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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on September 22, 2018, 07:22:23 AM
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It's been a long time since 1997. I graduated high school, then went off to college. I didn't even really follow football that much, but a kid from Michigan was all excited all year. Charles Woodson, he said, all the time. Looking back, the Big Ten was pretty solid, too, with an Andy Katzenmoyer led Buckeye team. Mike McQueary (yep) was quarterbacking Penn State and handing off to Curtis Enis. Purdue was full on Joe Tiller, and Iowa still had Hayden Fry. Michigan beat them all.
Of course, a not yet B1G Nebraska, led by Scott Frost, stole some of Michigan's thunder that year, just one year before the BCS would unite college football under a ring of cash. It might have been the last real year of of what we consider old school college football.
In any event, my daughter has a soccer game in the middle of nowhere today so I might be sparse.
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Lineup:
Noon
Nebraska @ Michigan - FS1
Boston College @ Purdue - ESPN2
Buffalo @ Rutgers - BTN
Minnesota @ Maryland - BTN
3:30
Tulane @ OSU - BTN
7:30
MSU @ Indiana - BTN
8:35
Wisconsin @ Iowa - FOX
Others I might watch
ND @ Wake Forest - Noon, ABC
Texas A&M @ Alabama, 3:30, CBS
TCU @ Texas, 4:35, FOX
Stanford @ Oregon, 8 pm, ABC
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Saw Ozzy last night. For a "70 year old f**k" (his words), he did pretty well. But I went to see Ozzy and a Zack Wilde concert broke out. Not that this is a bad thing - the dood can absolutely rip on a guitar. Lots of solos and instrumentals - Ozzy sang for maybe an hour total in the 90 minute show (including encore).
He could still sing the songs he selected, but left out some of the favorites (high notes and all that).
All in all, not a bad show, but given that I've seen him about 12 times over the years, this one was a little bit of a letdown.
No More Tours 2. We'll see. I saw No More Tours back in 1994 or whatever. Maybe I'll see him again in 2042?
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I saw him a lot in the late 90s/early 2000s when he was doing the Sabbath reunion, and he was having a lot of problems with his voice even back then. I can only imagine what it's like now.
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Somehow, some way, it was better. But, as I said, there were no "high note" songs. The only one he managed in that regard was Crazy Train, which was the last song of the set.
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I think I should also add my Ozzy writeup to the Michigan and Nebraska thread. It fits, in a has-been sorta way.
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So, if I read it write, sounds like The Fighting Lovies punched PSU in the mouth last night, ran out of gas and got the Franklin Treatment in the 4th quarter (35 points)?
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Pretty much.
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My team's volleyball matches overlap the early window. I assume I'll miss some dandy turnovers. 330 is a little thin today.
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That 97 Michigan team is probably lucky it didn't play Nebraska. UM's strength was pass D, and UNL didn't pass much.
I'm also going to a kid's soccer games today, then helping a co-worker with a table alteration. Fun stuff. Gotta be finished by the time Florida kicks off, though.
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big game for the gators
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I think I should also add my Ozzy writeup to the Michigan and Nebraska thread. It fits, in a has-been sorta way.
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Urban's clips make another appearance on Gameday
he made an error
he can't square it
he was devastated by the firm harsh suspension
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I remember my wife getting tickets for Steely Dan about five years ago. I had seen them a handful of times between 1994 and then, usually fantastic. At this point though Walter Becker (who has since passed) was wearing sweatpants. Fagan was fine but I was like 'no more old fogey tours' for me.
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So you're not attending anymore shows where performers are your age ?
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With a lot of these guys it's amazing how quickly it hits. I saw one of the best shows and one of the worst within about 3 years of each other, and both were Clapton.
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1997. That is a year I have not heard in a long, long time.
My kids were 11 and 9, a pretty good age overall. I was working of course. My job at that point was "OK" as I recall. I still had a good boss which helped, until he left. We had some nice vacations, I don't recall when and where, just generally. One of the best was going to a dude ranch in WY, that was really nice.
That was year two of the Donnan era at UGA, and was the best of that era. They got clobbered at Tenn and lost to Auburn at home. They had Mike Bobo at QB and Hines Ward and Robert Edwards and Champ Bailey, so they had some talent.
Donnan was a boring coach though, and his next years led to his dismissal due to mediocrity and losing to the main rivals.
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So you're not attending anymore shows where performers are your age ?
Ed Zachery
especially at today's prices
I saw everyone a wanted to see a couple decades ago when they were much closer to their primes
I didn't get to see Zepplin, but if they were all alive today, I wouldn't make the trip
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1997 - a busy time in my life
Obviously Husker football was at its pinnacle. I had attended the Husker bowl games after the 93, 94, & 95 seasons, so I didn't go to the Orange Bowl vs Tennessee.
My career was really taking off. But, I was working on-site out of town. Watched the Flea-kicker vs Mizzou in a hotel room.
My daughters were 1 and 3. My wife wasn't happy about me being on the road out of town with work. I started my current job to be able to stay home and hopefully save my marriage. It's 20 years later and I've been able to raise my daughters and be a decent Father.
December of 97 was my first time time on the internet. I found college football fan boards at CNN/SI. Was looking to network with other Husker fans. It was fabulous. I was met by the Notorious King of Trash and passionate arrogant Michigan fans. Good times. Can't imagine what my life would be like without the friendships I've found on these message boards.
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Sorry bro. It was more intended as a Michigan zinger. ;)
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It's not really a shock that my years have sort of merged into a vague notional recounting of events.
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Sorry bro. It was more intended as a Michigan zinger. ;)
BS, but don't worry, you know I can take it
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Wife and I went to the Improv to see Joel McHale last night. Decent show, and he was funny, but I wasn't blown away.
Got home fired up the smoker with 16# of pork shoulder... Taking it to a birthday party today, so I'll miss the middle slate of games.
But at least I'll be able to catch Purdue this morning.
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It's been a long time since 1997. I graduated high school, then went off to college.
Huh. Thought you were a bit older. I’m a 98er. Been a long time since high school. The world looks very different wouldn’t ya say?
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So, if I read it write, sounds like The Fighting Lovies punched PSU in the mouth last night, ran out of gas and got the Franklin Treatment in the 4th quarter (35 points)?
I only watched a little of the game but I was checking scores and it was even worse than that. 36 minutes into the game the Illini were ahead 24-21. Then Penn State scored SIX unanswered TD's in a span of 23:36 to win by a quite respectable 63-24.
In assessing PSU's performance I'm not sure if I should credit them for being able to score 42 points rapidly or ding them for needing a late avalanche to achieve a respectable win over the Illini.
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I'd ding them
I did watch the 2nd half
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Love the "Animal House" stuff on Gameday
usually nothing this interesting on this early
but, I graduated high school in 81
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Love the "Animal House" stuff on Gameday
They took it too far... Got boring and corny.
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At a lively tailgate waitin for a 3:30pm kickoff. In the meantime, two TVs going. Got on Neb-Mich and the Notre Dame game.
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Wow, not a good start for Frost.
Mistakes, No O, No D. 14 point hole.
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And I'm over to BTN for the Maryland, Minnesota game.
Hoping it's better than the M*ch vs. High School game on FS1
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December of 97 was my first time time on the internet. I found college football fan boards at CNN/SI. Was looking to network with other Husker fans. It was fabulous. I was met by the Notorious King of Trash and passionate arrogant Michigan fans. Good times. Can't imagine what my life would be like without the friendships I've found on these message boards.
Eerily coincides with the emergence of the Husker Prick Squad,94 has long suspected you of being an agent provocteur affiliated with
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Saw a replay of a Mizzou "fumble" vs. UGA. The receiver is hit by two defenders, driven about three yards back, and then the ball is stripped and returned for a TD...
