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Title: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 24, 2022, 12:18:43 PM
May as well start it, even though 2023 recruiting is still on.


Lots of people are expecting UW to get a big one today, which would be the second 2024 commit for them. We'll see.

The one commit they do have is a DB from Chicago, but it's not clear if the new staff will want him at this time. He committed in October.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 24, 2022, 08:19:28 PM
Done.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 27, 2022, 10:43:25 AM
Coach Prime gets a 4*, top 100ish DL from the state of Georgia that Bama and Auburn were both after. These are the kind of commits that will change that programs trajectory. Can't win jack without the big uglies on the OL & DL.

https://247sports.com/Player/Omar-White-46113868/
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 27, 2022, 02:24:27 PM
4* CB Jaylan Thompson from TN picks MSU over a final group of them, UM, Auburn, and Kentucky
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 27, 2022, 11:52:25 PM
Apparently 2025 QB Bryce Underwood is looking for a record breaking NIL deal. Like 8 figures
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 27, 2022, 11:58:34 PM
Apparently 2025 QB Bryce Underwood is looking for a record breaking NIL deal. Like 8 figures
F that.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 28, 2022, 12:11:58 AM
MSU certainly can't pay it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 28, 2022, 12:19:27 AM
Apparently 2025 QB Bryce Underwood is looking for a record breaking NIL deal. Like 8 figures
Lol no one is gonna pay that. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 28, 2022, 12:31:21 AM
Lol no one is gonna pay that.
Paid out over 3 years?  Sure they will
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2022, 01:02:30 AM
4 years
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 28, 2022, 11:50:36 AM
4 years
he's probably a 3 and off to the first round in the NFL type of kid. Ridiculous talent. He'll wind up the #1 overall player in 2025 in the final 'croot rankings imo. Rocket launcher arm at 6'3ish and a ridiculous athlete as well.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 28, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
He's also got plenty of time to get screwed up.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 10, 2023, 12:34:33 PM
sounds like 2024 #1 player, #1 QB 5* Dylan Raiola who was committed to Ohio State for all that time only to decommit is now leaning towards....Georgia. 

Hey I get it. Stet Bennett is a heckuva story and UGA just went on a remarkable 2-year run going back to back, but dude....seems like a bad decision to flip to UGA from Ohio St if you're a QB. Kirby has never developed an NFL QB. Every QB that starts for Ryan Day has been going top 10ish in the NFL Draft. Wasn't Haskins (RIP) a top 10 pick? I think Fields was #11. CJ Stroud about to be a top 5 pick. If I'm a QB, the #1 guy on my list that I'd want to play for is probably Ryan Day. Kirby Smart doesn't even make the list.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 10, 2023, 03:19:32 PM
sounds like 2024 #1 player, #1 QB 5* Dylan Raiola who was committed to Ohio State for all that time only to decommit is now leaning towards....Georgia.

Hey I get it. Stet Bennett is a heckuva story and UGA just went on a remarkable 2-year run going back to back, but dude....seems like a bad decision to flip to UGA from Ohio St if you're a QB. Kirby has never developed an NFL QB. Every QB that starts for Ryan Day has been going top 10ish in the NFL Draft. Wasn't Haskins (RIP) a top 10 pick? I think Fields was #11. CJ Stroud about to be a top 5 pick. If I'm a QB, the #1 guy on my list that I'd want to play for is probably Ryan Day. Kirby Smart doesn't even make the list.
Something ticked them off.  Seems like When Brock Glenn D committed from Ohio State and then they went and signed Lincoln Kienholz, that’s what did it.  Kid is promising- D1 stud in 3 sports - looked really good in the all American game. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 11, 2023, 11:10:56 AM
5* DL David Stone taking an unofficial visit to MSU this weekend, but sounds like DL coach Marco Coleman surprising the staff and going back to his alma mater last week put a wrench it what would have been MSU's 2nd highest rated commit (behind Charles Rogers) of the past 25 years.

From Stone himself, regarding Coleman leaving

“Our relationship was the reason I was planning to commit to MSU. I don’t even know. Things will definitely be different now.”
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2023, 08:06:02 AM
Lol no one is gonna pay that.
The #7 QB this year supposedly had one

https://twitter.com/osgators/status/1613345971424972801?t=dczONPxX92116szg6cI6DA&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 18, 2023, 12:54:18 PM
complete waste of Jeem's time as kid is going to Georgia or Nebraska, but damn it would be wild if he actually went to Michigan. Ohio State fans would be pissssssed you'd think...

https://twitter.com/HammerFox2/status/1615766538627203076?s=20&t=4IAirHoyWasuRejQ3AIV3Q
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 18, 2023, 01:46:55 PM
complete waste of Jeem's time as kid is going to Georgia or Nebraska, but damn it would be wild if he actually went to Michigan. Ohio State fans would be pissssssed you'd think...

https://twitter.com/HammerFox2/status/1615766538627203076?s=20&t=4IAirHoyWasuRejQ3AIV3Q
 Nope.  Wouldn’t bother me at all.   

OSU is loaded at QB and develops them well.  

That kid backed out of OSU because he doesn’t wan a little competition.  No thanks. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 18, 2023, 02:31:34 PM
From Stone himself, regarding Coleman leaving

“Our relationship was the reason I was planning to commit to MSU. I don’t even know. Things will definitely be different now.”
CUE "Ya picked a fine time to leave me L-U-C-I-L-L-E"
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 19, 2023, 03:42:44 PM
average HS recruiting star rating for NFL All-Pro Offensive players? 2*'s. Defensive players? 4.5*'s.

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1616081076409208833?s=20&t=81ngBjTXEvplgbjLLRUhjQ
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 19, 2023, 04:06:14 PM
I saw that. It's not really surprising at all when you think about it.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 19, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 19, 2023, 07:53:34 PM
Did you bastages flip him. Wait'll he sees the song girls it'll be he'll be keeping that USC CB company
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 19, 2023, 08:24:28 PM
long time until the ink dries

if Rhule has a good season and the QB play is impressive next season, he'll have a chance
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 20, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Coach Prime Time flips 5* #1 CB Cormani McClain from Miami. Deion Sanders got Travis Hunter- the #1 ATH and #1 player overall in '22 to follow him to freaking Jackson State- and now transfer to Colorado. Now he just got the #1 CB in '23 to hop on board as well. McClain is from Lakeland, FL - which is typically GATOR country- it's a little country bumpkin town in Central Florida sandwiched in between Tampa and Orlando- kid was a heavy UF lean for a long time until committing to Miami out of nowhere (NIL). Now he's taking his talents to Boulder.

Doubt Deion Sanders at your own peril. Dude is going to dominate the PAC, especially when USC/UCLA leaves. Travis Hunter could wind up at WR just as easily as CB, he's that gifted- but man if he winds up at CB to go along with Cormani McClain- that's a nasty CB duo.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 20, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
Dude is going to dominate the PAC, especially when USC/UCLA leaves.
(https://media.tenor.com/m2IoMXuFeqwAAAAC/magic-johnson-im-not-gonna-be-here.gif)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 20, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
(https://media.tenor.com/m2IoMXuFeqwAAAAC/magic-johnson-im-not-gonna-be-here.gif)
true. soon as he flips Colorado he's going to go to FSU or Auburn if those jobs open  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 20, 2023, 02:05:10 PM
They got a coach poached after one medium season, because they lost a bidding war with Michigan State.  If Deion wins, and schools with deeper pockets come calling, then it's back to Karl Dorrell.  The days of Bill McCartney sticking around because admissions will accept anyone, and leave him alone to run his weird men's cult are over
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
According to Chad Simmons of On3, new Nebraska head coach Matt Rhule is taking drastic measures in an effort to impress Raiola. Nebraska is sending "nearly its entire coaching staff" to Chandler high school in Arizona for a visit with the nation's No. 1 prospect in the Class of 2024.

Raiola, who initially committed to Ohio State but withdrew that pledge in December, recently included Nebraska among his top four schools. He also mentioned Georgia, Oregon and USC as standing out in his recruitment.

given the fact that Nebraska hasn't played in a bowl game since 2016 and hasn't finished a season ranked in the top 10 since 2001, Rhule and his staff are wise to pull out all the stops in an effort to land Raiola. Were Raiola to sign with the Huskers, he'd be the school's first No. 1 overall recruit since the advent of recruiting services and its first five-star signee since 2005.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 27, 2023, 06:02:07 PM
Nebraska is sending "nearly its entire coaching staff" to Chandler high school in Arizona for a visit with the nation's No. 1 prospect in the Class of 2024.

Found a picture

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2023, 06:39:09 PM
I'm not a John Deere guy, so I like it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 30, 2023, 06:49:59 AM
Wisconsin has its second commitment in the class of 2024. Following a junior day visit on Saturday, Algonquin (Ill.) Jacobs Top247 tight end Grant Stec (https://247sports.com/Player/Grant-Stec-46125616) announced his commitment to the Badgers.


The four-star tight end chose UW over Tennessee, Florida, Penn State, Iowa, Arkansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan State, Iowa State, Cincinnati, and more. Stec was a priority for the previous regime and carried a relationship over to Madison with tight ends coach Gino Guidugli (https://247sports.com/Coach/Gino-Guidugli-2002) who was previously with the Bearcats.
Per 247sports, Stec is the nation's No. 12 ranked tight end in the class of 2024. With a 247sports composite rating of 91.92, Stec is the highest-rated tight end prospect in program history during the internet recruiting rankings era. Stec is also the fourth highest-rated prospect from Illinois for the Badgers during that span as well.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 30, 2023, 12:26:28 PM
So MSU's weekend basketball schedule is...




Nice of the Big Ten to schedule some home basketball games for recruiting trips.  I'm sure they wouldn't do that to Michigan




Hmmm
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 30, 2023, 01:08:11 PM
I'd have been fine if there was no BB game in Madison last weekend for recruits to come watch.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 30, 2023, 01:30:36 PM
Not much for recruits to do in East Lansing in February if there's no basketball game.  It's no Madison, Ann Arbor, Columbus, Chicago or Minneapolis
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 30, 2023, 09:58:21 PM
Not much for recruits to do in East Lansing in February if there's no basketball game.  It's no Madison, Ann Arbor, Columbus, Chicago or Minneapolis
They got drinks and college girls there still, right?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 30, 2023, 10:14:41 PM
They got drinks and college girls there still, right?
Sure, but they have to spend some time with the coaches
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 30, 2023, 10:24:30 PM
at the strip club
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 30, 2023, 10:43:36 PM
at the strip club
An East Lansing strip club?  You'd be better off. Hoping one of the hostesses is in a sorority
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 31, 2023, 01:05:35 PM
Wisconsin has locked down its first in-state commitment for the class of 2024. On Wednesday, Waunakee (Wis.) tight end Rob Booker (https://247sports.com/Player/Rob-Booker-46136473) announced his commitment to head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and the Badgers.



Booker chose UW over Iowa, Minnesota, Kansas, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Syracuse, and Virginia Tech. The three-star tight end had also recently heard from Stanford and Auburn.



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on January 31, 2023, 05:18:23 PM
5* DL David Stone taking an unofficial visit to MSU this weekend, but sounds like DL coach Marco Coleman surprising the staff and going back to his alma mater last week put a wrench it what would have been MSU's 2nd highest rated commit (behind Charles Rogers) of the past 25 years.

From Stone himself, regarding Coleman leaving

“Our relationship was the reason I was planning to commit to MSU. I don’t even know. Things will definitely be different now.”
He took back to back unofficial weekend visits.  I'd say when a recruit from Texas comes to visit on his own dime, on back to back weeks, maybe you have a good shot.  Granted, you've got a LOOOOOOONG time til Signing Day
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2023, 12:44:20 PM
UW needs to pull this one off.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 02, 2023, 02:48:25 PM
UW needs to pull this one off.

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Definitely a good RB- his tape reminded a tad of SaQuon. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 02, 2023, 07:12:47 PM
UW needs to pull this one off.

(https://i.imgur.com/YcnhwuL.png)
Got a good shot depends how boogers boys do. Of course he'll change to Texas/USC/Georgia
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 03, 2023, 09:18:27 AM
MSU and M offers not committable? #7 player in Michigan per 247.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2023, 02:05:56 PM
Marshall a top target at RB for Michigan as well. Good thing about that one is that I believe he's not originally from Ohio nor did he grow up a Bucknut nutjob like most kids in that god forsaken sh*thole of a state :)


Believe the kid is from Georgia originally and his dad played college ball there and he grew up a UGA fan.

Michigan offers early playing time. Corum & Edwards both off to the NFL draft after this year. RB spot is wide open in '24 for a rookie to come in and snatch the job. CJ Stokes ain't it- dude got fumbilitis and Cole Cabana is more of a 3rd down RB/return specialist speed burner than he is every down RB.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 03, 2023, 02:16:05 PM
UW offers early PT too (and a stable head coach - ha!!). 

Allen will probably leave, depending on his season, and Melusi is out of time.

Big hole in 2024 as of today.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2023, 02:21:02 PM
Michigan gets commit from 4* ATH Jacob Oden (6'1, 188). Oden is the #160 player overall in the nation, #17 ATH, and #5 player in the state of MI in the 247Composite. Oden plays both ways in HS, has a track background and is projected to play defense at either CB or S.

Michigan's early '24 class has 6 commitments, five of which are 4*'s in the 247Composite. Their '23 HS class by comparison had only 10 total. '24 should be a big rebound year for Jeem and 'crooitin. Especially if they can lock up 5* QB Jadyn Davis soon, which should help catapult them forward. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2023, 02:22:27 PM
UW offers early PT too (and a stable head coach - ha!!).

Allen will probably leave, depending on his season, and Melusi is out of time.

Big hole in 2024 as of today.
wouldn't shock me to see it become a Michigan-Wisconsin battle. Ryan Day views running the football as an after thought. He's pass pass pass happy. 

You'd be hard pressed to find a better situation that features RBs in all of CFB than Michigan or Wisconsin. The identity of those programs is running the football. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 03, 2023, 02:26:00 PM
Lots of people are thinking that Longo's offense is completely pass-happy, and it certainly is more so than PC's was the last few years.

People probably don't get that UNC had TWO 1000 rushers last season. That's a thing and it will happen in Madison this coming season.

No more 8-9 guys in the box.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 03, 2023, 04:46:51 PM
wouldn't shock me to see it become a Michigan-Wisconsin battle. Ryan Day views running the football as an after thought. He's pass pass pass happy.

You'd be hard pressed to find a better situation that features RBs in all of CFB than Michigan or Wisconsin. The identity of those programs is running the football.
Perceptions are funny.  Especially when so far from reality.
Ohio State ran the ball last season 53% of the time they ran a play.  Michigan ran 63% of the time.
Ohio State average 5.37 yards per carry versus Michigan at 5.58.  Pretty similar.

where it gets different is in total offense and total scoring offense or Ohio State was substantially better than Michigan.

