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Topic: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992

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OrangeAfroMan

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Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« on: July 04, 2020, 06:11:32 AM »
Since 1992:
Alabama over Tennessee (.649), 17-10-1
Arkansas over Carolina (.528), 13-10
Georgia over Auburn (.670), 17-11-1
Florida over LSU (.700), 16-12
Miss State over Kentucky (.429), 18-10
Ole Miss over Vanderbilt (.348), 18-10
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Since 2014:
*Missouri over Arkansas (.400), 5-1
*A&M over Carolina (.474), 6-0
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2020, 06:20:38 AM »
What's the point of this thread?  Just showing how crappy it's been for 2 teams arbitrarily thrown together.  
The matchups in bold are the 2 games holding the rest of the conference hostage.  And good on them, those are the 2nd and 3rd-toughest cross-division opponents since division play began.

But Florida was randomly tasked with playing a school 3 states over, who's been the toughest opponent, when looking at it from those teams with the advantage thus far.  Yeah, that stinks.

But let's look at it from the angle of those behind at the moment:
Alabama (.718) over Tennessee, 17-10-1
Arkansas (.515) over Carolina, 13-10
Georgia (.719) over Auburn, 17-11-1
Florida (.737) over LSU, 16-12
Miss State (.509) over Kentucky, 18-10
Ole Miss (.522) over Vanderbilt, 18-10

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Well damn, we see again - the precious matchups have the 2nd and 3rd-toughest programs to overcome.  And LSU, minding its business, get saddled with playing the top program since '92.  Because...why?  
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2020, 08:52:54 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 04, 2020, 06:11:32 AM

Florida over LSU (.700), 16-12
I think that percentage is more like 57%, if it matters.  Maybe the .700 pertains to something else?
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2020, 08:55:52 AM »
I think some of these obviously have historical meaning, and the rest just fell out however it happened.
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 09:26:09 AM »
I wonder who would be more tenable opponents for Florida and LSU? Geographically the two nearest opponents for Florida would be Auburn and Alabama. If you are looking for a softer opponent I don't think that would solve be it. The only reasonably close opponent for LSU would be Vandy and I don't think LSU wants to play Vandy every year.
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2020, 12:06:11 PM »
Maybe his proposed solution is to do away with all pairings, or all but two pairings, don't know.

The six teams paired are the six teams usually winning the SEC, so there is that.  Has any team outside those 6 won the CG since it started?

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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2020, 03:22:33 PM »
Tennessee won it on 1997, I think.
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2020, 03:25:42 PM »
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/history/championship/sec/

The vols won it twice.  Only these six teams have ever won the CFB SEC CG.

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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2020, 05:08:43 PM »
Prior to 1992 the schools, of course, made out their own schedules. With no guns to their head the ADs at LSU and UF scheduled each other, with the exception of 1968, 1969, and 1970, EVERY year from 1953 to 1991. So with them playing 36 of the previous 39 years and UF holding a slight 17-16-3 edge, whatever in Hell made the SEC think that was a rivalry?

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1953&end=1991&team1=Florida&team2=LouisianaState
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2020, 06:09:19 PM »
Seems like a reasonable crossover to me, if we have them at all.

Tennessee gets the real shaft in this thing.
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2020, 06:55:34 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 04, 2020, 06:09:19 PM
Seems like a reasonable crossover to me, if we have them at all.

Tennessee gets the real shaft in this thing.
From 1992-2006, Tennessee was 10-4-1. Rest assured nobody was saying then that Bama was getting the shaft.


http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1992&end=2006&team1=Tennessee&team2=Alabama
« Last Edit: July 04, 2020, 07:01:06 PM by ALA2262 »
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2020, 07:23:37 PM »
TSIO is 17-10-1 and DSOR is 16-11-1 in regular season games. Which is what the discussion is about. Is Auburn also getting the shaft?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2020, 07:30:39 PM by ALA2262 »
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2020, 10:14:46 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 04, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
I think that percentage is more like 57%, if it matters.  Maybe the .700 pertains to something else?
No, they have to play a .700 level team.  The win% in the parenthesis are from their overall record from 1992-2019.
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Re: Cross-Division Rival, Since 1992
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2020, 10:15:32 PM »
Quote from: ALA2262 on July 04, 2020, 07:23:37 PM
TSIO is 17-10-1 and DSOR is 16-11-1 in regular season games. Which is what the discussion is about. Is Auburn also getting the shaft?
Auburn is not getting the shaft, as they're one of the culprits.  
ALA, UGA, AUB, UTK hold the rest of the conference hostage.
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