If there was a point at which a play should be called dead due to lack of forward progress, that was it. Terrible officiating.
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Purdue takes 7-0 lead. Almost allowed BC to tie it up on a 3rd down, called back for a blatant--but unnecessary as the defender probably couldn't have made a play--hold. Thought to myself "hey, maybe we can get a stop here."
Then on 3rd and 14 from the 15 yard line, can't cover a TE on a seam route. As usual, Purdue can't cover.
7-7.
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What in the actual F was that play calling series right there for Mich?
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Ambry Thomas is an unbelievable athlete. He reminds me of Ted Ginn Jr.
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Urban's clips make another appearance on Gameday
he made an error
he can't square it
he was devastated by the firm harsh suspension
Kinda brings a tear to your eye doesn't it?
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Sure looked like PI on Nebraska right there to me. Defender basically tackled Oliver Martin before the ball even got there.
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Quinn Nordin has a monster leg. That thing looked good from 60.
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Purdue scores again on a 70 yard reception by Rondale Moore. It was just a simple slant, the DB didn't wrap up and Moore reversed field, and then it was off to the races. You ain't catching Moore.
Evans misses the PAT. Boilers up 13-7, and just forced a 3 and out to get the ball back.
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Nebraska just completely overwhelmed. Only weakness displaying on Michigan’s side is their OL, particularly the left side of their OL can’t hold their blocks. Patterson playing fantastic. And the playcalling has finally loosened up.
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Kinda feel sorry for the Nebraska players. They are just getting their asses whipped all up and down that field.
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Purdue bottling up BC's offense so far.
And Moore, again, doing it all. Good PR to get good field position, and then on 1st-and-goal takes a little out route, breaks a tackle, and waltzes into the end zone.
Evans replaced by Dellinger as PK, and Dellinger makes the XP.
20-7 Boilers.
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Aidan Hutchinson just caused a safety.
Kid looks pretty damn good for a true freshman.
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Looks like Rutgers has given up
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This Nebraska play is kind of weird. Like, if a receiver did that, would it be a catch?
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Bad run fits and tackling. This season will be worst than last year's.
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It's a fall saturday afternoon in America - get their blasphemous sorry soccer asses off of NBC,not that I want to watch ND but just sayin'
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Nice grab by that Pitt WR ,inside the 5.Pitt follows it up with a TD,Pitt up 28-21 over UNC
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It's a fall saturday afternoon in America - get their blasphemous sorry soccer asses off of NBC,not that I want to watch ND but just sayin'
Yah. What the h3ll?
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Will Hart is now *crushing* punts, apparently
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I am really enjoying this Boilermaker performance, and not just because I picked them in the elimination pool.
I like this coach and love what he is doing for that program.
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Dang, I think Bunch's patella flipped to the side on his first play in an attempt to sit Martinez for the game
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This BC game reminds me a lot of the Purdue/Mizzou game last year. Where you're just watching it, and watching it, and watching it, wondering "where the heck did *THIS* come from?"
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And now Purdue with their second INT of the day on passes batted up at the line.
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Purdue tried to run the ball and burn clock, ended up in 3rd and long, then turned it over.
BC making use of the momentum so far. Purdue seems to be playing off to avoid the big play, and BC's offense is too good to do that, even with 1:30 left in the 3rd and up 23.
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Of course, an interception in the end zone helps keep the score right :)
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Defense playing off the charts today!
I luv it
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UNL with a FG to end the shutout. Shutouts look bad, but I will always think that teams should try to convert on 4th down when being blown out. Kicking a FG, unlike trying for a TD, is like giving up.
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Dylan McCaffery with a 75-y TD RUN called because Oliver Martin had a good block?
I really didn't think that was in the solar system of holding.
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Purdue with an apparent third down conversion on a Blough keeper at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Refs wait until after the commercial break is over, then spend 2 minutes reviewing the play to overturn it.
Now, I don't quibble with that call. Blough looked a bit short of the 1st live, so I think overturning it is right.
But WHY in the world would you wait until after the 3 minute commercial break to review it? Shouldn't you review that while we're at commercial?
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Oh well. Purdue got a pick, and has the ball again. The punt and INT made a nice swap in the field position battle lol...
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Oh well. Purdue got a pick, and has the ball again. The punt and INT made a nice swap in the field position battle lol...
They are stifling BCs offense.
Love it!
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Looks like Notre Dame found a quarterback
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Purdue misses a chip shot with the ability to go up 33-7.
Our kickers suck.
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That was definitely the right call (facemask) but I severely dislike the precedent of a ref not throwing the flag until after it goes up on the big screen and everyone is angry.
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Barnes has really stepped up at LB for Purdue
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true frosh WR Ronnie Bell with a TD! Bell was a 2* recruit that was committed to play basketball at Missouri State until Harbaugh offered him.
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Barnes has really stepped up at LB for Purdue
Seems like a completely different defense from the last 3 weeks.
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Seems like a completely different defense from the last 3 weeks.
Seems like a completely different defense from the last 3 weeks.
A team that lose 3 games by a total of 7 points. Backs to the wall, good coach.
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With Rashan Gary sitting from the middle of the 2nd quarter on (almost certainly as a luxury, not injury), I gotta say:
Perhaps the biggest development in this game is how Kwity Paye looks as a back-up. He can be great.
Love those kids from the northeast who are only "diamonds in the rough" because almost no one except Don Brown recruits there.
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true frosh WR Ronnie Bell with a TD! Bell was a 2* recruit that was committed to play basketball at Missouri State until Harbaugh offered him.
He has the right size and speed.
I will admit to being shocked by how much Harbaugh has been getting out of his low-star rating guys.
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Guh, that would have been a safety if not for the uncalled hold. InsteadL: 22y gain. Guh
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Well done Boilers!
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He has the right size and speed.
I will admit to being shocked by how much Harbaugh has been getting out of his low-star rating guys.
Why? That's what he did in Palo Alto for the most part, no?
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Missouri blocks a UGA FG attempt. Keep hanging around. 40-29 with 6:14 to go.
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That's the cost of giving 4th and 5th stringers this many reps. UNL with a TD drive. Bummer.
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Saw Ozzy last night. For a "70 year old f**k" (his words), he did pretty well. But I went to see Ozzy and a Zack Wilde concert broke out. Not that this is a bad thing - the dood can absolutely rip on a guitar. Lots of solos and instrumentals - Ozzy sang for maybe an hour total in the 90 minute show (including encore).
He could still sing the songs he selected, but left out some of the favorites (high notes and all that).
All in all, not a bad show, but given that I've seen him about 12 times over the years, this one was a little bit of a letdown.
No More Tours 2. We'll see. I saw No More Tours back in 1994 or whatever. Maybe I'll see him again in 2042?
LOL. Never met you. Really know nothing about you. But in the 15 or so years I’ve been posting on this forum and interacting with you I’d never imagine you would go to an Ozzy concert, let alone multiple ones. That truly surprised me. LOL.
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LOL. Never met you. Really know nothing about you. But in the 15 or so years I’ve been posting on this forum and interacting with you I’d never imagine you would go to an Ozzy concert, let alone multiple ones. That truly surprised me. LOL.
15.. 17 pal. 17.
And yeah, I'm an eclectic sort. I play guitar, keyboards and drums. Earing. And yeah, I'm an engineer too.
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15.. 17 pal. 17.
And yeah, I'm an eclectic sort. I play guitar, keyboards and drums. Earing. And yeah, I'm an engineer too.
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Everyone knows he is a badass. Works his ass off, lives on a boat half time. Damn.
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15.. 17 pal. 17.
And yeah, I'm an eclectic sort. I play guitar, keyboards and drums. Earing. And yeah, I'm an engineer too.
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Whoa, back up...earing?
Lol. I have to echo Kris, I would have never guessed!