RBs these days- the smart ones - Want to play in a dynamic off fence that is good at scoring and mixing it up because they know if the team they’re playing for is a serious passing threat they will have lots of room to run when they get the ball.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 03, 2023, 07:16:48 PM
there are smart ones?

kids just look at NFL numbers

send kids to the NFL and more kids will come
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 17, 2023, 10:19:23 PM
Sanders joined The Rich Eisen Show last week and talked about what he looks for in players — depending on the position. While talent is a big part of the evaluation, Sanders said their upbringing and performance in school are also factors.

“We have different attributes,” Sanders said. “Smart, tough, fast, disciplined with character. Now, quarterbacks are different. We want mother, father. Dual-parent. We want their kid to be 3.5 [GPA] and up, because he has to be smart. Not bad decisions off the field, at all. Because he has to be a leader of men.

“It’s so many different attributes in what we look for when we see a quarterback. You would love a coach’s son. Somewhere, that the coach has coached him. … That’s what, really, we look for in quarterbacks.

He also discussed the different things he looks for in linemen, both on offense and on defense.

“Different positions are different,” Sanders said. “Like, o-linemen, I look for dual-parent homes, a strong father that they adhere to. A smart kid, at least 3.3 [GPA] and above. … Tough, physical, offensive linemen.

“Defensive linemen is totally opposite. Single mama, trying to get it, he’s on free lunch. I’m talking about just trying to make it. He’s trying to rescue mama. Like mama barely made the flight. And I want him to just go get it. It’s a whole different attribute that you look for in different positions. And we have that stuff just chronicled. We know what we want, and we go get it.”
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Scumbag.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 21, 2023, 11:10:03 AM
Four-star athlete Roger Gradney announced his commitment to the Huskers on Monday.

According to 247Sports, Gradney is the No. 28 ranked athlete in the country and the No. 40 ranked player in his class from the state of Texas. The rising senior plays for Rice Consolidated High School in Altair, Texas. Gradney stands at 6'1" and weighs 190 pounds.

Gradney was also recruited by schools in his home state, including Houston, Texas Tech and UTSA. He received his offer from Nebraska earlier this month.

Since Gradney is listed as an athlete, it's unclear what position he will play at Nebraska.

Both the Huskers' secondary coach and wide receivers coach were each tagged in Gradney's offer announcement, possibly signaling that he could play as either a receiver or defensive back.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 23, 2023, 09:26:29 PM
Dylan Raiola, the No. 1 overall recruit in the 2024 class, has reportedly changed his visit plans.

According to a report from On3, the five-star quarterback is no longer visiting Georgia next month.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 26, 2023, 08:41:23 PM
The No. 1-ranked quarterback in the Class of 2024 received a standing ovation at a Cornhuskers' basketball game yesterday, and returned the favor to fans by performing the school's signature crossbones arm gesture. 

Speaking to 247Sports on Saturday, Raiola offered the following seven-word quote to describe the display: "I’ve never experienced anything close to that!"
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 22, 2023, 01:49:00 PM
Michigan gets a pair of commits from Ohio. 4* RB Jordan Marshall and 3* OT Ben Roebuck. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 24, 2023, 12:38:15 AM
5* QB Jadyn Davis is releasing his top 5 list at 5 pm on Friday and then will be committing a week later. All signs point to Michigan. Davis just visited Ann Arbor last weekend for the 7th time in the last year. Davis has been the #1 QB on Michigan's board in '24 since day one. Apparently he was #2 QB on OSU's board and was high on OSU, OSU's #1 was Dylan Raiola, who is a 5*, #1 QB and #1 player in '24. Raiola committed to OSU really early, which sort of drove Davis right into Michigan's hands. 

Michigan has also made up huge ground in the recruitment of '25  5*, #1 QB Bryce Underwood. Underwood made 3 visits to Ann Arbor in the past month alone and has apparently really hit it off with new QBs coach Kirk Campbell. It was no secret that Underwood and his family were not fans of the old QB coach Matt Weiss. At all. Michigan went from basically dead in the water and completely out of it for Underwood to probably being tied with LSU for the lead there- and they are gaining momentum in that one by the day. Wonder if landing Davis might hinder some of that momentum with Underwood however.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 24, 2023, 09:13:13 PM
Across the entire country, some of the nation’s top 2024 recruits felt their phones start buzzing.

Dylan Raiola was going to check out Nebraska on March 24-25 — and he wanted to know if they were coming too. The caliber of prospects coming to Lincoln this weekend for a junior day are historically good. Four five-star recruits, 12 four-stars and of course, the nation’s top recruit.

How did all this talent decide that for one weekend, Lincoln was the place to be?

Call it the Dylan Raiola effect.

“You gotta follow Dylan Raiola, right?” said tight end recruit Ian Flynt.

_________________________________________________ _________


most recruiting stars ever assembled in Lincoln on a weekend
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 28, 2023, 02:13:11 PM
Dylan Raiola, the No. 1 overall recruit in the 2024 class, has reportedly changed his visit plans.

According to a report from On3, the five-star quarterback is no longer visiting Georgia next month.

2024’s No. 1 QB Dylan Raiola sets official visit with Georgia (usatoday.com)

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 28, 2023, 02:25:05 PM
damn it!
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on March 28, 2023, 03:49:41 PM
MSU was sitting well with 4* QB Jake Merklinger, getting 4 unofficials during the fall, but as he's set to commit, it seems like Tennessee has wooed him.  Granted Georgia is also in his final 3, even though they are recruiting him as their Plan B this cycle.  Lol, must be nice,
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2023, 06:53:59 AM
The NIL thing must be very significant these days for many of these fellows.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 07:49:05 AM
I hope so

an unequal playing field is Nebraska's only hope

well, besides Rhule being the answer
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2023, 07:58:39 AM
I think a smart elite player would go for less NIL money now if it meant better potential for more money in three years.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 08:18:03 AM
you bring that up a lot

smart 17 year old elite athletes

heck most aren't smart enough to listen to their grandmother
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2023, 08:20:21 AM
smart 17 year old elite athletes
That could be an oxymoron of sorts ...

Some do listen to advice, no doubt some don't.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 08:39:14 AM
your point is valid

for most players, especially 4 and 5 stars players - the NFL is the goal

they look to programs that send the most platers to the NFL
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2023, 08:44:56 AM
I imagine they weigh a lot of factors, those who are smart about it, and take/listen to advice.  A 5 star could choose say Nebraska now and expect to play early (depending on position) and perhaps shine, but not see the playoffs (he might in year 3).  Or he could choose say UGA for less NIL money and probably sit a year or play some special teams and in blowouts, and he might even collect a lot of NIL by year 3, but he could expect to make he playoffs 2-3 times.  Then there is the "feeling" about the coaches, where are you more comfortable?

A QB might well be attracted to Riley at USC over say UGA.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 09:10:21 AM
I'm afraid Riola might choose Riley over Rhule

Heismans are nice trophies
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2023, 09:40:31 AM
Yeah, were I him, I'd certainly consider Riley hard.  I see Matt Stafford is Riola's godfather, if that matters.  Still, he likely would start as a freshman at Nebraska, and that is a thing, even if his play is a bit rough and inconsistent.  He probably would not at UGA.

I hear almost nothing about NIL at UGA, Smart barely mentions it ever and notes it's "out of his hands" in effect.  I read about players signing deals at times.

Back when I was in school, car dealerships etc. would employ players as "salemen" for the summer and pay them whatever, they'd never show up for work.  I'm sure this was common.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 11:24:15 AM
there's a hotshot QB at USC he'd have to sit behind a season

If Jeff Sims (from Georgia Tech) shines at Nebraska, Dylan could sit behind him one season.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 29, 2023, 12:46:55 PM
there's a hotshot QB at USC he'd have to sit behind a season

If Jeff Sims (from Georgia Tech) shines at Nebraska, Dylan could sit behind him one season.
Raiola has a legit shot at starting day one in '24 at USC or Nebraska imo. Caleb will be off to #1 overall NFL pick and who knows how Jeff Sims works out at Nebraska year one. He might not. Not saying Raiola will start at either place as a rookie, but that possibility is definitely there for him. He's not the #1 overall player in his class for nothing....he's got a big-time arm and the size teams look for in a QB.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 29, 2023, 12:47:43 PM
I agree
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 30, 2023, 01:41:05 PM
MSU was sitting well with 4* QB Jake Merklinger, getting 4 unofficials during the fall, but as he's set to commit, it seems like Tennessee has wooed him.  Granted Georgia is also in his final 3, even though they are recruiting him as their Plan B this cycle.  Lol, must be nice,
looks like Merklinger just committed to Tennessee, who just landed 5*, #2 QB last cycle in Nico Iamaleava. Tennessee is in on some top 2025 QB's as well. My guess is as long as Josh Huepel is there they'll recruit QBs at a really high clip. 

For as great a program as Georgia has been under Kirby, he hasn't done all that well recruiting QBs. Best one he recruited bolted for Ohio State and became a star there, and the best one he's ever had was a 5-foot-11 37 year old walk-on. Would be scary to see a Georgia with a QB like Dylan Raiola or Arch Manning. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 01:55:03 PM
Georgia's QB last season seemed plenty good

maybe won't be at the NFL level, but.......... way above average

I'd guess he'll at least hold a clipboard in the NFL 4 or 5 seasons
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 30, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
Georgia's QB last season seemed plenty good

maybe won't be at the NFL level, but.......... way above average

I'd guess he'll at least hold a clipboard in the NFL 4 or 5 seasons
not knocking him at all. he was a great college player. 

just sayin' if Georgia ever gets that transcendent high first round QB- they just won't be fair. Shoot, they already ain't.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 02:03:53 PM
it would seem that way, but....

Ohio St. had that QB and couldn't get buy Michigan or Georgia
although they did give Georgia a helluva game
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on March 30, 2023, 02:22:32 PM
it would seem that way, but....

Ohio St. had that QB and couldn't get buy Michigan or Georgia
although they did give Georgia a helluva game
All due to defensive flaws.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 30, 2023, 02:27:25 PM
All due to defensive flaws. 
Yep. No problems with that offense.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 02:34:07 PM
21 points vs ND and Northwestern
23 vs Michigan
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2023, 02:48:42 PM
UGA currently has two 4 star QBs on roster.  One is 5.  They had a five star in JT Daniel who Bennett replaced.  He went to WVU and disappeared.

I'm leaning to the opinion that a rocket arm and being 6'3"+ gets you 5 stars but doesn't mean that much in reality, versus knowing the plays, reading the Ds, and having mobility, with a better than average arm.  Their QB battle this year is looking pretty epic.

Georgia quarterbacks preview crucial 2023 position battle: ‘It will be a lot of fun’ (dawgnation.com) (https://www.dawgnation.com/football/good-day-uga/georgia-quarterback-2023-position-battle/757UUGAR4ZHMFPB6NRSG6RA52A/#:~:text=Georgia will have a new,2022 Heisman finalist Stetson Bennett.)

All three look capable, Beck is more of a classic drop back type, Stockton and Vandergriff have some wheels.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 31, 2023, 01:50:28 PM
5* QB Jadyn Davis (#28 player overall, #4 QB in the 247Composite) commits to Michigan. Nice pick up for Jeem there. His '24 class is setting up to be a whale of a class for him, top 3-5ish territory. 

I'll take a bird in the hand over one in the bush, but have to think this probably hurts the huge momentum Michigan has made with class of '25 5* QB Bryce Underwood- who will wind up being the #1 player overall in the '25 class imo.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 02, 2023, 01:29:11 PM
Michigan right in the thick of things for a slew of 247Compsite top 250 OL recruits- maybe even leading for like 6 of them. They already have a pair of Ohio kids- 4* Luke Hamilton and 3* Ben Roebuck in the fold. They are likely taking 6 OL's total- will be interesting to see who the final 4 are. Michigan also said to be in the lead for 4* RB Taylor Tatum of Texas. Tatum is the #35 overall player and #3 RB in the 247Composite.

Jeem could land a 5* QB (Jadyn Davis), two top 10 composite RB's (Jordan Marshall- #7 RB and Tatum #3 RB), and an OL class that will have 6 signees and 5 of which will be 4*'s or higher. Jeem also already has a commit from Hogan Hansen- the #187 player overall in the 247Composite and #10 TE- and he's in on like 6 other TE's that are 4* top 250 players in the 247Composite. They are apparently taking up to 3 TE's this cycle. They'll likely land Brady Prieskorn - who is an in-state kid and the #51 player overall and #3 TE. Any other TE after that is just gravy.

WR 'crootin still kinda sucking right now- but my god the QB/RB/OL/TE 'crootin could wind up being a whale of a class.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 03, 2023, 08:18:39 AM
Derek Jensen (Hartland, Wis.) will be staying home for his college ball.


The Arrowhead offensive tackle committed to Wisconsin following Saturday's unofficial visit, announcing that decision on Sunday.




The three-star prospect also held offers from Iowa, Illinois, Michigan State, Iowa State, Syracuse, Virginia, Kansas, Duke, Nebraska, Purdue, and more.


Derek Jensen, Arrowhead, Offensive Tackle (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Derek-Jensen-46118611/)

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 05, 2023, 03:04:22 PM
4* OT Andrew Sprague (6'8, 290) from Missouri has announced he's moving up his commitment and will be committing this Friday, April 7th. Sprague just visited Michigan, and all signs are pointing to a commitment to Jeem. Sprague is the #160 player and #9 OT in the 247Composite. 

Michigan is also in the top running for 4* OT's Blake Frazier, Max Anderson, Michael Uini, and Bennett Warren - all from Texas. Frazier they will most likely land very soon, he is a legacy and the son of former Michigan OL Steve Frazier who played for Lloyd Carr.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 05, 2023, 03:10:39 PM
Ohio St gets a commitment from Mylan Graham, a 5* WR from Indiana who is the #27 player overall and #5 WR in the 247Composite. Oh yeah, they already have the commitment of Jeremiah Smith from Florida- the #2 player overall and #1 WR in the 247Composite.

At this point with the way they recruit WRs it doesn't really matter who the QB is lol. Brian Hartline needs to get a head coaching gig somewhere else already. That man recruits and develops WRs like nothing I have ever seen...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2023, 04:11:42 PM
Ohio St gets a commitment from Mylan Graham, a 5* WR from Indiana who is the #27 player overall and #5 WR in the 247Composite. Oh yeah, they already have the commitment of Jeremiah Smith from Florida- the #2 player overall and #1 WR in the 247Composite.

At this point with the way they recruit WRs it doesn't really matter who the QB is lol. Brian Hartline needs to get a head coaching gig somewhere else already. That man recruits and develops WRs like nothing I have ever seen...
You haven't seen PJ Barnum?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on April 05, 2023, 04:42:09 PM
Ohio St gets a commitment from Mylan Graham, a 5* WR from Indiana who is the #27 player overall and #5 WR in the 247Composite. Oh yeah, they already have the commitment of Jeremiah Smith from Florida- the #2 player overall and #1 WR in the 247Composite.

