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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #84 on: October 16, 2024, 03:26:32 PM »
Paul Thompson, out of Leander, TX, was a good athlete with a good arm. He was the backup QB in 2002, 2003, and 2004. (I think he red-shirted the 2002 season.)
He was the starter for the 2005 season opener against TCU. The 2005 Sooners were not up to the standards of the 2000-04 teams. They played poorly and got beaten by TCU. Thompson struggled at QB. The next week, hosting Tulsa, Rhett Bomar, star of Grand Prairie, TX, started, while Thompson switched to WR. He seemed to provide a spark that Thompson hadn't. He started the rest of the year. We went 8-3 after the opening loss, with losses at UCLA and (badly) in the RRS. Bomar had a high jackass quotient, and his stats weren't all that great, but he was---IIRC--the MVP of the Holiday Bowl win over Oregon. He was the presumptive starter looking forward to the 2006 season.
But his pay-for-no-work job was exposed (by a Texas A&M fan or player, I think), and he and a lineman getting the same sweet deal were booted from the program.

Paul Thompson came back to QB the team in 2006, going 11-3, winning the Big 12, but losing to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.
I remember the great Scipio Tex on the Shaggy Bevo (?) message board had as his signature something like "Bob Stoops won the Big 12 with some spit, a band-aid, and a Paul Thompson bobble-head doll."
Thanks for filling in the details.  2006 I think is the year that really hurt for A&M fans, because we were close in a couple of games, and could have won the Big 12, but came up just short.  OU being one of the games that really hurt, because we were in position to win and our dumbass coach didn't know how to use our jumbo fullback, Jorvorskie Lane.  I think we ended up beating Texas in the last game, 12-7, and knocked them out of the Big 12 CCG, and let OU in.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2024, 10:47:24 AM »
I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3.

After beating Ole Miss (and winning 5 straight), 9-3 is certainly much more realistic for LSU. Win one of their next two, either @Arkansas or @A&M. Then go 3-1 Vs Alabama, @Florida, Vs Vandy, Vs Oklahoma. Certainly doable.

Was looking at other SEC schedules, and 4-2 Oklahoma is at a point where the rest of their conference games could go either way. Would finishing 8-4 amount to a favorable showing for the Sooners for their inaugural season in the SEC? I do, but am not betting Oklahoma's diehards will. They already seem on the fence about Brent Venables, and getting blasted by Texas last Saturday sure doesn't help. Venables is currently 20-12 at Oklahoma.


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« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2024, 11:17:05 AM »
I hope they sign Venables to a 20 year contract extension. :)

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2024, 11:31:31 AM »
The Dawgs could end up 10-2, which is about what I expected.  And 9-3 is certainly in the picture.  8-4 would have hay forks out in Athens.


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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2024, 11:32:25 AM »
Bama at Tenn is certainly an interesting test for both teams this weekend.  A loss for either, which will happen of course, will be somewhat season ending relative to their hopes.  Bama may be weirder than UGA, I'd argue they are.

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2024, 06:27:45 PM »
I hope they sign Venables to a 20 year contract extension. :)
We gave him a 6-year extension after last season's relative success. I think his buyout is around $44 million.   :banghead:


The 2 Co-OCs will be gone at the end of the season, if not earlier than that.
I wouldn't be surprised if our OL coach gets the boot too. He produced great lines in the late 2010s, but he's been coasting the last 3-4 years.
Meanwhile, Dillon Gabriel, the QB who engineered the comeback victory in last year's RRS, who left to make way for the anointed Jackson Arnold, is leading the currently #1-in-all-the-land Oregon Ducks.  :banghead:

 This is not a case of "not ready for the SEC." It's much worse than that. This year's OU team would be struggling floundering in the Big 12. We barely beat Houston 16-12. It's even possible that we could lose to Maine.

Here's a damning but accurate assessment from Shehan Jeyarajah: 
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/oklahoma-hired-brent-venables-to-get-sooners-sec-ready-but-theyre-scraping-bottom-of-league-in-debut/
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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2024, 06:38:33 PM »
Thanks for filling in the details.  2006 I think is the year that really hurt for A&M fans, because we were close in a couple of games, and could have won the Big 12, but came up just short.  OU being one of the games that really hurt, because we were in position to win and our dumbass coach didn't know how to use our jumbo fullback, Jorvorskie Lane.  I think we ended up beating Texas in the last game, 12-7, and knocked them out of the Big 12 CCG, and let OU in.
My brother and I were at the OU-A&M game in College Station. The Aggie fans we met were great. We got invited to--and attended--yell practice. That game started like it was going to be an OU blowout, but after quickly going up 10-0, we tried and failed to convert an onside kick. The Aggies scored on that possession (a TD, I think) and it was a nail-biter from that point on. Trying to run out the clock with a 17-16 lead, we converted a 4th-down play at about our own 35 to seal the game. Leaving the game, Aggie fans were complementary of Bob Stoops for that 4th-down call. They grumbled that Dennis Franchione would not have made that call.
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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2024, 11:13:14 PM »
So LSU and A&M play this weekend for sole possession of the top SEC ranking.

While most would probably agree UGA and Texas are the best teams in the conference, and maybe a couple others between them and the Tigers/Aggies.

This is such a weird conference now. 

I guess it will sort itself out in the end.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #92 on: October 22, 2024, 08:18:03 AM »
So LSU and A&M play this weekend for sole possession of the top SEC ranking.

While most would probably agree UGA and Texas are the best teams in the conference, and maybe a couple others between them and the Tigers/Aggies.

This is such a weird conference now. 

I guess it will sort itself out in the end. 
Usually does.  But with no divisions and the potential for multiple 1-loss teams at the top, it might not be pretty.

2008 B12 South tie-breaker nightmare comes to mind...

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #93 on: October 22, 2024, 08:41:40 AM »
My GUESS is there will be one one loss team and several (like 3+) two loss teams.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #94 on: October 22, 2024, 09:02:43 AM »

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #95 on: October 22, 2024, 09:43:22 AM »
If Texas' previous luck holds, there'll be a big jumbly mish-mash of numbers and data to dice through. At the end of it, the Oklahoma Sooners will be named SEC champion for reasons.

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #96 on: October 22, 2024, 09:48:12 AM »
Usually does.  But with no divisions and the potential for multiple 1-loss teams at the top, it might not be pretty.

2008 B12 South tie-breaker nightmare comes to mind...
2010 for A&M.  

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« Reply #97 on: October 22, 2024, 09:54:18 AM »
If Texas' previous luck holds, there'll be a big jumbly mish-mash of numbers and data to dice through. At the end of it, the Oklahoma Sooners will be named SEC champion for reasons.
Too soon!

 

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