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Aaannnddd... former Badger committ, and Buckeye player, Antonio Williams leads UNC to a win over Pitt.
Another hit in my upset picks
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Come to a board meeting sometime. Heh.
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Seems like a completely different defense from the last 3 weeks.
Yep, and now Im optimistic about 3-3 heading into the tOSU game.
Life as a Boiler fan is not easy.
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Another typical performance for WVU so far when they play K-State. 2 possessions. 2 turnovers. FML.
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Fickel's Bearcats had a comeback win over Solich's Bobcats.
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Any good games today? Finally got home from vball. ~???
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Michigan - Nebraska was a real nail biter. Instant classic. You should go watch it!
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I like how YES network has Baylor at Iowa st. Vball on
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Michigan - Nebraska was a real nail biter. Instant classic. You should go watch it!
That's just plain mean man.
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Texas A&M forcing Alabama to actually try
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Glad I taped it on VHS . Don't tell me about it
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Aggies had a real 99yd drive
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Kansas building on all that momentum by trailing Baylor 17-0
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Blew their wad last 2 weeks.
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Writing probably on the wall for Narduzzi at Pitt now. Inherited a couple good classes that were built on the back of the PSU sanctions, but there are zero signs of improvement.
Speaking of ACC hot seats, I'm guessing this is finally the end for Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech.
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Buffalo 42
Rutgers 13 jeebis
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Writing probably on the wall for Narduzzi at Pitt now. Inherited a couple good classes that were built on the back of the PSU sanctions, but there are zero signs of improvement.
Speaking of ACC hot seats, I'm guessing this is finally the end for Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech.
He has this weird history at Pitt of losing embarrassing games ... and then upsetting Top 10 teams.
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Texas A&M can't get away with settling for 3
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Clemson needs to stick w Lawrence me thinks.
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That Virginia win is looking better and better for Indiana.
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15.. 17 pal. 17.
And yeah, I'm an eclectic sort. I play guitar, keyboards and drums. Earing. And yeah, I'm an engineer too.
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Dude. I'm very surprised. That's great.
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Yeah, uva isn't bad w Perkins .
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Dude. I'm very surprised. That's great.
Kinda funny how this online shit works. I guess I take it for granted that we "know" one another.
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Buffalo 42
Rutgers 13 jeebis
Time to end the experiment. It ain't working.
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Halftime at this Virginia Tech Vs Old Dominion game. Tied 14-14. Hokies not at all playing like a ranked team. ODU dictating the last few drives.
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Time to end the experiment. It ain't working.
Sadly impossible. Delany was a TV contract junky on a bender. Rutgers fleeced us. And it's forever. But at least when we look back in 2030 or so, we'll have had maybe a decade of extra dollars because of them. Sigh.
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Sadly impossible. Delany was a TV contract junky on a bender. Rutgers fleeced us. And it's forever. But at least when we look back in 2030 or so, we'll have had maybe a decade of extra dollars because of them. Sigh.
THIS is the kind of shit that will ruin our game we love. Precisely THIS.
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Time to end the experiment. It ain't working.
Well Buffalo is 4-0 and AAU to boot.Big Jim got stoopid greedy thinking he got the BIG footprint around the Big Apple.Instead it resembles claw marks
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Just got GREAT news. As most of you know I sold my house that I love, due to the "climate" in Illinois. Well, we need to stay here for a few more years, and today, we got the rental we wanted.
Still in the quaint downtown area we love and a gorgeous place with a huge outdoor space for my outdoor kitchen. And speaking of kitchens.. This one has a great setup. Wolf range, Sub Zero, Bosch, etc.
I'm a happy guy. Worth staying home from the harbor today after all!!
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Good on you - were the old digs near Downtown?
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Good on you - were the old digs near Downtown?
Yep, downtown Palatine, IL.
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Scary situation in the Bama game. guys crashed into a security guy on the end zone sideline. Player and security guy both hurt now.
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ODU and VT tied up in the 3rd. Saw that game is at ODU. Strange.
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Fire Marshall would stop game if he saw how jammed stands are
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Just got GREAT news. As most of you know I sold my house that I love, due to the "climate" in Illinois. Well, we need to stay here for a few more years, and today, we got the rental we wanted.
Still in the quaint downtown area we love and a gorgeous place with a huge outdoor space for my outdoor kitchen. And speaking of kitchens.. This one has a great setup. Wolf range, Sub Zero, Bosch, etc.
I'm a happy guy. Worth staying home from the harbor today after all!!
Sweet! I am using my outdoor kitchen as we speak.
So, after these few years-where will this better climate be?
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ODU and VT tied up in the 3rd. Saw that game is at ODU. Strange.
ACC programs love 1 for 1 series with ODU because they recruit the Norfolk/Va Beach metro area so heavily. Last season ODU hosted North Carolina and the season before NC St.
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Better "climate" will be Punta Gorda in the winter (6 months and a day) and Kenosha on the boat in the summer.
Both are better "climates" in more ways than one.
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Alabama was always scary. Now they just look, I don't know, ridiculously scary with Tua. He is by far the best QB they have ever had. The OL is typical Bama. And I also think the WR's and RB's are probably the best all-around that Bama has ever had.
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Better "climate" will be Punta Gorda in the winter (6 months and a day) and Kenosha on the boat in the summer.
Both are better "climates" in more ways than one.
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Excellent. When I head across to see my brother ( about a 2.5 hour drive), we can connect for a couple cold ones.
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Good to hear Badge. We're still a solid six to 9 mos. Before the house is done
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ODU and VT tied at 28 in the 4th and Josh Jackson just got carted off with an ankle injury. ODU ball.
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Halftime at this Virginia Tech Vs Old Dominion game. Tied 14-14. Hokies not at all playing like a ranked team. ODU dictating the last few drives.
ODU just went up 35-28 with 9 minutes left. ODU isn't even a decent mod major, sitting at 0-3, ranked #126 out of 130 in the composite rankings. For comparison, Buffalo is 60
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BYU is losing to FCS McNeese State, at the end of the first.
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The Horror
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The Wisconsin effect.
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ODU holds on 4th down. Up 7 with with about 2:30 left.
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ODU is 0-3 vs Liberty, Florida International and Charlotte, yet they are about to knock off the 13th ranked team in the country.
Liberty beat them 52-10.
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Down goes VT.
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Down goes VT.
Well except they were dumb enough to score again. Left the door open.
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ELA,Hoosiers or Sparty-Who ya pulling for?
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The Wisconsin effect.
It's real.
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ODU is 0-3 vs Liberty, Florida International and Charlotte, yet they are about to knock off the 13th ranked team in the country.
Liberty beat them 52-10.
Saturdays are great,and I posted VTech in the thread about replacing Rutgers :106:
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ODU VT games are what this sport is all about
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Not the first time ODU beat VT though.
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That is a massive upset
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Not the first time ODU beat VT though.
When was the other time?
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ELA,Hoosiers or Sparty-Who ya pulling for?
Ask me in 3 hours.
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Wow, program win for the Longhorns. Certainly didn't see them shutting down the Frogs offense like this.
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ODU with 632 yards offense. The most ever against a Bud Foster defense
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Rare time Dantonios odd affinity for power over speed in kick returners paid off
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Ugh, looks like still no LJ Scott
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Two formation violations in the first four plays. Jesus
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I thought it was JMU that beat VT.
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When was the other time?
Sorry.
I may be thinking James Madison.
We were still in the ACC.
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Aw yes. In 2010 they lost to James Madison.
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Wow, program win for the Longhorns. Certainly didn't see them shutting down the Frogs offense like this.
Patterson said after the OSU game ( paraphrasing) I am not going to sugar coat it, we spent all summer and fall preparing for Ohio State.
How many times do we see this...teams coming off a very emotional game.
I remember last year, OSU players saying the game the focused on the entire off season was Penn state. After that highly emotional game last season, they traveled to Iowa.......