At this point with the way they recruit WRs it doesn't really matter who the QB is lol. Brian Hartline needs to get a head coaching gig somewhere else already. That man recruits and develops WRs like nothing I have ever seen...
I like the 4star RB they just got out of Texas, James Peoples. 

https://247sports.com/Player/James-Peoples-46118013/
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2023, 05:24:33 PM
College football recruiting expenses by conference: SEC stands out as Georgia spends big for success in 2022 - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-recruiting-expenses-by-conference-sec-stands-out-as-georgia-spends-big-for-success-in-2022/)

Zounds.  

How much does it cost to buy the resources necessary to win a national championship? If you ask the two-time reigning champion Georgia Bulldogs (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UGA/georgia-bulldogs/), the answer is $16,518,859. The Bulldogs spent that much between 2017-22 on recruiting expenses, which was more than $5 million more than any other program in the country over the same period, according to analysis of public records obtained by USA Today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/04/05/college-football-recruiting-budget-georgia-alabama-tennessee/11605732002/) for Power Five schools. The gap between Georgia and No. 2 spender Alabama (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/BAMA/alabama-crimson-tide/) almost matches the difference between Alabama and Nebraska (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/NEB/nebraska-cornhuskers/). 

Recruiting budgets can cover a wide variety of expenses during the process, including vast recruiting departments, transportation, visits and much more. While spending does not guarantee success, seven of the last eight titles were won by schools in the top three in recruiting spending: Georgia, Alabama and Clemson (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/CLEM/clemson-tigers/). 

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 05, 2023, 06:06:30 PM
You haven't seen PJ Barnum?
Lol. On a serious note Hartline will probably be in the NFL or get a head coaching gig soon so the rest of the B1G won't have to deal with him for much longer thankfully. Hartline said on the Bussin' With the Boys podcast that he wants to coach in the NFL or get a head coaching gig somewhere in college one day and implied sooner rather than later. If he keeps pumping out high 1st rd NFL WRs and recruiting WRs like none else someone is going to hire him. Can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 05, 2023, 06:08:50 PM
I like the 4star RB they just got out of Texas, James Peoples.

https://247sports.com/Player/James-Peoples-46118013/
that dude was a must get for them imo after losing in-state stud Jordan Marshall to Michigan.

Michigan is going hard in Texas as well, they are hot after some OL's and the #1 RB in Texas as well, Taylor Tatum. Dude who runs the 247 Texas Horns Insider has CRYSTAL BALLLZ'd Tatum to Michigan. But we'll see if Marshall affects their standing with Tatum. Dude might not want to come into a class with another top 100 ranked player at RB.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 05, 2023, 07:14:48 PM
At this point with the way they recruit WRs it doesn't really matter who the QB is lol. Brian Hartline needs to get a head coaching gig somewhere else already. That man recruits and develops WRs like nothing I have ever seen...

(https://i.imgur.com/qYUsfVv.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 11:48:19 AM
College football recruiting expenses by conference: SEC stands out as Georgia spends big for success in 2022 - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-recruiting-expenses-by-conference-sec-stands-out-as-georgia-spends-big-for-success-in-2022/)

Zounds. 

How much does it cost to buy the resources necessary to win a national championship? If you ask the two-time reigning champion Georgia Bulldogs (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UGA/georgia-bulldogs/), the answer is $16,518,859. The Bulldogs spent that much between 2017-22 on recruiting expenses, which was more than $5 million more than any other program in the country over the same period, according to analysis of public records obtained by USA Today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/04/05/college-football-recruiting-budget-georgia-alabama-tennessee/11605732002/) for Power Five schools. The gap between Georgia and No. 2 spender Alabama (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/BAMA/alabama-crimson-tide/) almost matches the difference between Alabama and Nebraska (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/NEB/nebraska-cornhuskers/).

Recruiting budgets can cover a wide variety of expenses during the process, including vast recruiting departments, transportation, visits and much more. While spending does not guarantee success, seven of the last eight titles were won by schools in the top three in recruiting spending: Georgia, Alabama and Clemson (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/CLEM/clemson-tigers/).


My school really needs to step it up here.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 06, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
a good reason I have hope for my school
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 07, 2023, 03:05:39 PM
4* OT Andrew Sprague (6’8, 290) from Missouri commits to Michigan. 

They are laying the foundations for a hell of a QB/RB/OL/TE class. They have a 5* QB and they could conceivably wind up with the highest rated RB, OL, and TE classes if things fall their way. 

WR class gonna be lackluster however. Not very many top 100-250 overall WRs looking their way. Hey, we can’t all be Ohio St and get three 5* WRs every class.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 07, 2023, 03:53:02 PM
rumors/innuendo that 4* TE Brady Prieskorn (6’6, 225) may be making a surprise commitment to Michigan tonight. 

Prieskorn is the #51 player overall and #3 TE in the nation in the 247Composite. 

Michigan already has the commitment of 4* TE Hogan Hansen (6’6, 220) the #186 player overall and #10 TE in the nation in the 247Composite.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2023, 04:06:01 PM
It occurs to me that "recruiting news" is a lot like a football game, it really is a kind of game, or is treated as such by fans.  "We" read that "X" is leaning to sign with "Y" and then a week or so later "X" is seen having a good time at "Z".  Then "X" comes out with his "top 3" schools and everyone is as breathless as a fan gets when a pass is in the air.

I figure when "X" does actually commit, it's worth noting, a bit, and when he SIGNS then it's a real thing.  All the speculation about where he may COMMIT to going?  It doesn't mean much to me.  Maybe that's a luxury of being a fan of a team that recruits well enough, I can sit back and figure it'll turn out fine.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 07, 2023, 04:29:28 PM
I don't even worry too much when they "sign"

too many of those guys never play significant snaps

It is nice to see in-state talent stay home or see some high rated players sign with your program

it means your program is doing well at "the game" of recruiting
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 08, 2023, 09:41:17 AM
Then you factor in the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 08, 2023, 09:47:20 AM
Yeah, too much going on to get excited when some site says "X" has a 47% chance of attending "Y" according to their "crystal ball" ...

If he signs, fine, great, hope he does well etc., but as noted, he could bust and/or transfer or get injured.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 08, 2023, 02:36:24 PM
Then you factor in the transfer portal.
Yup. Former 5 star TE in Lincoln waiting on a waiver for his second transfer 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 08, 2023, 02:39:36 PM
Yay, I'm excited now ... even if this is 2025 ... Tight End U

Georgia landed another five-star in its 2025 class on Saturday. Folkston (Ga.) Charlton County edge/tight end  (https://247sports.com/Player/Elyiss-Williams-46133313)Elyiss Williams (https://247sports.com/Player/Elyiss-Williams-46133313) tells Dawgs247 he has committed to Georgia.
"I am 100 percent a Dawg," Williams said. "It was just the talks with Coach Smart and Coach Hartley. I grew up on Georgia Bulldogs! I have an opportunity to stay home and be a part of the dynasty. That is a tough decision to deny."
The 6-foot-7, 235-pound rising junior is considered the No. 12 overall prospect, No. 3 edge, and No. 3 overall recruit in Georgia for the 2025 class on 247Sports, but he is committed to playing tight end for Georgia assistant Todd Hartley (https://247sports.com/Coach/Todd-Hartley-1435). Since his arrival back in Athens in the 2020 recruiting cycle, Hartley has landed the No. 3 tight end in the 2020 cycle in Darnell Washington, the No. 2 tight end in the 2021 class in Brock Bowers (https://247sports.com/Player/Brock-Bowers-46082532), the No. 1 tight end in the 2022 class in Oscar Delp (https://247sports.com/Player/Oscar-Delp-46098327), the No. 2 and No. 5 tight ends in the 2023 class in Lawson Luckie (https://247sports.com/Player/Lawson-Luckie-46103644) and Pearce Spurlin (https://247sports.com/Player/Pearce-Spurlin-46103170), and has the nation's No. 1 tight end for the 2024 cycle committed in Landen Thomas (https://247sports.com/Player/Landen-Thomas-46114093). Now, he has the highest-rated tight end in the 2025 cycle as well.


Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 08, 2023, 02:43:19 PM
Hah, the 5 star transfer at UNL came from UGA
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 08, 2023, 02:48:20 PM
He came from LSU to UGA and seemed to have a lot of talent and an attitude.  Why he chose UGA is a mystery sitting behind Bowers and another first rounder.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 08, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
Yay, I'm excited now ... even if this is 2025 ... Tight End U

Georgia landed another five-star in its 2025 class on Saturday. Folkston (Ga.) Charlton County edge/tight end  (https://247sports.com/Player/Elyiss-Williams-46133313)Elyiss Williams (https://247sports.com/Player/Elyiss-Williams-46133313) tells Dawgs247 he has committed to Georgia.
"I am 100 percent a Dawg," Williams said. "It was just the talks with Coach Smart and Coach Hartley. I grew up on Georgia Bulldogs! I have an opportunity to stay home and be a part of the dynasty. That is a tough decision to deny."
The 6-foot-7, 235-pound rising junior is considered the No. 12 overall prospect, No. 3 edge, and No. 3 overall recruit in Georgia for the 2025 class on 247Sports, but he is committed to playing tight end for Georgia assistant Todd Hartley (https://247sports.com/Coach/Todd-Hartley-1435). Since his arrival back in Athens in the 2020 recruiting cycle, Hartley has landed the No. 3 tight end in the 2020 cycle in Darnell Washington, the No. 2 tight end in the 2021 class in Brock Bowers (https://247sports.com/Player/Brock-Bowers-46082532), the No. 1 tight end in the 2022 class in Oscar Delp (https://247sports.com/Player/Oscar-Delp-46098327), the No. 2 and No. 5 tight ends in the 2023 class in Lawson Luckie (https://247sports.com/Player/Lawson-Luckie-46103644) and Pearce Spurlin (https://247sports.com/Player/Pearce-Spurlin-46103170), and has the nation's No. 1 tight end for the 2024 cycle committed in Landen Thomas (https://247sports.com/Player/Landen-Thomas-46114093). Now, he has the highest-rated tight end in the 2025 cycle as well.
UGA is TE U at the moment. Kinda like OSU with WRs. If you're a 5 TE...you go to Georgia. If you're a 5 WR...you go to Ohio St. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2023, 07:36:55 AM
I'd like to see what Iowa could do with 5* TE's.

ND pretty good for TE's too.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 09, 2023, 07:59:21 AM
There are several high profile schools that do well with TEs of course.  Bowers made some highlight plays that put UGA "on the map" of late a bit.  But a 4/5* guy in the state of GA going to UGA?  Not gonna be a shocker.  Guy from say Napa going there?  Kinda unusual.

I think the same about "RBU" and whatever else, maybe for a period some program has some really good ones, OK, but everyone else of note would have good ones too.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2023, 08:05:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/giI2MrY.jpg)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on April 09, 2023, 08:07:02 AM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/36125619/ohio-state-lands-24-recruit-air-noland-losing-dylan-raiola
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 09, 2023, 09:51:22 AM
I'd like to see what Iowa could do with 5* TE's.

ND pretty good for TE's too.
well, Iowa doesn't throw to the WRs
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
UW got a good one today.

Thomas Heiberger, Jefferson, Linebacker (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Thomas-Heiberger-46137214/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 10, 2023, 02:19:46 PM
I'd like to see what Iowa could do with 5* TE's.
yeah I'd rather not see any Iowa offense...but I happen to be a guy who likes good offense.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 10, 2023, 02:21:55 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/36125619/ohio-state-lands-24-recruit-air-noland-losing-dylan-raiola
that's not a bad plan C at QB- getting a top 100 player at QB from the south with high upside. how many schools can do that in 'crootin? not many.

Day has that thing humming. And to think if he goes 11-1 this year but loses to Michigan in Ann Arbor there will be a huge contingent of OSU fans that want him fired lol.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 10, 2023, 02:24:15 PM
There are several high profile schools that do well with TEs of course.  Bowers made some highlight plays that put UGA "on the map" of late a bit.  But a 4/5* guy in the state of GA going to UGA?  Not gonna be a shocker.  Guy from say Napa going there?  Kinda unusual.

I think the same about "RBU" and whatever else, maybe for a period some program has some really good ones, OK, but everyone else of note would have good ones too.
Michigan could creep up in there at RB U. They already are at OL. Think they'll need Donovan Edwards are Blake Corum to both have giant seasons and if they win another Joe Moore Award their RB and OL 'crootin might shoot off into the stratosphere. Assuming Jeem doesn't fk it up and go visit NFL teams on signing day again....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on April 10, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Well yeah- in Columbus- if you don’t win every game there are morons calling for your head.  

But cooler heads will prevail.  Hell he came within a missed field goal of getting into the national championship game last season and that was without arguably his best five offensive players ( non QB). No Harrison, Smith-Njigba, Henderson, Williams or Stover. 

His overall record is beyond exquisite and nobody in the conference comes remotely close. He is a top 3 coach nationally if you go by results.  

Plus- his winning % in “The Game”
Is better than Jimmies- and that’s Without taking into account the two years he was offensive coordinator and card Michigan like a Thanksgiving turkey, and the Michigan chicken out year.

Also he’s great with the media, runs a super clean program, the players families love him. 

Sanity will prevail.  You can’t expect to beat Michigan every year- it is a premier program. But some dumbass fans think that way.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 04:10:44 PM
There is a contigent of fans at any major program wanting the coach fired unless they just won it, then there is a minor contingent.

Day is doing fine, I think, as noted, they would have clobbered TCU.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 08:23:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/hU98OCO.png)

Sam McKewon on Twitter: "An obscure NCAA bylaw may help Nebraska trim its scholarship numbers. From @EvanBlandOWH: https://t.co/imRMka1qDV" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/swmckewonOWH/status/1645522827246796803?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1645522827246796803|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 11, 2023, 09:36:17 AM
Sam probably did more research on this than Rhule's staff
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 09:49:40 AM
Can anyone win the NC without recruiting in or near the top five for several years?

It's possible, obviously, but probably not going to happen.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 11, 2023, 09:53:24 AM
TCU had a shot
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 09:57:17 AM
Can anyone win the NC without recruiting in or near the top five for several years?

It's possible, obviously, but probably not going to happen.
Clemson did it, before they truly became a recruiting machine.

They were #8 for 2016, which was the first championship year for Dabo.

2015: 10
2014: 16
2013: 15
2012: 20
2011: 10
2010: 27 Dabo's first full class
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 10:04:44 AM
I know Clemson did it, in the past, I was more thinking about the future.  

I think in CFB, you might hit 2-3 superb players at key positions and be able to do it even if the rest of your guys are 3 starish but develop well.

You get a Joe Burrow and a couple others on offense and put together a gritty defense ... maybe.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 11, 2023, 01:22:15 PM
Can anyone win the NC without recruiting in or near the top five for several years?

It's possible, obviously, but probably not going to happen.
Clemson did it a couple times. 

They had a great defensive coach who built elite front 7's on defense and they had 5* recruit, 1st rd NFL draft QBs like DeShaun Watson and Trevor Lawerence. 

