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bamajoe

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LSU-Mississippi State
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:51:37 PM »
Why is this game being ignored? I'm not convinced that this game is less important than Tennessee-Florida. Both would be underdogs if they traveled to Starkville. I think LSU is slightly better than State but the home field makes this a toss up.

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 10:04:15 AM »
I know nuthin' of value about Msst this year.... what is their strength, Joe?  Do you really think they're better than UTk and/or UF?  can you give an example? 

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 02:16:15 PM »
Their strength is QB Nick Fitzgerald.  Good runner, can be a good passer in the right circumstances.  I haven't watched any of their games because their schedule has been worse than ours so far, so I don't know much else of value either.  There's reason to think their defensive front is very good.  

The main reason I have a hard time taking this game seriously is LSU has lost this game twice in the last 25 years.  And really, if instant replay had been a thing in 1999, LSU would've won that one also.  The Fighting Daks whacked us in 2014, with a senior laden team and us with a(nother) very young team.  That's basically it for the entire span of my life I've paid attention to LSU football.  I've seen years where LSU played like utter turd, and Clanga was determined to play worse.  I've seen games where Moo State was legitimately the better team, and we still found ways to win.  Mostly I've seen an uncanny uniformity between the ratio of talent and wins in this series.  Law of averages almost demands that the less talented team win sometime....in this series, they just haven't.  

So in 2014 when they won, it was very surreal.  It's like it didn't register.  It had been a decade and a half since we'd seen it, and nearly a decade before THAT.  And like I said, under today's replay rules, LSU would've won the '99 game as well.  I don't know anybody who really cared.  We get mad and call for the coach's head when we lose to Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss, heck, even Arkansas sometimes.  There wasn't even any anger attached to losing to Hail Steak.  More like "Huh.  Well I'll be.  Okay, what's on next?"

Of course this is a terrible reason to assume anything about THIS year.  And in my brain, I don't.  But honestly, LSU fans have forgotten how to worry about this game.  It's just not in us.  

I really do suspect LSU is the better team and will win an ugly game.  I predict Clanga will land some early shots, our defense will adjust, Fitzgerald will stay penned up and won't be able to win the game from the pocket.  Our offense will struggle against their front, but will eventually do just enough.  We're favored by 7, and that sounds about right to me.  

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 02:31:45 PM »
i really haven't paid attention since Joe Lee Dunn's 44/46 hybrid Defense prowled about.  they were vicious, and I've always had deep respect for a 44 and a 46... it was hybrid because of the size/speed of the outside LB's who could easily have been considered a DB... it allowed a shift that resembled a strong/weak side 34, a up-n-up 44, a 46, or a nickel depending on how they adjusted.   Jackie Sherrill was a good HC and drug those fellas out of the trench of the SEC West abyss 'of that era'... between Sherrill's stoic personality, and joe lee dunn's sockless antics, i really enjoyed watching them play.  since then, i've paid little to no attention unless they were playing someone i did give a hoot about.  

MikeDeTiger

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 03:15:48 PM »
Honestly, that's how we feel about 'em too.  And we're in the same division.  

I can't explain it, but they are just a black hole for our fan base's interest.  

I'd guess if they started beating us with some regularity that would probably change.  

Yes, I realize I'm jinxing the hell out of this.  

bamajoe

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 03:58:11 PM »
The reason I believe either Florida or Tennessee would be underdogs at Starkville is because simply Miss State has played better this year than both Florida and Tennessee. I know State's competition has been less but they have actually executed on both sides of the ball. Florida was awful against Michigan and almost always lose for some reason when they play in Mississippi. Tennessee gave up 600 yards on the ground against Georgia Tech and I don't think Tennessee could stop Fitzgerald. I didn't say State had a better team but they have an experienced and effective qb. Neither Tennessee or Florida has shown much so far.

I think LSU will have a hard time against State. Fitzgerald will be hard for LSU and all their inexperienced freshmen to contain. I don't think this is a typical LSU team. I don't like LSU'S depth and experience and you aren't going to win big with Etling at QB. This is a close game going deep into the 4th quarter.

Maybe I'm beau coup dinky dau.


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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 05:13:11 PM »
LOLZ.  

LSU has won with much, much, much worse QBs than Etling.  A lot.  

Drew4UTk

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 05:28:32 PM »
wel, one thing has happened... now i feel the need to watch MissSt (love how that rolls off the tongue... "misssssed")...

in all seriousness, I don't doubt you, Joe, of all people.  And it has my attention now... I reckon i need to study up on them. 

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 09:33:16 AM »
UGA plays MSU next week in Athens, so this is of interest to Dawg fans (the real ones).

UGA also plays at LSU next year. :86:

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 02:49:12 PM »
After seeking wisdom from what few Steak fans I could find, here's what I believe will be the crucial matchup:  MSU's defensive front vs. LSU's OL.  We are thin there, so we can't afford injuries.  There is also some youth there, so how will they stand up to a stout front?  If LSU can't answer that positively, it'll be a long day for the Tigers.  If they can, LSU probably wins and covers.  

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 10:06:28 PM »
As to the OP, this game is overlooked because, unlike TN/Fla, it has no impact on the division.  Ergo, nobody cares.  

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2017, 09:03:19 AM »
Really? If LSU loses it would have no effect on the League? I heartily disagree. If LSU loses it would have a significant effect as they would be a game behind Alabama and Auburn already and would probably be eliminated from any chance to play in the play offs.

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2017, 02:12:49 PM »
If LSU wins or loses it has no bearing on the division winner.  Everyone knows that, though it's adorable that you pretend to miss the point

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Re: LSU-Mississippi State
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2017, 10:33:43 PM »
dayum.... time to watch Miss St a LOT more often.   that was stupid... 

 

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