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Finishing a drive in the end zone is a refreshing change.
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THIS is the kind of shit that will ruin our game we love. Precisely THIS.
Do you mean Rutgers ... or my perspective about Rutgers? I could honestly see it either way.
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Pass rush still non existent
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Their right tackle moves on almost every play, someone needs to point that out
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Well that was needed. Funny how it works when you get to the QB
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Great start for the Spartans!
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I love watching all the celebrations after TD's by other teams not get penalties.
We've had a flag for high-fiving a fan close to the field when the opponent scored and did a Lambeau leap, and a DLman getting a flag for mimicking taking a photo in the endzone after a pick 6.
Like, "hey, you can't celebrate anything".
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Ugh, looks like still no LJ Scott
Taking pointers from Leveon Bell?
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Do you mean Rutgers ... or my perspective about Rutgers? I could honestly see it either way.
Your perspective. TV. Money.
It won't be long. Look at the student sections to start games and look at what the AD's have to do to entice them to come. That's the future. Bleak.
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-17 rushing yards. Good stuff offensive line.
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Settling into this game a little late, but I am going to make this Florida Tennessee game my nightcap. Just don’t have it in me to stay up for PAC 12 After Dark.
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This OL is going to sink any prayer this season had. This is easily the worst group MSU has had in the 15ish years I've paid attention. Easily.
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Whoever else is watching FLA TN, the TV coverage has resorted to plenty of camera pans over a sea of despairing looking Vols fans
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Nice ball game at Autzen.
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I haven't bothered to peek at UF/UT. It was 14 rip pretty fast.
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When you have an 8 yard run late in the first half and it drops your yards per play, you know the Oregon offense is back.
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Army v OU must be on Longhorn Network, nobody can see it.
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So many presnap fouls
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That may have been the most creative blitz I've seen us run all year. Enough guys were open that I wouldn't do it again now that they've seen it. But that was nice once.
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First third down conversion Midway through the 3rd. Good stuff.
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That's a tough targeting call. One of those where I wish there was the no ejection option.
Like Hudson, last week, right call by the rule, but I hate the rule. How is he supposed to pull up?
Tough break for Indiana. Just lost their best defender
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Army 34:35
OK 9:35
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This OL is going to sink any prayer this season had. This is easily the worst group MSU has had in the 15ish years I've paid attention. Easily.
Those are strong words. Going back that far? Are you sure?
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Damn, Army's 17 play 65 yard drive which ate up 10 minutes, ends in an INT. OU w ball and time now.
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Those are strong words. Going back that far? Are you sure?
Very
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And Indiana's crowd running at full agitation now after the ejection. I hate booing defenders faking injuries to slow injuries, but whatever, but I've never seen a crowd boo an offensive player for an injury. Until right now. Stick to soccer Hoosier fans
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Well then. A little vintage Dantonio
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Tennessee 1st half drive chart:
Fumble
INT
Turnover on Downs
FG
Safety
Fumble
Fumble
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2nd Half
Fumble kickoff
FG
Punt........First punt of game, with 8 min left in 3rd quarter, down 33-6
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That's a tough targeting call. One of those where I wish there was the no ejection option.
Like Hudson, last week, right call by the rule, but I hate the rule. How is he supposed to pull up?
Tough break for Indiana. Just lost their best defender
Yeah. One of those situations where you're damned if you do or don't. I think the rule could afford a change for plays where the helmet is within 2-3 feet of the ground when it makes contact. But I don't know how to rewrite it better.
I just know that whereas the targeting rules seem to be making the game safer up high, they don't seem to have had any effect on behavior down low.
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Army in OT now.
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Very
Dang. I haven't kept track. What's the injury status again, and who could still return to fix things?
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And now down a second OL and a starting WR. Hopefully 28 is enough, that might be all we have in the tank tonight
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Army in OT now.
They missed the FG from the 10?!
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Oklahoma misses a 33 yard FG at the gun and now we have OT in Norman.
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OU PK missed a 33 yard FG on final play of 4thqtr.
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Weird stat, all 4 MSU TDs have been the first career TDs for the guys who scored them.
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Kind favor:
What channel is the OU/Army OT? (And if you have cable, which game is on next(?) since this one seems to have gone past schedule)
Thanks!
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Kentucky might be for real.....
I saw that the ODU upset win was the biggest upset in the last 10 years, according to ESPN's computer potato chip machine for the gays.
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If it wasn't for penalties, Indiana would really be buried at this point.
And then wow, IU pick
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The dude doing this Ok St/Texas Tech game sounds like he’s spent his entire life learning how to mimic Gus Johnson.
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You'd never know we had a pair of all-Big Ten WRs the way our OC calls a game
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OU v ARMY is only on PPV in OK, plus Armed Forces Net.
Nobody has this game.
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Benny Snell is a monster
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OU v ARMY is only on PPV in OK, plus Armed Forces Net.
Nobody has this game.
In this day and age that is stunning.
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Army down to 4th and 7. last chance.
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OU v ARMY is only on PPV in OK, plus Armed Forces Net.
Nobody has this game.
Oh man, that's almost 1960s-level access.
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It's nearly impossible to get called for a pick play...unless you put your arms out in an attempt to block the guy you are picking.
Then IUs QB makes a huge mistake. 3rd and goal at the 18, and he passes up a big running lane to throw an incomplete jump ball. You aren't reaching the end zone, but down 21 you need to give your team a convertible 4th down. Instead they have to pick the FG.
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BEvo TV says hello
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Damn.
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Is the Wisconsin OL still doing whatever they want to to Iowa?
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Sooners survive
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Benny Snell is a monster
Yeah, he's legit. Total random comp - reminds me of Tashard Choice @ GA Tech.
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And now down a 3rd starting OL. Thank God it's CMU next week
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Is the Wisconsin OL still doing whatever they want to to Iowa?
I wouldn't say either front has had an upper hand.
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Man, this is vintage Oregon.
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That's a tough targeting call. One of those where I wish there was the no ejection option.
Like Hudson, last week, right call by the rule, but I hate the rule. How is he supposed to pull up?
Tough break for Indiana. Just lost their best defender
The IU player there did the exact same thing, but Lewerke dove instead of slid, so no penalty. I hate how that's on the defender.
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Texas Tech beating Ok St 34-17 and just got a pick.
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Then the refs review the kicked pylon on the score and determine the guy is out and ball is back at the 1ish. Huh?
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I'll take that interception over wherever the punt would have landed. Thanks Hoosiers
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OMG, that review overturning TD, results two plays later in a 90+ yd fumble return TD for Stanford. Unreal.
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so pylon is out of bounds, and TD comes off board and now it is 24-14 instead of 31-7,
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The IU player there did the exact same thing, but Lewerke dove instead of slid, so no penalty. I hate how that's on the defender.
This has led to so many bull jive targets this weekend. UNC kid was called for it on a jump ball for a pass, and he's obviously contorting his body to avoid the blow on the WR and the WR gets low in an effort on the ball. Flags come out. They did overturn it.
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Their right tackle moves on almost every play, someone needs to point that out
He hasn't stopped
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This has led to so many bull jive targets this weekend. UNC kid was called for it on a jump ball for a pass, and he's obviously contorting his body to avoid the blow on the WR and the WR gets low in an effort on the ball. Flags come out. They did overturn it.
I think these might be "by the rule book" so the right call, but the problem is that the rule sometimes stinks. Because these are examples where the defender can't realistically tackle correctly AND the rule isn't making the game safer. To be clear, I'm only focusing on the examples of targeting where an offenseman if diving and the tackler can't go lower, and since he's that low and never flying feet first, necessarily is going head first.
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What's that sticker near the top of the Iowa helmets?
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Iowa sprouted their donkey ears there.