I think that's the only way you can do it without 'crootin top 5 classes all the time. You need an elite front 7 on defense and you need an elite QB. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 16, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Michigan "insider" Sam Webb puts in a pair of crystal BALLZ with a high confidence level for a pair of OL's. 

OT 4* Blake Frazier (6'5, 260) from Texas and C 3* Jake Guarnera (6'3.5, 290) from Florida. Guarnera is a "lowly" 3* but was the #1 center on Sherrone Moore's board according to Webb. Michigan will be taking 6-7 OLs in '24.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2023, 04:52:11 PM
2022 Big Ten football recruiting budgets
Michigan: $2,240,064
Rutgers: $1,609,032
Penn State: $1,486,521
Maryland: $1,380,974
Ohio State: $1,292,799
Illinois: $1,157,460
Minnesota: $1,127,389
Nebraska: $1,020,050
Michigan State: $955,303
Purdue: $878,651
Wisconsin: $857,490
Indiana: $826,713
Iowa: $577,589
Average annual recruiting budget, 2017-22
Michigan: $1,353,431
Penn State: $1,240,848
Nebraska: $937,279
Minnesota: $904,139
Rutgers: $879,494
Ohio State: $845,113
Illinois: $749,850
Michigan State: $721,879
Maryland: $683,200
Indiana: $606,147
Purdue: $602,360
Iowa: $459,128
Wisconsin: $392,724
Big Ten and national recruiting rankings, Class of 2023
Ohio State (5th nationally)
Penn State (13th)
Michigan (17th)
Michigan State (23rd)
Nebraska (24th)
Maryland (36th)
Iowa (40th)
Illinois (43rd)
Minnesota (44th)
Northwestern (46th)
Rutgers (57th)
Wisconsin (58th)
Purdue (67th)
Indiana (72nd)


Iowa: The ultimate bang for your buck
There’s a line from The Music Man that feels pertinent to Iowa’s recruiting budget. From the song “Iowa Stubborn”:

What the heck, you’re welcome

Join us at the picnic

You can have your fill of all the food you bring yourself

Some 65 years after that was written, the nature of Iowa hasn’t changed much. Nice place. Just don’t expect anybody to splurge to impress you.

The Hawkeyes spent 12th of the 13 available schools in 2022, and are dead last in the category over the 5-year average. No word on whether recruits had to pack their own sack lunches.

Yet Kirk Ferentz still turned that into the Big Ten’s No. 7 signing class in 2023. And Iowa has never finished worse than 8-5 in the past 5 years. You can always count on the Hawkeyes doing more with less.

Though you can’t help but wonder what might happen if Iowa ever tried doing more with more.


Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 16, 2023, 06:01:20 PM
4* OT Blake Frazier (6'5, 260) of Texas commits to Michigan. Michigan has the #3 class in the nation at the moment, UGA is #1 and Ohio State is #2.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2023, 06:03:27 PM
260#?

gonna need some pancakes
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 16, 2023, 06:08:53 PM
260#?

gonna need some pancakes
I'd much rather take a tackle in HS with that frame and throw weight on him than a kid that's already 6'5, 340 imo.

Taylor Lewan was about 6'7, 275 when he got to Michigan. Wound up working his way up to 310+ over a couple years of S&C and he was by far the best LT that Michigan has had in at least the last 15 years- and it's not particularly close.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2023, 06:11:19 PM
agreed
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 16, 2023, 09:17:45 PM
2022 Big Ten football recruiting budgets
Michigan: $2,240,064
That's gotta be part of the NIL money they're giving those passing thru the portal
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 06:04:38 AM
NIL money is completely different from recruiting expenses, isn't it?

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 06:08:03 AM
I saw some notes about Bear Alexander, the soph NT that entered the portal from UGA.  Imagine you are a pretty high profile NT anywhere, you can enter the portal and "test the waters", if money matters that much, there is no downside is there?

He can still return to UGA (probably won't).  An NT isn't going to offer the power of NIL that a QB could, but some car dealership somewhere might offer him a load just to get him on board.  

(On ungruntled fan said he was failing his courses and wanted to go to an easier school like Wisconsin or USC ...).

This is in need of better regulation I think.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2023, 08:26:00 AM
NIL money is completely different from recruiting expenses, isn't it?


Yes.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2023, 08:27:45 AM
A prominent UW donor owns this company.

Private Jet Charter Company (wheelsup.com) (https://wheelsup.com/)

UW does not pay for recruiting flights. So the budget is a little out of whack for them.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 08:32:03 AM
I imagine all the budgets are "fudged" one way or the other.  I see Kirby Smart likes to arrive by helo at games to see players play to make a splash.

And of course your recruiting footprint is going to be a factor as well.

“I think those numbers are skewed a bit because we don’t have our own airplane or our jet,” McGarity said, according to the Athens Banner-Herald (https://www.onlineathens.com/sports/20200220/as-recruiting-expenses-jump-uga-athletics-eyes-owning-plane-again). “Some schools calculate it differently. If we had a jet, we’d certainly cover other expenses in a different category. Right now when we lease an aircraft we just pay the going rate. We just pay straight out for any charter services it would use as opposed to having an aircraft which some schools do. … Cost may be hidden in another category as far as how it’s accounted for. Having gone through that at Florida, which had two aircraft at the time, I know how the expenses are accounted for with aircraft. It’s a little bit different. It’s never really apples and apples, but it kind of is what it is to be able to recruit nationally.”



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 17, 2023, 09:40:06 AM
NIL money is completely different from recruiting expenses, isn't it?


if you are complying with the rules
most Buckeye fans know Michigan cheats
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 17, 2023, 10:46:51 PM
NIL money is completely different from recruiting expenses, isn't it?


Prolly I dunno I'm making shyt up it's Michigan after all
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2023, 09:00:32 AM
I'd take these recruiting budget numbers with a pinch of salt.  The NIL thing continues to trouble me for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 20, 2023, 05:06:57 PM
I saw some notes about Bear Alexander, the soph NT that entered the portal from UGA.  Imagine you are a pretty high profile NT anywhere, you can enter the portal and "test the waters", if money matters that much, there is no downside is there?

He can still return to UGA (probably won't).  An NT isn't going to offer the power of NIL that a QB could, but some car dealership somewhere might offer him a load just to get him on board. 

(On ungruntled fan said he was failing his courses and wanted to go to an easier school like Wisconsin or USC ...).

This is in need of better regulation I think.


As the NCAA transfer portal opened on Monday, a surprising name quickly hopped in. Georgia defensive lineman Bear Alexander will be leaving the back-to-back national champions after just one season with the program.

Alexander spoke with On3’s Hayes Fawcett, revealing which schools have reached out to him since entering the portal. Schools from across the country are seemingly interested in Alexander, with 16 teams being mentioned. A fun recruitment seems to be on deck.

Arizona State
Colorado
Florida
Houston
Memphis
Miami
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oregon
Penn State
Purdue
SMU
Texas
Texas Tech
USC
Wyoming
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 20, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
I guess a 3rd string NT from UGA would be in high demand....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 20, 2023, 06:20:46 PM
I saw some notes about Bear Alexander, the soph NT that entered the portal from UGA.  Imagine you are a pretty high profile NT anywhere, you can enter the portal and "test the waters", if money matters that much, there is no downside is there?

He can still return to UGA (probably won't).  An NT isn't going to offer the power of NIL that a QB could, but some car dealership somewhere might offer him a load just to get him on board. 

(On ungruntled fan said he was failing his courses and wanted to go to an easier school like Wisconsin or USC ...).

This is in need of better regulation I think.


Only if UGA wants him back. Once you hit the portal, the school is under no obligation to continue the scholarship.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 20, 2023, 07:33:26 PM
I guess a 3rd string NT from UGA would be in high demand....
apparently he made a nice play vs TCU 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 22, 2023, 12:16:01 PM
Nebraska’s defense will receive a boost this fall as they added the No. 43 linebacker in the 2024 cycle. Three-star linebacker Willis McGahee IV announced his commitment to the Cornhuskers on Saturday.

McGahee currently plays for Christopher Columbus High School in Miami, Florida. At 6’2 and 215 pounds, the 3-star LB is the No. 413 overall prospect and the No. 59 player in Florida. McGahee is also the son of Miami Hurricanes standout and NFL star Willis McGahee.

McGahee is currently the fourth commitment of the Cornhuskers’ 2024 recruiting haul. He joins 4-star safety Roger Gradney, 3-star interior offensive lineman Gibson Pyle, and 3-star defensive lineman Ashton Murphy in the 2024 class.

 The current recruiting class ranks as the No. 25 class in the country and the No. 7 class in the B1G.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 22, 2023, 01:29:35 PM
Only if UGA wants him back. Once you hit the portal, the school is under no obligation to continue the scholarship.
My sense is the Dawgs are finished with him, I don't know the details.  They had a very good OT portal last year and return to the team and start.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2023, 12:59:43 PM
4* TE Brady Prieskorn (6'6, 225) - the #56 player overall in the nation and #2 TE in the 247Composite and 4* DL Jerod Smith (6'3, 265) - the #270 player overall in the nation and #30 DL committing today. All signs point to Michigan for both. 

They're announcing in a couple hours, but if Jeem secures verbals for both today, he will have the #1 'crootin class in 'Merica with serious momentum on the trail to land more 'croots. This might wind up being the best 'crootin year Jeem has ever had. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2023, 03:24:05 PM
4* TE Brady Prieskorn (6'6, 225) has committed to Michigan. Big-time pick up for their TE room. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on April 25, 2023, 03:25:28 PM
4* TE Brady Prieskorn (6'6, 225) has committed to Michigan. Big-time pick up for their TE room.
Michigan does a nice job of utilizing their TEs.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2023, 03:28:51 PM
4* TE Brady Prieskorn (6'6, 225) has committed to Michigan. Big-time pick up for their TE room.
Hopefully helps MSU land in state 4* Dylan Mesman.  Granted he doesn't have a commitable UM offer.  I think Auburn, Kentucky, Miami and Minnesota are his other contenders
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2023, 03:30:17 PM
Michigan does a nice job of utilizing their TEs. 
Agreed. If only they could figure out how to utilize their WRs a little better lol.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 25, 2023, 03:45:49 PM
Booger is killing it this year so far.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2023, 03:52:23 PM
Booger is killing it this year so far.
yeah he really is. supposedly 4* DL Jerod Smith is set to commit to Michigan today. If/when he does- Michigan will have the #1 class in 'Merica per the 247Composite team rankings. Don't think Jeem has ever been at #1 at any point in the 'croot rankings.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 25, 2023, 04:30:42 PM
Also gotta look at the overall score by average player rating. It's a key thing.

(https://i.imgur.com/6yAJyHE.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2023, 04:31:34 PM
Which is why MSU is DOOOOOOOOMED
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2023, 08:55:23 PM
Michigan lands 4* DL Jerod Smith, and now currently has the #1 class. Jeem doing work. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2023, 09:38:16 PM
#Nebraska lands the son of Willis McGahee III, a former NFL running back. Welcome to the fam, Willis 🥳 #GBR
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 26, 2023, 07:35:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/k7O1hQ0.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 26, 2023, 02:57:57 PM
buzz from 247Sports top national 'crootin analyst Steve Witflong and the OSU247 mods/site as well is that 4* CB Aaron Scott (6'0, 170) of Ohio, the #61 player overall in the nation, #7 CB, and #2 player in the state of Ohio in the 247Composite- is leaning Michigan. Would be a huge get for Jeem to land #2 and #3 players in Ohio and pair of top 100 overall kids- one at CB and the other at RB (Jordan Marshall). 

It'll be a battle for Jeem to hang onto the lead and get the kid to sign, but right now appears to be Michigan-OSU-Oregon battle with Jeem holding the edge at the moment. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 27, 2023, 11:10:34 AM
This was a wild one. Came down to UW and Nebraska, I glean, since he visited UNL just last weekend. MSU, Pitt and PSU were the others in his top 5, but I don't think the PSU offer was real.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y12vaZ8.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 27, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
4* EDGE Brian Robinson (6'5, 255) from the state of Ohio scheduled his official to Michigan. Robinson is rated as the #125 player overall in the nation, #11 EDGE, and #4 player in the state of Ohio in the 247Composite. He's brand new to the position, just started playing EDGE/DE as a junior- he had been playing QB/WR before from what I understand. His size/frame and athletic profile all look A+ - which is probably why he's ranked so high at the moment- because apparently he just hasn't played the position much yet. Could be one that rises up the ranking boards with a big senior season- because when you see the kid looks like the freaking prototype OLB/DE in terms of size/length/frame. 

Jeem attacking the state of Ohio hard right now. Love it. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 27, 2023, 07:04:26 PM
5* QB Bryce Underwood (6'3, 210) - the #1 QB and #3 player overall in the nation in the 247Composite for the 2025 class making an unofficial visit to Michigan today. This has got to be like the 4th or 5th visit in the last month plus since Matt Weiss was fired and new QB coach Kirk Campbell was announced.

Huge news and he's by far my #1 wishlist with a bullet for the 2025 class. He's going to wind up the #1 player in the '25 class when it's all said and done and he's the best QB prospect to come out of the state of Michigan since Drew Henson, and it's not really close. He may just wind up being the best QB prospect to come along since Trevor Lawerence if he continues on the development arc he's been on since he was like a 13 year old freshman starting for varsity. I believe he's a year young for his grade- he's only like 15 and already 6'3-ish with A+ athleticism and a rocket launcher arm.

Michigan was dead in the water with this one, but they are right back in it near the top. LSU, Bama, and Ohio State are all coming after him hard though and will be a pain in the ass.

Jadyn Davis is a really good QB prospect. Underwood is next level.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2023, 09:45:27 AM
Dylan Raiola still trending toward Georgia, but USC, Nebraska 'hanging around' for No. 1 QB (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Dylan-Raiola-still-trending-toward-Georgia-but-USC-Nebraska-hanging-around-for-No-1-QB-209076438/?fbclid=IwAR2zb6WhxqPPEGEOcdpq_6WaHE35dUpvA6ZzaOFDfR5-5IFL3j0B4yzX2I8)

Where do you think he should go?  (I'd say USC at this point.)

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 28, 2023, 09:47:31 AM
Dylan Raiola still trending toward Georgia, but USC, Nebraska 'hanging around' for No. 1 QB (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Dylan-Raiola-still-trending-toward-Georgia-but-USC-Nebraska-hanging-around-for-No-1-QB-209076438/?fbclid=IwAR2zb6WhxqPPEGEOcdpq_6WaHE35dUpvA6ZzaOFDfR5-5IFL3j0B4yzX2I8)

Where do you think he should go?  (I'd say USC at this point.)
hard to discount Lincoln Riley's track record with QBs. If I was a top rated QB, I think USC and Ohio State would be my top choices.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on April 28, 2023, 09:59:05 AM
hard to discount Lincoln Riley's track record with QBs. If I was a top rated QB, I think USC and Ohio State would be my top choices.
Yup
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2023, 10:04:44 AM
What is the appeal here of Nebraska?  Starting first year?  NIL?

