky... ball coming out just at the moment you don't need to lose possession... weird things happen in this game, and it's more than half the fun of it.  The intangibles, I wager, will NOT be 'free points' as i often like to refer to them... not in this game... the 'intangible points' will be negative points in this game- meaning they will be detracted from the board.  

game final score:

24~28 to 21~27... I don't know who wins it.  My gut tells me "Team Chaos aka the Voodoo Vols" pull out some magic dust and throw it in gator faces for the squeak-by, but my brain tells me they left that bag in Atlanta a couple weeks ago.  I don't think there will be 14 points between them- max of 10 (given no goofy breaks or discovery of a bad mismatch)... 

there... I feel better... 

I love the crap out of this game... I mean, this particular game.  

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Re: UT at UF
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 01:39:30 PM »
Barring special teams and deep turnovers, I see a lower scoring game than that.  17-13ish.  

But you say the Vols are capable of scoring on ST and you'd know better than I, so.....

I like the Gators in this one, but that could be helmet bias or recency bias talking.  My rationale is the Swamp Lizards will make life too miserable for UT up front on defense to lose.  But I freely admit I'm mostly guessing based off a one game sample size for each team, and it's a fool's errand.  

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 01:56:14 PM »
Fil-Amies, Calloway, or Berry returning is potential of 6 every single time.  they are something else.  

a few years ago, the Hurricanes came to eastern carolina to play the pirates. this was the friday after Floyd flooded the area... the game was moved to Raleigh.  the pirates were huge underdogs but ended up winning that game- and it became something for the region to latch onto about 'beating the hurricanes', not exactly discussing the 'same' type of hurricane... 

UF may be a lot more stable than it appears they are- and what Florida is going through may be enough for them to really come together and focus. if so, that spells trouble for UT. but.... the gator's have some sort of team issue going on nearing the point to where people are about to start accusing 'lack of institutional control'... 

^ these things play major roles at the college level is my firm opinion.  if it were professionals we were discussing, this game would be a LOT harder to penetrate and make any kind of assessment you wouldn't be embarrassed to share with the world. 

 

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