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We seem cool just giving them 7 yards per play. Same shit, different week.
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What's that sticker near the top of the Iowa helmets?
It says ANF
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That's my view as well. Yes, the calls are being made to the letter of the rule. Its the scenarios which surface as we've described which make the rule punitive in a capricious fashion. I think it extends beyond the diving/sliding offensive ball carrier scenario.
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America Needs Farmers.
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This kid! I think he was our last commit of the class. Plan C kid. Looks like we may have uncovered anither gem.
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I think these might be "by the rule book" so the right call, but the problem is that the rule sometimes stinks. Because these are examples where the defender can't realistically tackle correctly AND the rule isn't making the game safer. To be clear, I'm only focusing on the examples of targeting where an offenseman if diving and the tackler can't go lower, and since he's that low and never flying feet first, necessarily is going head first.
It's done nothing to change how guys play. Feels like nothing more than a "we tried" defense against future lawsuits
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Penalties killing State
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Injuries getting obscene. Now down 3/5 of our presumed starting OL and 3/5 of our starting nickel secondary
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I kind of like the highlighted names on the Oregon jerseys.
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Wow, Oregon turns busted 4th and 1 play into 1st and Goal at the one.
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Injuries galore today, everywhere.
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America Needs Farmers??
Are there people out there against food?!? lol
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4th and 1, you are running an option out of a shotgun. That tells you all you need to know about their faith in the OL.
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America Needs Farmers??
Are there people out there against food?!? lol
There are people against farming subsidies, and that's about the only way to make American farming profitable
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The targeting and 15-yard penalties and babying the QBs is not working.
Football is an impact sport. A collision sport. Collisions aren't good for the human body. Football players know this, and still choose to play football.
Either allow football to be football or if you choose to bastardize it, call it something else.
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That is a terrible spot. That's about as obvious as it gets, but I've stopped trusting replay to even gets replay right. Even both announcers and the rule expert agree...which seems to mean nothing.
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Serious question, has dantonio lost weight?
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There are people against farming subsidies, and that's about the only way to make American farming profitable
I'll stop before revealing the delicious hypocrisy involved in that debate, and turning it down a political thing. But it's stark.
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The targeting and 15-yard penalties and babying the QBs is not working.
Football is an impact sport. A collision sport. Collisions aren't good for the human body. Football players know this, and still choose to play football.
Either allow football to be football or if you choose to bastardize it, call it something else.
That's where I'm at. We can do what we can do, but most of this stuff is window dressing. I feel bad for the generations of guys where we just didn't know. But we all know now.
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America Needs Farmers??
Are there people out there against food?!? lol
They were free with the $12 billion handout.
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I'll stop before revealing the delicious hypocrisy involved in that debate, and turning it down a political thing. But it's stark.
Of course it's hypocritical. It all is.
But we drew nonsensical party lines where sides have to simulataneously argue for both large and small government whenever it fits their given agenda.
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That is a terrible spot. That's about as obvious as it gets, but I've stopped trusting replay to even gets replay right. Even both announcers and the rule expert agree...which seems to mean nothing.
Wow, overturned. Got it right. Never heard a ref admit they got it so wrong that "after review the ball was 2 yards short," but it was.
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It's done nothing to change how guys play. Feels like nothing more than a "we tried" defense against future lawsuits
It's 98% about lawsuits, but I also think that the game has begun to change on tackles that are higher up. Especially when it comes to ball hawking safeties flying in on receceivers downfield at the catch. Torpedoing used to be more common. Now there's more ball play and shoulder leading.
Well. Let me step back. That's hard to prove. But it's my strong sense.
The main failure is on these tackles where both players' heads are closer to the ground that a standing waist.
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Ever hear of the Iowa caucus OAM? Pols lineup all the time for you know...
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Stanford Oregon w best game of season so far imo.
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It's 98% about lawsuits, but I also think that the game has begun to change on tackles that are higher up. Especially when it comes to ball hawking safeties flying in on receceivers downfield at the catch. Torpedoing used to be more common. Now there's more ball play and shoulder leading.
Well. Let me step back. That's hard to prove. But it's my strong sense.
The main failure is on these tackles where both players' heads are closer to the ground that a standing waist.
Speaking of rule changes. If they want to limit plays without reducing offense (because banning snaps within the first 10 seconds of the play clock otherwise makes sense), then a natural way to knock a few snaps off the game seems to be abandoning the first down clock stoppage, like they do in the NFL. I was surprised a decade ago they hadn't done that, now I'm shocked
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I'll stop before revealing the delicious hypocrisy involved in that debate, and turning it down a political thing. But it's stark.
It's a salient point. The politicians who are "always against handouts" are always-shh-quietly for the handouts that can help them get elected. I am cool with the spirit of ANF, btw. But I'm cool with many-many types of subsidies.
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America Needs Farmers??
Are there people out there against food?!? lol
It's a 30 year tradition originating from Farm-aid, when the future of farming was in serious jeopardy.
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Speaking of rule changes. If they want to limit plays without reducing offense (because banning snaps within the first 10 seconds of the play clock otherwise makes sense), then a natural way to knock a few snaps off the game seems to be abandoning the first down clock stoppage, like they do in the NFL. I was surprised a decade ago they hadn't done that, now I'm shocked
Either of those is a good complementary solution to protect players.
I prefer the first one, but HUNH is anathema for me, so of course I do.
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Oregon trying to gag this
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Oh no, Oregon
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No reason to run for that extra yard at all
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I hate it when OT decides a brilliant game.
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Either of those is a good complementary solution to protect players.
I prefer the first one, but HUNH is anathema for me, so of course I do.
Same.
You don't like guys running to the line so we can watch 30 seconds of audibles, rather than hear analysts break down the previous okay, just so the defense can't make substitutions, only to be pissed when that results in defenders cramping?
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Oregon not meant to win this.
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I swear Mitchell has 21 catches
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And Hornibrook with a dagger!
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Man, pending this final drive, Iowa is really going to hang its head about that botched punt coverage/ball foot tap. Brutal for those guys.
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Crushing defeat for UO . The scoreboard read 30-7 for a moment. The kicked pylon, the wild fumbles . The inexplicable aggressive run under a minute...
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Iowa beefed it.
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Iowa some ST blunders tonight. Game was as advertised.
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Iowa/ Wisconsin game delivers again.
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Oh damn, OSU vs PSU next week? Niiiiiiice. :72:
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Hmmmm, EMU vs San Diego St orrrrr ASU @ UW? lol
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Nothing like outplaying an opponent and losing the division in the same night. I called it before the last drive, 2010 all over again.
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Iowa is a weird team. Apparently in order for them to have beaten Wisconsin at home at night, Iowa would've had to have a losing record and Wisconsin would've had to be ranked in the top 5. Seems like that's the only time Iowa gets really big wins. When there are no expectations.
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I think I drank a gallon of Oktoberfest yesterday. Whew
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Hasn't the road team won something like 12 of the last 14 in IA-Wisc?
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I think I drank a gallon of Oktoberfest yesterday. Whew
I only had two as I gave blood on Friday,ya but it's a great treat.Malti-goodness,I wash my tires with IPAs,unfortunately I never saw the 2nd half of IA-UW like I was relishing.If you had that many I'm guessin you didn't either or remember much of it
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Iowa/ Wisconsin game delivers again.
Thank god it did. Michigan was not very entertaining and neither was OSU. It was nice to watch competitive football. Great game. Iowa has to be kicking themselves and the Badgers happy about finding a way to win.
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Any win in Iowa City at night is a great win. Changes the trajectory of the season for both.
UW now has a two game lead in the West, effectively. I kinda thought Maryland would beat Minnesota, but not like that. Purdue.. could be scary if they play like that for the rest of the season.
Both have a bye week next up, and both will need it. Some hitting going on last night, as usual. Lots of ice baths I'm sure.