He likely would not start first year at UGA, he might later in the year, he'd get some PT for sure.  They are pretty loaded at QB right now if nobody portals.  I presume Beck (probable starter this year) will NFL out next draft, leaving a couple younger guys who are said to be quite talented.



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2023, 10:08:42 AM
What is the appeal here of Nebraska?  Starting first year?  NIL?

He likely would not start first year at UGA, he might later in the year, he'd get some PT for sure.  They are pretty loaded at QB right now if nobody portals.  I presume Beck (probable starter this year) will NFL out next draft, leaving a couple younger guys who are said to be quite talented.




His dad went to UNL and starred at center. His uncle is the OL coach at UNL (he played at UW).
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 28, 2023, 11:10:18 AM
the kid might get early playing time at Bama.  Not a bad place to groom for the NFL

I hope he waits to see what the Husker offense looks like and how the QB performs there.
If the offense really performs and they win 6 or 7 games, I think UNL has a chance to land him.

be tough for a new offense to perform real well in the Big Ten, but........
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 28, 2023, 12:45:34 PM
the kid might get early playing time at Bama.  Not a bad place to groom for the NFL

I hope he waits to see what the Husker offense looks like and how the QB performs there.
If the offense really performs and they win 6 or 7 games, I think UNL has a chance to land him.

be tough for a new offense to perform real well in the Big Ten, but........
Bama just went after freaking Tyler Buchner (who sucks) bc their QB room was such hot garbage....

This kid would start at Bama this year if he could skip his senior year of high school.....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 28, 2023, 12:49:08 PM
5* WR Ryan Wingo (6'2, 205) from Missouri - the #22 player overall and #5 WR in the nation in the 247Composite - schedules an official visit to Michigan. Bit of a surprise, didn't know Michigan was even in the top 5. He's also taking OVs to Texas, Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee.

Tennessee is the presumed leader, Missouri the home state school that has a track record of getting 5* in-state kids to stay home for some weird ass reason...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 28, 2023, 05:24:18 PM
Michigan adds 3* C Jake Guarnera (6’4, 290) from the state of Florida. 

Guarnera was Sheronne Moore’s #1 center on the board and is the 5th OL commit for Michigan’s 2024 class.

They’ll be taking 6, possibly even 7 OLs if a blue chipper decides they want it. Keep stacking the los. I’m all for that.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on April 28, 2023, 11:26:28 PM
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1650875894100111362?t=vJsGGGF_nhhXcftn8K4x2g&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2023, 08:58:11 AM
hopefully it was Warren Buffet's group and they are moving it to Nebraska
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on April 29, 2023, 01:03:07 PM
Hopefully helps MSU land in state 4* Dylan Mesman.  Granted he doesn't have a commitable UM offer.  I think Auburn, Kentucky, Miami and Minnesota are his other contenders
looks like he just committed to Louisville. Looks like Louisville continues to have their NIL bag game on point. Won't say it's a huge blow to Mel, maybe a glancing one? Kid is an in-stater and both parents are MSU grads and he picks....Louisville?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2023, 12:19:04 PM
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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 06, 2023, 10:57:23 AM
Nebraska lands ATH Keelan Smith, son of legendary pass rusher Neil Smith

Neil Smith is revving engines as the Kansas Motor Speedway's NASCAR grand marshal on Sunday, his alma mater pushed the recruitment of three-star athlete Keelan Smith across the finish line.

Keelan Smith, a "hybrid" receiver who can play running back or tight end, committed to Nebraska and coach Matt Rhule on Friday. The Missouri native had 11 touchdowns as a junior last season and is expected to remain in the Class of 2024 rather than reclassify. At 6-3, 209, he's viewed as a prospect at outside linebacker in addition to the offensive role.

Neil Smith's college teammate, Danny Noonan, also has a son in the Huskers' 2024 recruiting class: defensive end Maverick Noonan. Danny Noonan was the No. 12 pick in the 1987 NFL Draft by the Dallas Cowboys.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 07, 2023, 04:59:24 PM
3* WR Channing Goodwin (6'1, 180) of North Carolina commits to Michigan. Goodwin is the son of former Michigan OL Jonathan Goodwin and the high school teammate of  5* Michigan QB commit Jadyn Davis. Goodwin is ranked in the 247Composite as the #511 player overall, the #72 WR, and the #15 player in North Carolina. 247's own rankings are much higher on him, they rate him as the #241 player overall, #38 WR, and #7 player in North Carolina.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2023, 08:41:37 AM
That's a good pickup for booger.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 08, 2023, 02:01:24 PM
That's a good pickup for booger.
yeah, I think he's got a real shot to rise up in the composite rankings. I do think his teammate WR Jordan Shipp might be better though. Shipp is rated as a 4* in the composite and as the #407 player overall and #13 player in North Carolina. I think he's a UNC legacy, has lot of ties there- so they are up there- and Georgia is coming after him strong right now- so he might be a tough pull. 

Doesn't hurt Jeem that he's got his HS QB and his running mate at WR already in the fold. Shipp is too close to call but Jeem has a real good shot in that one.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2023, 04:03:36 PM
It will be interesting to see how UNC does without that Longo offense.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 09, 2023, 12:14:48 PM
It will be interesting to see how UNC does without that Longo offense.
they still have Drake Maye, who just might be the #1 overall pick in 2024. If Maye really is that dude, shouldn't fall off a cliff too much. What happens to that offense in 2024 after Maye & Longo both gone....well....it will probably suck lol.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2023, 08:37:37 AM
It will be interesting to see how UNC does without that Longo offense.
Every time I tune them in they look weak in both lines, to me, even against ACC opponents.  They should play USCe each year I think.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 11, 2023, 08:57:45 AM
They led the ACC is rushing yards last year.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2023, 09:00:16 AM
They also lost to Georgia Tech, who also is very weak in both lines.

I don't watch UNC often, but that has been a consistent problem for them over years in my view.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 11, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
They led the ACC is rushing yards last year.
ain't that a bit like being the tallest midget in midget land? 

They might've also been able to lead the ACC in rushing because their passing game was so lethal. I doubt they saw very many stacked boxes gearing up to shut down the run. Not when Drake Maye is the QB. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2023, 10:15:45 AM
Broadly speaking, the major difference in play between the B1G and SEC versus everyone else is line play.  Wisconsin consistently exceeds whatever recruiting ratings they have because of line play, it's no secret, they are a tough out in general.  Michigan has had very good lines of late and it shows (not enough against TCU somehow).  This is sort of the Saban/Smart technique, build your lines and recruit enough skill players that some one star JUCO transfer can be a good QB.

OU and Nebbie and Texas used to be like this, but they aren't now.  USC has awful DL play.  Oregon got smacked by UGA because of a porous line (duh).
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 11, 2023, 10:22:54 AM
Broadly speaking, the major difference in play between the B1G and SEC versus everyone else is line play.  Wisconsin consistently exceeds whatever recruiting ratings they have because of line play, it's no secret, they are a tough out in general.  Michigan has had very good lines of late and it shows (not enough against TCU somehow).  This is sort of the Saban/Smart technique, build your lines and recruit enough skill players that some one star JUCO transfer can be a good QB.

OU and Nebbie and Texas used to be like this, but they aren't now.  USC has awful DL play.  Oregon got smacked by UGA because of a porous line (duh).
Michigan just crapped the bed, but not sure they lost it because of line play. They put up a bazillion yards of offense and scored 45 points and their actual defense gave up 37. JJ threw two pretty awful INT's right to defenders which both went for TD's. Not to mention they fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line about to score a TD after they got boned the play before on a terrible overturn of a long touchdown bomb. That's 7 off the board....so should've scored 52 pts on offense and if not for JJ throwing atrocious pick 6's it's 52-37. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. 

Don't think line play had anything to do with their loss. Just tried to get too cute plus a lot of comedy of errors on offense and some poor tackling on defense in some bad spots. That's my 2 cents anyway. They just kinda sh!t the bed. It happens. And that seems to happen a lot with Jeem in the post season at Michigan. His bowl record there is atrocious. Took him awhile to get that OSU monkey off his back, and right now he's got a post season monkey on his back. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2023, 10:30:56 AM
My point is their line play was not enough against TCU somehow.

I wasn't blaming that for the loss obviously.  UGA shredded them.  When you demolish the lines on both sides, you win the game.  Vandy was a tougher opponent.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 12, 2023, 02:26:12 PM
My point is their line play was not enough against TCU somehow.

I wasn't blaming that for the loss obviously.  UGA shredded them.  When you demolish the lines on both sides, you win the game.  Vandy was a tougher opponent.
my guess here is TCU blew their entire wad on Michigan....and still barely escaped that game. Once they busted their nut vs Michigan....they were going to be slim pickens for OSU or UGA. No way they were pulling off two huge upsets in a row. They flat out just blew their load vs M and there was no way they were going to get it up again for UGA.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 12, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
I'd guess a highly motivated TCU still gets wasted by UGA or OSU.  Big people move smaller people.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 12, 2023, 02:38:03 PM
Michigan had bigger people

big enuff to move Ohio St.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 12, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
The were big but lacked SEC speed ...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on May 12, 2023, 02:48:26 PM
Looking at the Football Outsiders metrics, UNC OL was solid in passing downs, but was otherwise pretty bad.  Bottom half of FBS in every other metric
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 12, 2023, 07:53:00 PM
3* LB/ATH Cole Sullivan (6'3, 200) of Pennsylvania commits to Michigan. Sullivan recently picked up offers from Notre Dame, Penn State, Wisconsin, Miami, and Michigan and is a guy that apparently Jeem was the driving force in going after. According to the "insiders" the Michigan staff views him as very similar player to Chase Winovich, who was one of Jeem's favorites. 

If this kid is even half of Chase Winovich, Jeem will have gotten himself a pretty good player. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PM
Michigan had bigger people

big enuff to move Ohio St.
clearly obvious to me that Michigan has their focus on one thing now: Ohio State. As they should. That is the game that defines you there as a player, as a coach. 

I think Michigan quite frankly was just arrogant and didn't take TCU as seriously as they should have. It happens. They probably didn't think there was any way in hell TCU would beat them....til they did. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2023, 04:20:51 AM
A good P5 team usually plays 2-5 games that are competitive in a year, the rest are against clearly inferior opponents (who can upset you).  I'm talking about a #3 ranked team who would play #20, #12, and #4 in a season, then the CG against say #8.  They usually get "up", motivated, for these games.  Then you get into the playoffs and don't get up or take seriously ANY opponent?

Maybe so.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2023, 09:18:18 AM
very common for SEC teams in bowl games that are meaningless
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2023, 11:10:25 AM
very common for SEC teams in bowl games that are meaningless
Sure, with opt outs etc., but we're talking a playoff game here.  UGA has a weak slate this year after losing the OU game, they really only have one contested game (apparently) before playoffs.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2023, 11:29:18 AM
I understand the kids at Michigan overlooking TCU

after rolling through the Big Ten and handling the Buckeyes, they matchup with a much smaller TCU that didn't even win the Big 12.

I'd guess many of the players didn't know what TCU stood for or where they were located
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2023, 11:36:47 AM
A UGA coach mentioned pregame to an announcer that "Big people move small people" with an air of confidence, apparently.  We've all see our teams have a truly bad outing.  You hope it's against a Missouri or Kent State.  If it's against a half decent team, you either lose of nearly lose.

UGA could easily have lost two games last year, Mizzou and Ohio State.  I don't think they took Mizzou lightly, they just misfired on offense a LOT.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2023, 11:45:52 AM
Michigan could have easily lost to Illinois

until TCU, which they did lose to, easily
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 15, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
No. 1 2024 recruit Dylan Raiola commits to Georgia (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Dylan-Raiola-commits-Georgia-football-recruiting-Kirby-Smart-5-star-208542318/?fbclid=IwAR37aPKpgXxAYHFhMsusC1yk-b-qSoYSuO7MGbKmjVdo0FWIu_O4wzg1tqQ)

Might help their recruiting ratings some ...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 15, 2023, 01:38:14 PM
Damn!
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 15, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
No. 1 2024 recruit Dylan Raiola commits to Georgia (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Dylan-Raiola-commits-Georgia-football-recruiting-Kirby-Smart-5-star-208542318/?fbclid=IwAR37aPKpgXxAYHFhMsusC1yk-b-qSoYSuO7MGbKmjVdo0FWIu_O4wzg1tqQ)

Might help their recruiting ratings some ...
UGA just jumped to #2 in the class rankings over....Ohio State....the school that Raiola was originally committed to. 

Big time get for Kirby Smart.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on May 15, 2023, 10:05:36 PM
About time Georgia got a break over Nebraska
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 17, 2023, 11:22:01 AM
Dylan Raiola commitment summons reaction from Ohio State five-star WR, others (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/dylan-raiola-commitment-summons-reaction-from-ohio-state-five-st-210361913/#2169390)

I think "folks" are getting ahead of their skis a bit here.  But it's the nature of the game.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 17, 2023, 02:24:11 PM
Dylan Raiola commitment summons reaction from Ohio State five-star WR, others (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/dylan-raiola-commitment-summons-reaction-from-ohio-state-five-st-210361913/#2169390)

I think "folks" are getting ahead of their skis a bit here.  But it's the nature of the game.
Georgia is the king sh!t in CFB right now, no doubts about that. 

Having said that...if I am a WR there is no way in hell I'm going to Georgia over Ohio State. Marv is about to be a top 5 pick and Emeka Ebugka could probably play himself into a 1st rd pick with a big season in '23. The insane run of WRs they've been on...they're WR-U right now.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM
I'd lean to Ohio State also unless they are so stacked are WR I might not get much PT.  A lot of factors are now at play.  I don't see UGA changing much from the Moncken approach to offensive balance, and they could end up blowing a lot of opponents out without passing much at all with their schedule.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 17, 2023, 07:18:54 PM
Are we pretending UGA hasn't recruited numerous 5* QBs under Smart?
The real question is where he'll be transferring to.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 18, 2023, 01:12:29 PM
Are we pretending UGA hasn't recruited numerous 5* QBs under Smart?
The real question is where he'll be transferring to.
that’s actually a good point….

Jacob Eason, Justin Fields, JT Daniels, and Brock Vandagriff we’re all 5*’s. Daniels was a transfer, but still very highly rated. None of them did anything at UGA. Vandagriff still has a shot maybe, but sounds like he’s lost the starting job to Carson Beck.

UGA didn’t go next level as a program til a 30 year old walk on took over. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 19, 2023, 12:02:42 PM
Folks seem to think Riola is "special" beyond being a five star.  The Dawgs have a 4 star commit that same class (Puglisi?).  And they have as noted two sophomores, one 4 and one 5, and a junior, Carson Beck, a 4, who is the likely starter.  So, they are stacked, for now, and yes, some of those guys will portal.

Vandagriff is from just outside Athens, he might think being QB2 at UGA is fine with him.

If we presume Riola is the best thing since Matt Stafford, he could come in and red shirt year and be ready to start in year two presuming he can beat out Puglisi and Vandagriff, or maybe V leaves.  Some Dawgs think Riola will bring in other 5 stars, who knows.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 19, 2023, 01:31:28 PM
Folks seem to think Riola is "special" beyond being a five star.  The Dawgs have a 4 star commit that same class (Puglisi?).  And they have as noted two sophomores, one 4 and one 5, and a junior, Carson Beck, a 4, who is the likely starter.  So, they are stacked, for now, and yes, some of those guys will portal.

Vandagriff is from just outside Athens, he might think being QB2 at UGA is fine with him.

If we presume Riola is the best thing since Matt Stafford, he could come in and red shirt year and be ready to start in year two presuming he can beat out Puglisi and Vandagriff, or maybe V leaves.  Some Dawgs think Riola will bring in other 5 stars, who knows. 
there are definitely levels to the 5* ranking. Raiola is atop that 5* ranking food chain. Justin Fields was basically rated just as high, he was a 1B to Trevor Lawerence's 1A. Fields wound up being a phenomenal college player and top 10 NFL draft pick....just not at Georgia.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2023, 09:25:15 AM
Georgia lands Dylan Raiola: No. 1 recruit in 2024 class hopes to continue trend of successful top-ranked QBs - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-lands-dylan-raiola-no-1-recruit-in-2024-class-hopes-to-continue-trend-of-successful-top-ranked-qbs/)

Nice summary of how recent highly rated QBs have fared, it's more hit or miss than one might expect with a lot of transfers.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 21, 2023, 11:28:02 AM
Georgia lands Dylan Raiola: No. 1 recruit in 2024 class hopes to continue trend of successful top-ranked QBs - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-lands-dylan-raiola-no-1-recruit-in-2024-class-hopes-to-continue-trend-of-successful-top-ranked-qbs/)

Nice summary of how recent highly rated QBs have fared, it's more hit or miss than one might expect with a lot of transfers.
Sheesh. Jury is obviously still out on Drew Allar and Arch Manning as they are still so young, but aside from Trevor Lawerence and Bryce Young, that list is a whole bunch of MEH

Quinn Ewers is one the jury is still out on. He was pretty underwhelming last year and obviously in '21 he was backing up Stroud at OSU. He could make a leap this year. 

But yeah, most of those #1 QBs have not been all that. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 21, 2023, 11:37:56 AM
UGA's previous highly touted QB was Stafford, who was thrown into the fire as a freshman and had ups and downs, but anyone could see the talent.  He had a decent college career, folks like Aaron Murray put up much better stats, so did Jake Fromm and even Stetson and DJ Shockley.  A LOT of apparently really good college QBs hold clipboards in the league and nothing else.  It would be interesting to understand what facet is missing in them, and present in the Staffords.  Some could just be opportunity and the right fit.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 21, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
It would be interesting to understand what facet is missing in them, and present in the Staffords.  Some could just be opportunity and the right fit.
Lol that one is easy. Size/arm talent. Stafford was around 6'3ish with ridiculous arm strength. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 21, 2023, 01:43:57 PM
If every great NFL QB was 6'3"ish with ridiculous arm strength, I might buy that.  And why doesn't an apparently great college QB make for a great NFL QB?

Raiola is 6'3"ish with ridiculous army strength, so is he an NFL lock?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EastAthens on May 21, 2023, 11:42:20 PM
UGA's previous highly touted QB was Stafford, who was thrown into the fire as a freshman and had ups and downs, but anyone could see the talent.  He had a decent college career, folks like Aaron Murray put up much better stats, so did Jake Fromm and even Stetson and DJ Shockley.  A LOT of apparently really good college QBs hold clipboards in the league and nothing else.  It would be interesting to understand what facet is missing in them, and present in the Staffords.  Some could just be opportunity and the right fit.
The answer is the ability to throw deep outs, that is to stand between the hash marks and throw a ball 25 yards deep to the sidelines on a line which is a throw of 50 yards or so.   Mere mortals cannot throw a ball 50 yards on a line. Deep outs are why Matt Stafford and Jay Cutler are millionaires and Aaron Murray and Tim Tebow are standing behind microphones even though Tebow and Murray were much better college qbs.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 06:41:52 AM
Do you think every very good and better NFL QB can throw those deep out patterns?  Does it matter if they are 6'3"ish?  

I'm more familiar with baseball where the ability to throw 100 mph is "nice", but plenty of HoFers never got near that speed.  Probably not a good analogy.

But if NFL QBs can be assessed using a single metric, or nearly so, it should be simple to draft the right guy.  I agree that the ability to throw a deep out is a key ingredient, but perhaps not the sole ingredient, we can all note failed NFL QBs who had enormous arm strength.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 07:07:35 AM
A reason I find this interesting is how many of the "top QBs in the past" have flammed out.  It's not a majority, but it's a significant minority.  It's pretty easy to assess arm strength and height, those two attributes are apparently not enough.  A third factor would be intelligence, perhaps the kind that is quick rather than deep, they need not be top calculus students, but they need to think quickly "on their feet".  I gather this NFL test they score relates to that, somewhat anyway (Wonderlic).

But we still see 6'3"ish recruits with high arm strength and good grades not pan out in college, or the pros.  At least in baseball you can note a 100 mph pitcher and see that he has poor control and can't master a second pitch and figure he needs more work.  But then there is Greg Maddux.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 08:18:27 AM
Let's stipulate these "rankings" are correct, do you think folks on this list who are fairly tall will be starting NFL QBs?  (I think some will of course, I wouldn't say all.)

(https://i.imgur.com/SBshvYu.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 22, 2023, 09:05:40 AM
there's something to be said for the biggest brains and biggest hearts

also agree with fit and opportunity
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 22, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
A day after decommitting from Missouri, Bellevue West quarterback Daniel Kaelin announces he’ll be a Husker.

Nebraska’s most recent quarterback commit for the 2024 class, Daniel Kaelin, joins some great company in being invited to the Elite 11 Finals in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
South Florida TE Colton Heinrich commits to Georgia (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Colton-Heinrich-commits-Georgia-Kirby-Smart-football-recruiting-210578375/?fbclid=IwAR0cdE86zCvjALtBZN7-wu-xYgG5DTsU0NtQwKgPa0kVn7AXDygEx0pd1vM)

I guess.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 12:57:29 PM
2024 Recruit Football Team Rankings (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/)

Kind of interesting to see FSU at 8 and South Carolina at 9 and Alabama at 16.  I know Bama often "closes late".  Florida is at 11 with only 8 commits, 4 five stars, so they could well end up much higher.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 22, 2023, 01:19:23 PM
The answer is the ability to throw deep outs, that is to stand between the hash marks and throw a ball 25 yards deep to the sidelines on a line which is a throw of 50 yards or so.  Mere mortals cannot throw a ball 50 yards on a line. Deep outs are why Matt Stafford and Jay Cutler are millionaires and Aaron Murray and Tim Tebow are standing behind microphones even though Tebow and Murray were much better college qbs.
this. 

we just saw Anthony Richardson, who was objectively NOT a great or even good college QB go top 5 in an NFL draft because of his size/arm/athleticism. 

when you're 6'3-6'6, 225+ and can throw a ball 70 yards on a line the NFL GMs get wet in the panties and draft you way higher than they should. happens all the time.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 22, 2023, 01:30:37 PM
this.

we just saw Anthony Richardson, who was objectively NOT a great or even good college QB go top 5 in an NFL draft because of his size/arm/athleticism.

when you're 6'3-6'6, 225+ and can throw a ball 70 yards on a line the NFL GMs get wet in the panties and draft you way higher than they should. happens all the time.
What I don't understand is why NFL GMs never seem to learn from this? 

I get that perhaps the value of having that "franchise QB" just MIGHT be worth throwing away massive draft capital on duds, but I'm not really so sure about that. 

Trade down. Stock your OL and DL with studs. Get the right skill position players. Build the foundation the QB needs to be successful and not getting hit every third dropback. THEN go find yourself a known quantity at QB--even if that means "overpaying" in the FA market...

Seems like it worked for the Bucs. And the Rams. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on May 23, 2023, 07:33:41 AM
If every great NFL QB was 6'3"ish with ridiculous arm strength, I might buy that.  And why doesn't an apparently great college QB make for a great NFL QB?

Raiola is 6'3"ish with ridiculous army strength, so is he an NFL lock?
no such thing as lock, but I'd say he's about as close as it gets. Top QB prospect in his class, only one I'd take over him is a '25 kid, Bryce Underwood. That dude is a unicorn. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 24, 2023, 11:51:07 AM
Nebraska eight-man football star invited to the All-American Bowl

The top high school football recruit in the state of Nebraska for 2024 has officially been invited to the 2024 All-American Bowl. Tight end Carter Nelson made the announcement on his Twitter page on Sunday evening.

The 4-star recruit from Ainsworth, Nebraska, is ranked as the top player in the state by three of the four major recruiting services. As a Junior, Nelson made 28 catches for 525 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2023, 10:25:31 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/349005122_2453145548196576_7729609764991795109_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=FgtC8Ml8DzMAX_cTOia&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAb8-z6Mk0c3x978NBR1L9tlMAvCStRYd24uw43fvhxAg&oe=647732A7)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 08, 2023, 11:05:08 PM
Four-star cornerback Mario Buford from DeSoto, Texas, announces his commitment to the Huskers.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 09, 2023, 12:33:25 PM
Four-star cornerback Mario Buford from DeSoto, Texas, announces his commitment to the Huskers.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on June 09, 2023, 01:42:16 PM
In to the Bud Fat there FF, try Bud Light 😁
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 13, 2023, 04:13:12 PM
Top 100 DL Jordan Thomas commits to Georgia (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Jordan-Thomas-commitment-Georgia-Bulldogs-football-recruiting-211519646/?fbclid=IwAR1278I0fVnMCjK_S2MBUo63MRPMtelnzm4PXZTKNQeLofTRGThDW65ThiM)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on June 17, 2023, 03:46:38 PM
Michigan gets a commitment from 3* RB Micah Kaapana (5'11, 195) from Nevada. Kid is criminally underrated imo. Plays for Las Vegas powerhouse Bishop Gorman, they play a national schedule and he plays vs some of the best HS competition in the USA. Had 1,000+ yards and 15 TD's on....70 carries last year as the #2 back on the team. He'll be the #1 RB on his team this year and probably put up video game #'s.

They were waiting on Taylor Tatum of Texas, the #1 RB in the country, but Kaapana was ready to pull the trigger now and Tatum wasn't, so Michigan RB's coach Mike Hart took him.

He's a home run hitter...give me these at RB all day everyday, please.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/15802556/63a511c94205c10c28c9333d
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 18, 2023, 08:49:46 AM
Georgia football recruiting: Uncommitted five-star recruits trending to UGA (dawnofthedawg.com) (https://dawnofthedawg.com/2023/06/14/georgia-football-recruiting-trending/?fbclid=IwAR0YYemjQC-_MGhyjMOT3j1xAUOmthMgWNsXIh1G5ZUt-YKsaQMvz6Keo-0)

I guess "they" post such predictions based on, well, inference or something, in the off season for obvious reasons.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on June 18, 2023, 10:40:50 AM
Michigan loses 4* LB Aaron Chiles to....Florida in a shocker.

Can't help but think their stupid decision to go on a run of taking a bunch of lowly rated LBs that they 10000% could've taken at any point in time and waited on til NSD to take just backfired on them. Michigan already has 4 LB commits and were going after Jeremiah Beasley and Aaron Chiles hard to take that # to 6. Apparently that might've become a tiny bit of an issue with Chiles. Michigan also honestly had zero need to take 6 freaking LBs- this isn't counting EDGE/Rush LBs- that's 6 true LB's for TWO starting spots. Four would've been MORE than sufficient.

They could've taken Cole Sullivan, Jaden Smith, and Zach Ludwing literally whenever....there was zero reason to push for those commitments or accept those commitments until after you had higher ranked players and better prospects like Chiles in the bag. Looks like Michigan counting their chickens before they hatched there- and are losing an excellent LB prospect to a team that blows and will blow for the foreseeable future. That sucks.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 18, 2023, 11:10:46 AM
Nebraska gained its tenth commitment in the 2024 recruiting class with hybrid defender Braylen Prude, a soon-to-be senior at Shadow Creek High in Pearland, Texas.

Prude stood out to secondary coach Evan Cooper at the satellite camp in Belton, Texas, earlier this month and received an offer from Nebraska. He came to Lincoln for an official visit over the weekend and committed on Sunday. His only other offers thus far are from Eastern Illinois and Lane College. He previously played at Fort Bend Hightower in Missouri City, Texas.

Prude plays linebacker and safety at Shadow Creek. His size (6-foot-5, 190 pounds) coupled with his speed (4.47 in the 40) provide an exciting blueprint for development. Prude also shows a nose for the ball and ability to shake blocks on the perimeter.

He’s the son of former LSU cornerback Ronnie Prude. The older Prude played a handful of seasons in the NFL after going undrafted and tallied 114 tackles and three interceptions in 52 games.

Nebraska is now up to 10 commitments in mid-June. Prude’s decision makes him the fifth member of the class from Texas behind Gibson Pyle, Ian Flynt, Roger Gradney and Mario Buford. He’s also the third commitment since June started, along with Buford and kicker/punter Kamdyn Koch.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 18, 2023, 12:28:56 PM
Nebraska is up to 11 commitments for 2024 with a pair of Father’s Day pledges.

Not long after Prude’s commitment, Jake Peters joined the fun. Peters is a 6-3, 265-pound prospect out of Cedar Falls (Iowa). He is rated 3-stars, the No. 15 Iowa recruit and No. 137 interior offensive lineman on 247Sports.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 18, 2023, 06:32:34 PM
Callen Barta has committed to Nebraska.

The 2024 defensive back from Topeka (Kan.) Seaman made it official on Sunday following his official visit with the Huskers over the weekend. Barta, a 6-foot-2, 180-pounder, is the first member of Nebraska’s 2024 class from Kansas.

Barta impressed Husker coaches at a camp last weekend, but he left without an offer. Nebraska wanted to get him back on campus this weekend for an official visit, and both parties quickly set a date.

An offer was extended the second time around, and Barta didn’t waste much time thinking about it as he committed on the spot.

Barta will bring length and speed to the Huskers' defensive backfield. At 6-2, Barta was officially clocked at 4.43 seconds at the Iowa State camp he attended earlier this month.

Barta is a two-way starter for Seaman High School as he’s also a receiver. In eight games last season, he racked up 26 tackles and two interceptions, according to MaxPreps. As a slot receiver, he caught 41 passes for 406 yards and three touchdowns. As a sophomore in 2021, Barta recorded 42 tackles and picked off five passes in 10 games.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 22, 2023, 10:14:21 PM
Nebraska football added more in-state flavor to its 2024 recruiting class, securing a commitment from Omaha North corner Donovan Jones.

The 6-foot-1, 185-pound Jones earned an offer over the weekend after an impressive camp performance in Lincoln. In addition to the offer from Nebraska, Wyoming also offered the Omaha North standout.