Nebraska is next for UW. Iowa gets Minnesota. Then UW gets Michigan on the road, while Iowa heads to Bloomington.
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I only had two as I gave blood on Friday,ya but it's a great treat.Malti-goodness,I wash my tires with IPAs,unfortunately I never saw the 2nd half of IA-UW like I was relishing.If you had that many I'm guessin you didn't either or remember much of it
Nope. My buddy built a pretty awesome bar on the back of his house and I took full advantage. But then my wife brought our dogs over, they ran off and got sprayed by a skunk.
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Hasn't the road team won something like 12 of the last 14 in IA-Wisc?
UW is 6-1 against them since 2010 - 1-1 in Madison. The loss came when Iowa won the West.
Since 2000, UW is 3-4 in Madison and 6-3 in Iowa City. Since 2002, UW is 2-4 in Madison and 5-3 in Iowa City.
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Nope. My buddy built a pretty awesome bar on the back of his house and I took full advantage. But then my wife brought our dogs over, they ran off and got sprayed by a skunk.
No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
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Nope. My buddy built a pretty awesome bar on the back of his house and I took full advantage. But then my wife brought our dogs over, they ran off and got sprayed by a skunk.
HA!Scrubbing down sprayed dogs whilst half in the bag,cursing and swearing,cursing and swearing.For future reference mix a tables spoon of dawn,a qt of Hydrogen Peroxide,and like a cup or two of baking soda,have to look it up - this actually works.Had to use it on my cat a while back a few times
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No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
Haven't had a dog in over 25 yrs-but I'd love too.When I was single I wasn't around enough for a dog - who are sociable creatures.Got suckered into a kitten that lived for 17 yrs mostly outside and over at a neighbors who always had 2-3 cats.They were clean freaks and you'd never know it.Cindy had two small parrots(which are neat in there own right) when she was taking care of her dying mother and brought them with her when she moved back - so no dogs
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No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
Is that your way of inviting me over??
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Is that your way of inviting me over??
I would have never pictured you as a drooling, unwashed orange-haired naked man who doesn't wipe his ass!
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I would have never pictured you as a drooling, unwashed orange-haired naked man who doesn't wipe his ass!
You're just being nice on Sunday - well stop it!
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The agents in skunk "oil" comprise mercaptans, symbol generally as R-S-H (R indicates some kind of carbon linkage) and S of course is sulfur.
Those types are susceptible to oxidation, hence use of hydrogen peroxide, which is not hydrophobic but the mercaptans are, so the Dawn breaks that down so the H2O2 can get to the mercaptan.
The other treatment is tomato juice which contains a lot of unsaturated compounds like beta-carotene. These combine with the R-S-H readily to form sulfides which are less smelly, often not smelly if high enough MW.
The other treatment would be mercury, elemental, but I don't advise that one.
Sorry, I digress when it comes to organosulfur chemistry.
Di-n-butyl sulfide doesn't smell very good but is often used in perfumes to provide "character".
Some may recall use of DMSO to treat arthritis back in the day. I think this has been largely stamped out, for probably good reasons. It is one compound that goes through the skin readily. If you get some on you, you immediately taste something not very nice in your mouth as the body makes dimethyl sulfide out of it. That is a gas and it doesn't smell good at all.
The worst thing I ever smelled was butane dithiol (thiols are another name for mercaptans). I got a whiff one time and vomited on the lab floor immediately. Just a whiff. It would be good for crowd control I think. I think it is "safe". But man is it bad to smell.
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No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
I'm with you. I wanted no dogs and my wife wanted one dog so we have two dogs.
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We have an amazing number of dog owners around us. The park is full of them walking said animals, often 2 or 3.
They are pretty good about picking up after them. I love dogs. The wife loves dogs.
We don't have any ourselves.
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We travel too much to have anything in the house, not to mention I'm allergic to anything that sheds... So, no. Even if... NO!
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The agents in skunk "oil" comprise mercaptans, symbol generally as R-S-H (R indicates some kind of carbon linkage) and S of course is sulfur.
Those types are susceptible to oxidation, hence use of hydrogen peroxide, which is not hydrophobic but the mercaptans are, so the Dawn breaks that down so the H2O2 can get to the mercaptan.
The other treatment is tomato juice which contains a lot of unsaturated compounds like beta-carotene. These combine with the R-S-H readily to form sulfides which are less smelly, often not smelly if high enough MW.
I had read about the Dawn/Peroxide/Baking Soda article I think in Consumer Reports evidently some medical types came up with working in Mortuaries where sometimes the bodies had already been decomposing.CR did experiments using the skunk spray and the mixture and it worked.They also tried tomato juice and said it didn't.They had people who were not exposed to the strong spray smell the articles of cloth that were exposed.People seem to think the tomato juice works but they said no.After you are exposed to the skunk spray smell for a few minutes it kind of deadens your ability to smell it after 5-10 minutes.
I know the other peroxide concoction works because I tried it immediately when I got sprayed late one warm summers evening.My garage sits behind my house and around 11 one evening I went out to close the garage door because the opener was broke.Unaware the skunk was right under my car - I thought it was my cat.Well two well placed shots later - right into each knee cap and I quickly grabbed the hose and rinsed off.Then lathered up with that solution and walla - it worked.The next morning or that evening you couldn't smell a thing.I'm sure immediately rinsing helped immensely.But not long after my cat got it prolly by the same culprit and I washed him using the solution and I highly recommend it.The solution - not washing cats
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Never had a dog growing up and never wanted one.
Had kids and they and my wife bugged me for about two years about getting a dog. I finally caved in the fall of 2016.
I’d give her away and not blink if I could. I’m with Badge. I never saw the appeal of dogs. Of course, some people feel that way about having kids. Different strokes and all that.
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In my opinion, in general, Consumer Reports is a hack magazine. I don't trust their methods at all, this is a general comment not meant to dispute anything about skunks.
When I was working, they would test products we developed and their methods were about 6th grade level and generally no useful at all. Their stuff on cars is ridiculous in my opinion. Anyway, enough of that.
The tomato juice does "work", just not as well and not as fast, and it can leave a mess.
The baking soda item is something you should not get in your eyes obviously, but then Dawn in your eyes is not good either.
Drug store peroxide is about 3% active. Reagent grade is 30% and some is 50%, which is pretty dangerous. We once got some 90% from duPont back in the day.
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In my opinion, in general, Consumer Reports is a hack magazine. I don't trust their methods at all, this is a general comment not meant to dispute anything about skunks.
That's all good and fine but i read that back in the late '90s.A lot of honorable things have went by the wayside since then.Most everything that I've purchased by CRs advice has been commendable however
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The tomato juice does "work", just not as well and not as fast, and it can leave a mess.
that's another reason I opted for the solution-after tomato juice even if it works there is still another washing/rinsing step - that's a tall order if the recipient is a cat and not a dog or me
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Lifetime pet ban. We don't have a prenup but that was understood before marriage. Very allergic to cats and some dogs. I'd be a dreadful pet owner.
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Winfield Jr. With another season ending injury. :96:
As sure as the sun rises in the east...
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Winfield Jr. With another season ending injury. :96:
As sure as the sun rises in the east...
What happened?
Didn't look that severe.
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And Indiana's crowd running at full agitation now after the ejection. I hate booing defenders faking injuries to slow injuries, but whatever, but I've never seen a crowd boo an offensive player for an injury. Until right now. Stick to soccer Hoosier fans
Mmm, I remember UW students doing that. Had a not great chant too.
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Lifetime pet ban. We don't have a prenup but that was understood before marriage. Very allergic to cats and some dogs. I'd be a dreadful pet owner.
Many people are allergic before desensitization. Me too. To cats and dogs (not to mention 365 days of "seasonal" allergies). But after ~4 months with either type, it was over. Those months weren't strictly comfortable, but prophylactic cetirizine is a marvel.