Jones ran in the 4.5s during his Friday workout in Lincoln last week and picked up an offer from Wyoming during one-on-one drills, and impressed the Nebraska coaches, and they said they would be in contact.


Jones becomes the third in-state commitment for the Huskers in the 2024 recruiting class. He said he's eager to get to work in Lincoln.

"I’m going to bring everything — I’m going to bring all I’ve got," he said.

Last season, Jones had 46 tackles, seven passes defended, two interceptions and three tackles for loss in 10 games. Jones is a three-star athlete according to 247Sports, holding an overall rating of 86.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 24, 2023, 11:38:52 AM
On Friday, the Huskers landed two more top targets with in-state recruits Isaiah McMorris and Dae'vonn Hall out of Bellevue (Neb.) West joining the fold. They are commits 16 and 17 in a class (the eighth in the last week) that shoots up five spots to No. 17 in the 247Sports Composite Team Recruiting Rankings. McMorris and Hall join their quarterback Daniel Kaelin who is one of the jewels of this group.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 26, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
There has been a noticeable push by the Nebraska staff to develop a better presence in Texas. Matt Rhule and his staff have spent a lot of time recruiting the state, and they can add another commitment to the 2024 class from Texas. Lancaster (Texas) running back Kewan Lacy committed to the Nebraska staff ahead of leaving Lincoln from his official visit.

Lacy becomes the sixth player from Texas to commit to Nebraska. The Nebraska staff was everywhere during the evaluation periods this year, which is paying off.

“I love it, I just love it! Texas kids go everywhere and now there are a bunch headed to Nebraska. We are just going to take over.”

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 10:04:09 AM
Why does 2024 seem like it's years away?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
Some changes are reportedly coming to the NCAA’s National Letter of Intent program. The updates have to do with players requesting releases from their NLIs, The Athletic’s Nicole Auerbach reported, and would take effect starting with the 2024-25 school year.

According to the new policies, there will no longer be a penalty if a signee requests a release from their NLI following a coaching change, Auerbach reported. Additionally, there won’t be a penalty if an athlete leaves after one academic semester or quarter.

That’s a change from the current policy, which states athletes would lose a season of competition if they got a release if the school doesn’t grant a full release. Additionally, those athletes would have to wait one full academic year — also known as a year in residence — to participate at their new school if they don’t attend the school with which they signed for one full year.

There’s also a potential change involving the transfer portal. Four-year transfers would be able to sign an NLI, according to Auerbach. While they wouldn’t have to, it would essentially mean school shouldn’t be able to reach out to the player once they sign as it would create a recruiting ban.

Under current rules, athletes don’t sign NLIs after transferring. Instead, they sign financial aid guarantees, which mean they still get their financial aid through graduation.

The changes come from the Collegiate Commissioners Association, which started in 1964 and oversees the National Letter of Intent program.

CCA announces NLI changes
Later Tuesday morning, the CCA announced the changes to the NLI program.

“The substantive changes include two exceptions to the NLI penalty for the 2023-24 NLI signing year (prospective student-athletes signing 2024-25 NLIs),” the announcement said. “The NLI penalty would no longer apply if the NLI signee requests a release due to a head coaching change. Additionally, if the NLI signee departs the signing institution after attendance for one academic semester or quarter, the student-athlete will not be subject to the NLI penalty once requesting a release.

“The CCA will also expand the NLI program to provide four-year transfers the opportunity to sign an NLI. Four-year transfers can sign an NLI provided they have entered the NCAA transfer portal which ensures student-athletes do not receive or sign an NLI before transfer portal entry. The transfer NLI is targeted for implementation for the 2023-24 NLI signing year.”

More on the National Letter of Intent
The National Letter of Intent is a two-way binding agreement between the athlete and the school. Per current rules, athletes agree to attend a school for a full academic year and the school agrees to provide financial aid for that academic year — which is two semesters or three quarters.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 04:36:46 PM
The son of Nebraska I-Back Ken Clark, Quinn Clark, will follow in his dad’s footsteps to Lincoln to become a Husker. The 6-foot-5 and 195-pound Clark is the No. 1 player in Montana in 2024. Clark, from Bozeman (Mont.) Gallatin picked up an offer from Nebraska following his summer camp performance on June 12th.

“I think that family is an important factor with football,” Clark said. “The fact that coach Rhule has come in and already built such a strong family environment is important to me.”


Like many of the athletes that Nebraska is recruiting, Clark is a standout at track. He was the divisional champ in the high jump with a jump of 6’4″. He also placed third in the long jump with a leap of 21’5″.

Clark is likely being looked at to play the X wide receiver position. He joins Dae’Vonn Hall and Isaiah McMorris from Bellevue (Neb.) West, who are the other two wide receivers in the class. Keelan Smith from Liberty (Mo.) North could also end up as a wide receiver in the class.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 28, 2023, 02:02:49 PM
There is a collective sigh of relief coming from Husker Nation. Matt Rhule, his staff, and even the 2024 recruiting class pitched in to keep Ainsworth (Neb.) tight end home. Carter Nelson, the No. 1 player in Nebraska, took official visits to Georgia, Notre Dame, Penn State, and Nebraska before adding his name to the 2024 Nebraska recruiting class.

Nelson is a Husker. The No. 57 player in the nation and the No. 3 tight end in the 2024 class is staying home. The 6-foot-4 and 215-pound Nelson is considered by some to be a generational talent from Nebraska because of his overall athleticism.

If you asked Nelson, he would tell you that he likes the idea of playing a flex-style tight end and getting some reps as a wide receiver. In some situations, Nebraska could put that 7’0″ high jump explosiveness to good use in the red zone.

Besides being a talented jumper, Nelson is also very good at pole vault, and when you add the fact that Nelson is 215 pounds, it’s remarkable. In 2023, Nelson set a PR during the outdoor season of 13’0″ in the pole vault and bettered that with a 14’1″ mark in the indoor season.


Nelson joins a stacked tight end room. Arik Gilbert, who transferred from Georgia to Nebraska, was the No. 1 tight end in the nation in 2020 when he signed with LSU. From the 2021 class, Nebraska also has Thomas Fidone, who was the No. 2 tight end in the country.

As a junior, Nelson threw for 663 yards and 15 touchdowns. He also had 525 yards receiving for another 11 scores and added 761 yards rushing and 14 touchdowns. On defense, he had 41 tackles and six interceptions.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2023, 02:53:58 PM
Carlon Jones from Bay City, TX committed to Nebraska on Thursday afternoon!

Jones is 6’2” - 270 pounds, a three star commit, and had offers from a few other schools in Texas including Texas Tech. Oklahoma State apparently offered as well. He is considered a good athlete for his size and he competes in both basketball and track at his high school.

Nebraska has been on a tear as they have added 16 commitments within the past month. Most are a result of the camps they have been running as they get to evaluate these players in person.

Depending on where you look the Nebraska recruiting class is anywhere from 13th in the country to 18th.

He’s the 77th ranked DL in the country and the 128th ranked player in the state of Texas according to 24/7 sports.
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class of 2024 commitment has received his fourth recruitment star. Carlon Jones is a defensive lineman out of Bay City High School in Bay City, Texas.

Jones made his commitment on June 29. He made his official visit to Lincoln on June 2. Jones also made official visits to Georgia Tech, Oklahoma State, TCU, California, and UTSA.

He was the 2022 Texas District 12-4A D-1 Co-Defensive Player of the Year. Last season he recorded 102 tackles and 13 sacks.

Jones also participates in basketball and track and field. The Texan recently posted a shot put throw of 45-5 in March of 2023. The fourth star comes national recruiting service On3.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 01, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
The Division I Council on Friday approved a proposal from the Football Oversight Committee to increase the number of allowed official visitors from 56 to 70. The increase comes on a trial basis, for now, for a 1-year period beginning April 1, 2023.

The change comes hand-in-hand with the Council removing the limit on official visits that recruits can take. Players are still limited to one visit per school, unless that school undergoes a head coaching change.

Additionally, the Council extended the waiver removing the initial counter limit for Division I football programs, which now lasts through the 2024-25 athletic year, according to Sports Illustrated. Programs are permitted to sign as many players as they want, provided they remain at or under the 85-man scholarship limit (or 63 for FCS schools). The change was initially made last May for a 2-year period. This extension continues the experiment for another season.


The 25-man initial counter limit came about in the early part of the previous decade in an attempt to curb the practice of oversigning. Ole Miss infamously signed 37 recruits in 2009, but Houston Nutt's Rebels weren't the only school to sign more players than they had room for.

A decade-plus later, though, other rule changes rendered the 25-man rule obsolete. The 1-time waiver exception and the creation of the transfer portal left many schools with more scholarship openings than they could legally fill. What began as a player-fairness measure evolved into a player-safety issue.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 01, 2023, 07:50:02 PM
In a recruitment that kept many guessing until the end, Jacory Barney announced his commitment on Saturday night to the Huskers.

The three-star wide receiver out of Miami Palmetto High School was down to a final three, with Nebraska, Miami and Texas A&M in the running. The hometown Hurricanes, which had the last official visit before the decision, were considered a favorite by some prognosticators heading into the weekend, but Nebraska was always seen by a strong option by Barney.

‌Husker wide receivers coach Garret McGuire certainly put in some good work on NU's behalf, with Barney also speaking highly after his early June visit to Lincoln of the face time he had with Matt Rhule, Philip Simpson, Evan Cooper and others on staff.


“It was nothing that I expected. Overall, I love it here. I was thinking, you know, it was just gonna be cornfields, but it’s nothing like that," Barney said then. "All weekend when I’ve been going around town, you see all of this football stuff, all of these fans, and they keep coming up to me, they’ve been showing a lot of love."

Nebraska has strong ties to the Miami area, both with staff and players. Simpson and Evan Cooper are especially linked there, and recent Husker additions like Corey Collier, Dwight Bootle II and commit Willis McGahee IV offer familiar faces to Barney.


And, yeah, NU QB commit Daniel Kaelin was also around on Barney's visit to make a pitch verbally and literally, throwing passes to him.

“I like his character, I like that guy. I didn’t know about him that much, but he reached out to me after he had committed and he told me he’d love to play with me, throw touchdowns to me one day and I could definitely see that happening,” Barney said.

He had also made a June official visit to Texas A&M before making the trip to Miami.

Andrew Ivins, director of scouting for 247Sports who knows that region's prospects as well as any, wrote of Barney, "Understands how to create separation while getting vertical with his speed and has a surprisingly high success rate in contested catch situations for someone with his build. Slippery in the open field and more than capable of making defenders miss in close quarters. Should be viewed as a potential difference maker at the Power Five level. Likely to add plenty of value on special teams with his skillset and has most of the tools that defensive back coaches covet."

Barney's commitment gives Nebraska 23 pledges for the 2024 recruiting class ranked in the top 15 nationally by the 247Sports composite as July begins.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on July 01, 2023, 08:03:23 PM
As much as you are hogging this thread the Bugeaters better be good or Bud Light for you
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 01, 2023, 08:52:55 PM
give it a couple 3 seasons
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on July 02, 2023, 10:49:32 AM
Hell by then they'll all portal out to greener pastures like Rutgers or UT for instance :D
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2023, 11:16:08 AM
like Joe Burrow?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on July 02, 2023, 11:20:24 AM
That cat was pretty good.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 02, 2023, 11:37:19 AM
4-star Texas OT commits to Georgia over Alabama, Michigan (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/article/4-star-texas-ot-commits-to-georgia-over-alabama-michigan-212287954/)

I dunno why he wouldn't stay in the state.  I guess today state lines are almost gone.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2023, 11:47:36 AM
he wants to win a title
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 02, 2023, 11:57:14 AM
I've always said aside from legacy type players, the interest is in getting to the League ASAP and with a high draft number.  NIL of course is also an influence now, but I think for nearly all, it's relatively modest.  Winning a title is grand, it's why we play, but $$$$$$$.

It makes the Moon revolve around the Earth.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2023, 07:45:46 PM
winning a title gets you to the league quicker
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 02, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/BREAKING-5-star-D-tackle-Justin-Scott-to-Ohio-State-football-212369247/

Big one there. Was thought to be a ND v Miami battle.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on July 02, 2023, 09:29:11 PM
God Day is in such a weird spot.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 03, 2023, 10:54:14 AM
God Day is in such a weird spot.
what do you mean by that? That he keeps getting his dickhole kicked in by Jeem but keeps recruiting like gangbusters? 

Day is going to have insane pressure to beat Jeem in Ann Arbor this year. Drop 3 in a row to Michigan and the Bucknuts will, well go nuts.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on July 03, 2023, 11:01:19 AM
I've always said aside from legacy type players, the interest is in getting to the League ASAP and with a high draft number.  NIL of course is also an influence now, but I think for nearly all, it's relatively modest.  Winning a title is grand, it's why we play, but $$$$$$$.

It makes the Moon revolve around the Earth.

For most top athletes, it's probably:

1) Get to the NFL, so pick a school that maximizes your chances at that
2) Win a title, so pick a school that gives you a shot at that
3) Maximize NIL money

2 and 3 are probably reversed for some kids, but I think #1 is always #1
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 03, 2023, 11:44:29 AM
what do you mean by that? That he keeps getting his dickhole kicked in by Jeem but keeps recruiting like gangbusters?

Day is going to have insane pressure to beat Jeem in Ann Arbor this year. Drop 3 in a row to Michigan and the Bucknuts will, well go nuts.
Meh.  Fans will go bananas of course. But the smart people know better.
Day has a better winning % against UM than Harbaugh does against OSU.

His boss( Day’s) also gives him credit - appropriately for his 2 wins against UM as offensive coordinator in 18 and 19- where they scored north of 50 both times.  And- for 20 when Harbaugh pussed out of the game.

You don’t get rid of a guy who is 45-6, with CFP appearances in 3 of 4 years, multiple Big Ten titles, absolutely loved by the players and families, and has the best record of ALL current active coaches against Top 25 teams.  

https://fbschedules.com/which-current-power-5-head-coaches-are-the-best-and-worst-vs-the-top-25/
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on July 03, 2023, 10:08:31 PM
OSU is a bit of a wildcard because of the new QB, but kind of feels like these are the best UM/OSU squads since...2006?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on July 04, 2023, 12:37:30 AM
what do you mean by that? That he keeps getting his dickhole kicked in by Jeem but keeps recruiting like gangbusters?

Day is going to have insane pressure to beat Jeem in Ann Arbor this year. Drop 3 in a row to Michigan and the Bucknuts will, well go nuts.
Basically what you said. He can recruit all the five stars in the world and send all the NFL guys and go 11-1 into eternity, and unless he wins a natty or starts beating Michigan 70 percent of the time, he'll just be roasted forever more. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 07, 2023, 10:51:08 AM
UW doing pretty well on the trail lately.

Stole a 4* OL from Minnie.

Emerson Mandell, Irondale, Offensive Line (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/player/emerson-mandell-46136733/)

Picked up a 4* CB out of PA.

Omillio Agard, St. Joseph's Prep School, Cornerback (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/player/omillio-agard-46111580/)

Should have a couple/three more announcements in the coming days too.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 07, 2023, 02:09:15 PM
4* RB from Illinois.