In any event, I think most people can grow out of it. It's paradoxical that the allergy can be more persistent if the allergen is avoided.
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No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
Somehow, I'm not totally surprised.
I like dogs. I like other folks' dogs more than my own. I've pet sit a couple times, and you have to be comfortable with a certain level of ... grit for lack of a better word. Not to be presumptive, but you always struck me as the sort who wanted his home just so. I've dated someone whose family had a whole ton of animals (farm life), and their standard for it is far higher than mine. I got used to it in the house after a while.
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Any win in Iowa City at night is a great win. Changes the trajectory of the season for both.
UW now has a two game lead in the West, effectively. I kinda thought Maryland would beat Minnesota, but not like that. Purdue.. could be scary if they play like that for the rest of the season.
Both have a bye week next up, and both will need it. Some hitting going on last night, as usual. Lots of ice baths I'm sure.
Nebraska is next for UW. Iowa gets Minnesota. Then UW gets Michigan on the road, while Iowa heads to Bloomington.
I find myself worried UW will somehow lose on crossovers. Like PSU and Mich become or are legit and UW at 7-2 (or god forbid 6-3) is somehow squeezed out.
UW played gritty and the offense was better. D-line had a BAD day. Also, Chryst was kinda super aggressive, the kind of aggressive that scares fans.
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I find myself worried UW will somehow lose on crossovers. Like PSU and Mich become or are legit and UW at 7-2 (or god forbid 6-3) is somehow squeezed out.
That's why I advocate for division record being the first consideration. If, generic example, a West team loses two to the East but goes undefeated in the West, they should represent the West. I mean. They did a West round robin. And won them all. They're the best team out there.
Flow chart:
1. Compare division records; if no ties, you have your division champ
2. If 2 are tied, go H2H; you have your division champ
3. If 3 are tied, go with the present tie breakers, comparing conference records, H2H, or whatever is on that list until you have your CCG participant
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That's why I advocate for division record being the first consideration. If, generic example, a West team loses two to the East but goes undefeated in the West, they should represent the West. I mean. They did a West round robin. And won them all. They're the best team out there.
Flow chart:
1. Compare division records; if no ties, you have your division champ
2. If 2 are tied, go H2H; you have your division champ
3. If 3 are tied, go with the present tie breakers, comparing conference records, H2H, or whatever is on that list until you have your CCG participant
It absolutely should be division record. The way they do it now is ridiculous.
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The downside (and this idea absolutely has strong detractors, even on this board) is that going division first will cost a conference CFP bids over time. Since, going back to the hypothetical above, the 10-2 (7-2, 6-0) team would be chosen over its 11-1 (8-1, 5-1) division mate for the CCG.
But that argument has never seemed good enough to earn it priority.
Detractors might also point out that going division-first will diminish the importance of inter-divisional games. To which I say:
- not in tiebreaker scenarios and
- the reg season diminishment genie is already out of the bottle anyway, which this example illustrates (team wins *every* division game in round robin fashion but doesn't win the division)
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I've dated someone whose family had a whole ton of animals (farm life), and their standard for it is far higher than mine. I got used to it in the house after a while.
What farm animals in the house?Sort of like the old '60s sitcom "Green Acres"
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Somehow, I'm not totally surprised.
I like dogs. I like other folks' dogs more than my own. I've pet sit a couple times, and you have to be comfortable with a certain level of ... grit for lack of a better word. Not to be presumptive, but you always struck me as the sort who wanted his home just so. I've dated someone whose family had a whole ton of animals (farm life), and their standard for it is far higher than mine. I got used to it in the house after a while.
That would be accurate, and part of why we sold it in 2+ days. :)
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How long did you reside there Badge?
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11 years. Love the place, like I said, but we just had to sell (while we could still sell here).
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I liked our house in Cincy, puttering around in the yard and whatnot was good for me. The deer ate most of what I planted though.
I am glad now not to have to be concerned about stuff breaking or needing painting or roofs or woodpeckers pecking holes in the siding, which happened every year in several places. That was really annoying.
They are about to reroof our condo apparently, something they do about every 25 years or so.
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Many people are allergic before desensitization. Me too. To cats and dogs (not to mention 365 days of "seasonal" allergies). But after ~4 months with either type, it was over. Those months weren't strictly comfortable, but prophylactic cetirizine is a marvel.
In any event, I think most people can grow out of it. It's paradoxical that the allergy can be more persistent if the allergen is avoided.
I did not have pet allergies. Got pets. Lived with them for a couple of years. Suddenly developed allergies.
Allergist said it was very common. Exposure works both ways, apparently.
I don't really like animals anyway. People that treat their pets like kids creep me out, too.
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One thing (among many things) that annoys me is when people bring their dogs into stores. Went to a wine tasting Saturday afternoon with the wife and in walks this woman with two dogs. I know the owner of the liquor store (shocking, I'm sure) so I went to him and asked that the dogs be removed. Being that my cart was full of wine, he obliged.
Dammit people, leave the hairy unwashed unwiped naked men at home. The damn things are not gonna shop, taste wine or buy anything. EVER. Think of others aside from yourself.
This is a PoA example in my mind.
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I notice dogs frequently on airplanes now. They "ban" peanuts if someone claims to have an allergy, but I see 2-3 pooches on the plane routinely now.
And like HDCP parking spaces, folks found out how easy it is to get their dogs labeled as "service/support animals". I know a couple who did that so they could take their dog anywhere. He's a great dog, but I don't want him in the grocery store.
Humans will abuse any privilege given to the few for good reason. In not many years, the few become the many.
Most of the folks parking in HDCP spots at Wally World are, well, not thin.
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One thing (among many things) that annoys me is when people bring their dogs into stores. Went to a wine tasting Saturday afternoon with the wife and in walks this woman with two dogs. I know the owner of the liquor store (shocking, I'm sure) so I went to him and asked that the dogs be removed. Being that my cart was full of wine, he obliged.
Dammit people, leave the hairy unwashed unwiped naked men at home. The damn things are not gonna shop, taste wine or buy anything. EVER. Think of others aside from yourself.
This is a PoA example in my mind.
Preach!
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I often notice a dog licking his "hind parts" and then "kissing" his owner shortly thereafter.
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I often notice a dog licking his "hind parts" and then "kissing" his owner shortly thereafter.
Yep, I see that too. WTF??
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I still really like dogs (and Dawgs of course).
I notice (as have the wife) that drivers around here are more prone to "letting you in" in traffic than in Cincy. They also are more prone to running red left turn signals and a few drivers are very aggressive in traffic, more than in Cincy. Otherwise it's about the same except here even midday traffic can be really bad.
In Cincy we nearly always timed our trips to "off hours" but here they don't seem to have them outside 2 AM.
I had wondered if getting a manual transmission was a good idea in this traffic but thus far it's fine. It's a bit notchy, not as smooth as a Honda would be. Honda has a nice linkage in general.
Our building is having a 30th anniversary celebration this weekend. It's almost the same age as our house was.
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Quote of the week
Kentucky (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/college-sports/kentucky-wildcats-ORSPT000000274-topic.html) linebacker Kash Daniel, asked if he felt sorry for the Mississippi State left tackles after the Wildcats (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/college-sports/arizona-wildcats-ORSPT00000239-topic.html) had three sacks and held the Bulldogs to 201 total yards in a 28-7 victory: “I didn’t feel sorry for any of them. I hope they’re all crying, and I hope they’re all sobbing. I hope all their girlfriends broke up with them, everything. ... I don’t care about them at all.”
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One thing (among many things) that annoys me is when people bring their dogs into stores. Went to a wine tasting Saturday afternoon with the wife and in walks this woman with two dogs. I know the owner of the liquor store (shocking, I'm sure) so I went to him and asked that the dogs be removed. Being that my cart was full of wine, he obliged.
Dammit people, leave the hairy unwashed unwiped naked men at home. The damn things are not gonna shop, taste wine or buy anything. EVER. Think of others aside from yourself.
This is a PoA example in my mind.
The truest form of PoA, when we say think of others, but are really saying, think of me and my preferences.
I’m not bringing my dog to a grocery store, but a liquor store acting as a de facto bar, that doesn’t bother me much. I mean, if the store owner doesn’t care, is what it is. I’m not moving much past a live and let live outlook.
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I'm badly allergic to dogs (and other things) to the point where if they simply touch me, I break out in a rash. My "preference" is to not have this happen, because it sucks.
Is it selfish to not expect to find a dog walking in a f'ing store?
Or, is it selfish to bring your damn dog into a store, knowing there may be other people inside who cannot tolerate your damn dog?
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A dog can react to any quick movement or kids running/screaming next thing you know it latches on to some one - ya leave the mutts at home.Unless it's saturday afternoon and Badge is at a wine tasting well then empty the shelter maybe some of those ripple slurpers will want to adopt a rescue.Serves him right for not watching College Football
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Oh man, NW RB Jeremy Larkin apparently retiring from football due to spinal stenosis
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I'm badly allergic to dogs (and other things) to the point where if they simply touch me, I break out in a rash. My "preference" is to not have this happen, because it sucks.
Is it selfish to not expect to find a dog walking in a f'ing store?
Or, is it selfish to bring your damn dog into a store, knowing there may be other people inside who cannot tolerate your damn dog?
The allergy is a fair accommodation to ask about. But it is asking to be accommodated, like peanuts or anything else.
Is it selfish to not want a dog in a store? It depends the kind of store and situation. This isn’t a place where a dog is gonna get dog stuff on the products for the most part (not an open air butcher shop). And as you said, it was part store, part wine tasting. We could argue a wine tasting isn’t a place for a dog, but society generally seems fine with dogs in at least some open-space drinking situations.
To answer your last question, I’d say it’s selfish to imagine someone else should live their life and act in public spaces according to your preferences and tolerances. If the store has a pet policy or particular preference, absolutely, but it sounds like this was your issue, not theirs. If it’s a health thing, you can nicely ask, and hopefully with an explanation, they won’t be crappy about it. If they’re crappy, that’s PoA.
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Oh man, NW RB Jeremy Larkin apparently retiring from football due to spinal stenosis
A dog can react to any quick movement or kids running/screaming next thing you know it latches on to some one - ya leave the mutts at home.Unless it's saturday afternoon and Badge is at a wine tasting well then empty the shelter maybe some of those ripple slurpers will want to adopt a rescue.Serves him right for not watching College Football
A dog COULD bite someone and thus should be kept in the house? I thought we were anti-PoA around here.
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I've had a few people give me shit when I've asked them to take their dogs outside and tie them up. One woman was particularly bitchy, so I got close and let out a major ripper. Stunk too. She left.
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I'm a dog lover. Just don't want one living in my house. Outside in the yard is fine.
My daughter has a dog, yes, daughter and dog live in my house.
It bothers me a bit, not enough to kick the daughter out.
the dog is my buddy, but when he leaves I will be fine w/o him.
I don't mind other people's dogs. They usually don't bite or otherwise bother me.
I don't like cats a tall
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I want a brewery dog... A lot of people here take their dogs to breweries, and I'm feeling left out lol...
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I want a brewery hairy naked man who doesn't shower or wipe his ass... A lot of people here take those to breweries, and I'm feeling left out lol...
Fixed.
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Cats will kill me, and frankly I find them to be filthy. I can't get over where people let their cats walk, climb, etc. inside their homes. I have been inside my brother's place one time in 16 years, despite scores of get togethers elsewhere. Its the damn cats.
I think airlines have also started to wake up to the self inflicted trouble that pro-dog people have been bringing to the skies.
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Cats will kill me, and frankly I find them to be filthy.
Here I thought you were an attorney not Sigfried or Roy
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16 team sim tourney Bracketology
| APPALACHIAN STATE |
| 2 | GEORGIA |
| NOON - espn2 |
| . | |
| BUFFALO |
| 1 | ALABAMA |
| 1:30 - ESPN |
| . | |
| 9 | PENN STATE |
| 8 | NOTRE DAME |
| 3:00 - ABC |
| . | |
| NORTH TEXAS |
| 3 | CLEMSON |
| 4:30 - espn2 |
| . | |
| BOISE STATE |
| 4 | OHIO STATE |
| 6:00 - ESPN |
| . | |
| 11 | WASHINGTON |
| 6 | OKLAHOMA |
| 7:30 - ABC |
| . | |
| 13 | CENTRAL FLORIDA |
| 5 | LSU |
| 9:00 - espn2 |
| . | |
| 10 | AUBURN |
| 7 | STANFORD |
| 10:30 - ESPN |
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Hey, a dog might be a filthy animal...
But...
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I'm ok with brewery dogs
a few dog hairs in my beer don't bother me
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I like dogs. I'm a dog person, but I don't have time for one. I have cat. Not a cat person. But I like our cat anyway.
I think dogs in stores, eating, and drinking establishments is a little weird unless they are service dogs. Real service dogs, not "I really like my dog" service dogs.
But know your dog. Any possibility that dog will bite someone? Stays in the house. A friend's dog bit me last week, twice. Stupid little toy poodle, or some such thing. It broke skin and it hurt, but it wasn't dangerous, just really annoying. Literally an ankle biter.
Man, looking at 1997, though (I know I'm two days late). I was in South Korea and very few Badger games were on TV. Season opener against Syracuse was, though. They whupped the Badgers. Then got smacked around by the Georgia Bulldogs in January at the Outback Bowl. A Georgian stationed with me let me know how much Wisconsin sucked every chance he got. He hadn't even gone to Georgia--went to North Georgia College. That guy--for more reasons than just football--got me to dislike Georgia football for a long time.
Hadn't thought about that in a while. Shouldn't dwell on negative things like that.
Nowadays I kinda like the Georgia Dawgs, between Cincy and some fellas I worked with for a few years. I've been to Athens several times, but never made it over a football weekend. Still in the cards, I hope.
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If you ever get down this way some fall, we can make that happen.
I can even put you up.
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If you ever get down this way some fall, we can make that happen.
I can even put you up.
I will be sure to let you know, though realistically it's probably not until the kids have stopped playing soccer in the fall--and I hope that's not for several more years. :-)
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If you guys do meet up in Athens, we should make a reunion out of it. I could bring some Madison cops to counter SEC speed even.
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If you guys do meet up in Athens, we should make a reunion out of it. I could bring some Madison cops to counter SEC speed even.
Would love it!
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BTW, you fellas realize that was the Wisconsin-Iowa game 11 years ago. Time flies, lads--even faster than El Tigre Rex. Still probably the best football weekend I've ever had. Course, meeting with the athletic director didn't hurt.
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11 years?
Holy. Crap.
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I'll admit I had UW/Iowa on my 2nd TV, with sound on TV 1 for the Stanford/UO game, but that was the best I've ever seen Hornibrook look at QB.
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Better than the Orange Bowl?
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Heh, I missed the OB. I was at a party.
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I just wish he would set his feet.
And throw fewer interceptions.
And play more consistently...well.
But he's got another year, so maybe he'll get there.
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UW has had exactly one great QB since I've been a UW fan, and he was only around for one season. All the other QB's had a wart or seven.
I like Hornibrook, but more importantly, his teammates would take a bullet for him, and he would set himself on fire to win a football game. Total gamer. Is he perfect? Hell no, but he's what UW has and he's definitely not bad.
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Absolutely. I'm not a hater, I just wish he were better. :-)