Darrion Dupree, Mount Carmel, Running Back (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Darrion-Dupree-46117231/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2023, 09:42:03 AM
What's the Ceiling of the 2024 Michigan Football Recruiting Class? (gbmwolverine.com) (https://gbmwolverine.com/2023/07/09/michigan-recruiting-what-is-the-realistic-ceiling-of-the-2024-class/?fbclid=IwAR3TUCjVhKqkOqnYq1PWJhV1v1aWwrzTxE7YMYuGqhBYLoVWxAcRuaogw-Y)

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2023, 09:45:13 AM
For most top athletes, it's probably:

1) Get to the NFL, so pick a school that maximizes your chances at that
2) Win a title, so pick a school that gives you a shot at that
3) Maximize NIL money

2 and 3 are probably reversed for some kids, but I think #1 is always #1
It should be for all of them, but probably there are exceptions, maybe kids who come from poor backgrounds and are attracted to some money now.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 12, 2023, 08:31:48 AM
And another.

Anelu Lafaele, Farrington, Edge (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Anelu-Lafaele-46133351/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on July 12, 2023, 11:46:53 AM
Scout.com's recruiting rankings just recently started included the LA schools into the Big Ten:

(https://i.imgur.com/8sRYrbI.png)
...

(https://i.imgur.com/sJX8bG1.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 12, 2023, 11:50:29 AM
pretty good spot for Rhule considering
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 12, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Did I read that right?  OSU has four 5 stars and no one else has any?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 12, 2023, 01:56:21 PM
The number in the AVG column is all I look at.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 12, 2023, 02:14:07 PM
Badgers flip NU commit. He was high on the board so I'm happy.

DT Dillan Johnson flips to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/dillan-johnson-wisconsin-football-recruiting-212724761/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 12, 2023, 02:16:11 PM
Did I read that right?  OSU has four 5 stars and no one else has any?
been that way for decades
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 14, 2023, 02:28:08 PM
And another one!!

Dilin Jones, Our Lady Good Counsel HS, Running Back (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Dilin-Jones-46131385/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 14, 2023, 02:30:52 PM
Wisconsin is gonna have another RB room like this one now.

(https://i.imgur.com/lkjJz6t.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 14, 2023, 02:50:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nfhwzTQ.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2023, 11:22:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/h8iGufK.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 15, 2023, 11:26:39 AM
Interesting seeing Stanford at #9 ...  I occasionally pull up youtube videos with folks talking endlessly about recruiting and watch for a few ...  this seems to be a full time job for quite a few of them.  Then there of course is the speculation about where Player X will end up based on ... subjective criteria mostly.  I heard last night that the "25" limit is gone now, if there ever was one really.

I guess 85 remains.

Question, let's say some elite QB (Raiola) goes to UGA and gets a million dollar NIL deal.  Does he need a scholarship?  Might he refuse one so someone else could be signed?  Does that happen?  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2023, 11:59:13 AM
Interesting seeing Stanford at #9 ...  I occasionally pull up youtube videos with folks talking endlessly about recruiting and watch for a few ...  this seems to be a full time job for quite a few of them.  Then there of course is the speculation about where Player X will end up based on ... subjective criteria mostly.  I heard last night that the "25" limit is gone now, if there ever was one really.

I guess 85 remains.

Question, let's say some elite QB (Raiola) goes to UGA and gets a million dollar NIL deal.  Does he need a scholarship?  Might he refuse one so someone else could be signed?  Does that happen? 
Yes, it does. And with him, well, his family is loaded.

Stanford really cleaned house. 28 is a huge class.

Rivals only counts your top rated 20 kids, unlike 247, which counts them all.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 15, 2023, 01:41:59 PM
This could open some more boxes by Pandora....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 17, 2023, 08:57:35 AM
The top-rated recruit in the state of Hawaii is headed to the Heartland.

Preston Taumua, the Top247 offensive lineman from Waipahu, announced his commitment to Nebraska late Sunday night, choosing the Cornhuskers over finalists Arizona, Auburn and Oregon.

In what could be considered a come-from-behind effort at the finish line, coach Matt Rhule, offensive line coach Donovan Raiola and the staff made a tremendous impression during Taumua’s official visit last month, sharing their vision for what the program could accomplish with the talented blocker leading the charge in the trenches.


Taumua, the No. 207 overall prospect and No. 11 rated interior offensive lineman in the 2024 class, per the 247Sports rankings, also took official visits to Arizona, Auburn and Oregon during a whirlwind month of June. He has signed up to play in the 2024 Polynesian Bowl all-star game after enrolling early in Lincoln.

The impressive 6-foot-4, 315-pound lineman has been among the most highly coveted prospects out West in the 2024 cycle and gives the Huskers a huge building block up front
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 17, 2023, 09:10:29 AM
Can't be any good. 

No Wisconsin offer. ;)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 17, 2023, 09:16:37 AM
Luke doesn't have "the force" in the islands
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 17, 2023, 09:48:49 AM
Luke doesn't have "the force" in the islands
He's got 4 on his team, including this guy:


Anelu Lafaele, Farrington, Edge (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/player/anelu-lafaele-46133351/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 18, 2023, 07:40:23 PM
Meh.  Fans will go bananas of course. But the smart people know better.
Day has a better winning % against UM than Harbaugh does against OSU.

His boss( Day’s) also gives him credit - appropriately for his 2 wins against UM as offensive coordinator in 18 and 19- where they scored north of 50 both times.  And- for 20 when Harbaugh pussed out of the game.

You don’t get rid of a guy who is 45-6, with CFP appearances in 3 of 4 years, multiple Big Ten titles, absolutely loved by the players and families, and has the best record of ALL current active coaches against Top 25 teams. 

https://fbschedules.com/which-current-power-5-head-coaches-are-the-best-and-worst-vs-the-top-25/
I agree with you. Would be insane if Day got fired if he goes 10-2 or 11-1 with an L to Michigan. Don't think that would ever happen in a million years...but you can bet his seat would be flaming hot in '24 and if he lost to Michigan in '24 he'd be in serious jeopardy of being toast.

Day does have a better % against UM than Harbaugh does against OSU....but Michigan isn't Ohio State. The expectations and fan pressure at Michigan just aren't the same. Ohio State is a whole animal.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 24, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
UGA got a commit from some LB out of Texas supposed to be good ...


Georgia adds top OLB Justin Williams to 2024 recruiting class - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38065132/georgia-adds-top-olb-justin-williams-2024-recruiting-class)


Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 25, 2023, 09:46:18 PM
UGA got a commit from some LB out of Texas supposed to be good ...


Georgia adds top OLB Justin Williams to 2024 recruiting class - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38065132/georgia-adds-top-olb-justin-williams-2024-recruiting-class)
UGA gets a 5* recruit. Color me shocked! No way! Lol. 

It's getting to the point where UGA is the new Bama. They basically land whoever the F they want. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 28, 2023, 04:13:52 PM
In a surprise move, one four-star offensive lineman has decommitted from USC ahead of the 2023 high school football season.

Taking to Twitter, 2024 offensive tackle Manasse Itete from Central Catholic High School announced that he has decided to decommit. He said that it was a difficult decision but that he intends to announce his new commitment this weekend.

"After much consideration with my family, I have decided to DECOMMIT from USC. I sincerely appreciate your understanding and want you to know that this was a difficult choice or decision to make. Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience and disappointment. That being said, I'll announce my commitment tomorrow Saturday," Itete wrote.

247Sports rates Itete as the No. 331 overall prospect in the Class of 2024. He is the No. 26 offensive tackle in the country and the No. 28 prospect from the state of California.

As of writing, 247Sports has Florida State as his most likely destination.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 30, 2023, 07:24:50 PM
Ohio State gets a big-time commitment from in-state 4* CB Aaron Scott. He's the #52 player overall and #5 CB in the 247Composite- and he's not done rising in the rankings imo. Kid will be borderline 5* or even a 5* and in the top 35 somewhere in the final composite rankings imo.

Sucks was hoping Michigan could pull off the upset but he's staying home. Still think you have to recruit him to the end though if you're Jeem and company bc if they pull off 3-wins in a row vs Day this November then Day will be under immense pressure to make sweeping staff changes to the defense and if the DC or DB coaches get axed then you have an in to maybe go for the flipski.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 30, 2023, 07:30:07 PM
Ohio State gets a big-time commitment from in-state 4* CB Aaron Scott. He's the #52 player overall and #5 CB in the 247Composite- and he's not done rising in the rankings imo. Kid will be borderline 5* or even a 5* and in the top 35 somewhere in the final composite rankings imo.

Sucks was hoping Michigan could pull off the upset but he's staying home. Still think you have to recruit him to the end though if you're Jeem and company bc if they pull off 3-wins in a row vs Day this November then Day will be under immense pressure to make sweeping staff changes to the defense and if the DC or DB coaches get axed then you have an in to maybe go for the flipski.
That kid’s commitment broke the internet.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 30, 2023, 07:34:18 PM
That kid’s commitment broke the internet. 
didn't see it...what happened? 

I think he's a big-time pick up for Ohio State. This is the type of high ability potential 1st rd CB they used to have seemingly every year under Urbs. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 30, 2023, 07:37:45 PM
didn't see it...what happened?

I think he's a big-time pick up for Ohio State. This is the type of high ability potential 1st rd CB they used to have seemingly every year under Urbs.
I guess he had three backpacks with hats on top of them. One for Oregon, one for Ohio State, and one for Michigan, which was in the middle.

He got up and tossed the Oregon stuff off the table. Then he grabbed the Ohio State stuff and at first looked like he was gonna put the hat on but then he said it down and tossed the Ohio State stuff off the table and he picked up the Michigan backpack, unzipped it and pulled up and Ohio State jersey and put it on.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 30, 2023, 07:39:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Garrick_Hodge/status/1685783747365425152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1685783747365425152%7Ctwgr%5E6c15ed802196f48cb9fe7e935aaa082ab1764d3c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elevenwarriors.com%2Fohio-state-football-recruiting%2F2023%2F07%2F139827%2Fbuckeye-nation-reacts-to-four-star-2024-cornerback-aaron-scott-jr-choosing-ohio-state-over-michigan
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 30, 2023, 07:49:03 PM
welp, Michigan made it interesting. this is the type of battle that OSU will win 99.99% of the time- Ohio kid from the suburbs of Columbus always a stupid hard pull. Toledo and Cinci areas = much easier time getting kids to spurn Ohio State and head to Ann Arbor.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on July 30, 2023, 07:52:29 PM
They got quite a haul this year for DBs.  

Scott and West, Calvin Simpson Hunt, and Miles Lockhart.  Plus Jermaine Matthew’s last year ( that kid reminds me of Lattimore).  A couple excellent safeties as well. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on July 30, 2023, 09:03:07 PM
I've identified the issue with Michigan recruiting

https://twitter.com/ElijahDotson06/status/1685687797397532672?t=6JBaxBG6dku_6Ff0rJ-D5w&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 30, 2023, 09:14:16 PM
I've identified the issue with Michigan recruiting

https://twitter.com/ElijahDotson06/status/1685687797397532672?t=6JBaxBG6dku_6Ff0rJ-D5w&s=19
JFC that's sad. Yeesh.

Looks like Jeem spent all his 'crootin' food budget on those secret illegal cheeseburgers and is afraid of the NCAA coming down on him now so he's cutback....looks like his wife opened a bunch of frozen foods from Walmart and put it in the microwave....embarassing.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 30, 2023, 09:46:34 PM
Fairfax (Va.) linebacker Kris Jones committed to Georgia over Florida and Michigan State on Sunday night.

Seeing a lot of out of GA commits in this class, which is good, beat out Michigan State and some other school for this fellow.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 02, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
OSU loses out on 5* EDGE Dylan Stewart (6'5, 235) - a top 10 player in the nation from the DMV....to South Carolina.

Same thing happened to Michigan in last years class with top 10 player in the nation from the DMV when 5* ATH Nyckoles Harbor (6'5, 225) committed to South Carolina over Michigan in a bit of a shocker.

How in the actual f@!k South Carolina is taking kids that highly rated from the DMV (B1G territory) away from the helmet schools of the B1G is something I'll never understand, but hey, good luck struggling to get to 7-5/8-4 every year fellas. To each their own.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:02 PM
Michigan has 20 commits right now that are rated as 4*'s in the 247Composite. No more 5*'s in the class as QB Jadyn Davis fell in some of the sites' rankings so his composite went down from the #28 player in the nation to #60- but hey I'll take 20 kids in a class being 4*'s- especially with the development that Jeem's OL, DL, and DB staff have shown the past few years and with Ben Herbert molding them into monsters in the S&C room.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 06, 2023, 02:21:40 PM
Michigan's brutal summer recruiting stretch continues....as they finish runner up to 4* WR Gatlin Bair (6'2, 195) out of Idaho. Bair has just committed to the hometown team Boise State- and Michigan finishes 2nd place.

Bair is the #40 player overall in the nation and #10 WR in the 247Composite..and is without question the nations fastest football recruit. Has verified times in the 100 this spring as low as 10.18. 

Guess he wanted to play in the PAC. Lol.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 06, 2023, 02:24:52 PM
There's always the Portal,course jeem will have to start chucking it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 06, 2023, 03:01:48 PM
There's always the Portal,course jeem will have to start chucking it
that's really what it comes down to....Jeem ain't gonna land any elite WRs til he actually starts proving he can develop a passing game and develop WRs.

right now there is 0 reason to go to Michigan if you play WR if you are an elite one. none. last elite WR Jeem got he didn't develop him- instead of turning DPJ into a high 1st round pick- he turned him into a 6th round developmental NFL draft pick. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 07, 2023, 08:56:25 AM
2024 RB Nate Frazier Commits to Georgia Football - Sports Illustrated Georgia Bulldogs News, Analysis and More (https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/2024-rb-nate-frazier-commits-to-georgia-football)

Another one from California ...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 07, 2023, 11:04:00 AM
5* Safety KJ Bolden (6-1, 185) of Georgia commits to Florida State. Bolden is the #7 rated player in the nation and #1 safety in the 247Composite. Bit of a shocker as most thought he was going to Georgia or Ohio State. His uncle coaches at Ohio State and he goes to Buford HS- a powerhouse HS program just an hour or so away from UGA.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 07, 2023, 02:03:34 PM
didn't Riola transfer to Buford?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 07, 2023, 02:06:05 PM
didn't Riola transfer to Buford?
Yes.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 07, 2023, 04:18:57 PM
didn't Riola transfer to Buford?
yup. team was loaded before they added him. now they just redunkulous. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 11, 2023, 05:21:13 PM
UW should be done with recruiting now. I can't wait to see what they can do with a full cycle for 2025.

(https://i.imgur.com/ocT97ps.png)

I don't think UW has ever had 10 4* players in one class.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 16, 2023, 11:12:49 AM
Jeem just lost a commit in 4* EDGE Elias Rudolph who flipped from Michigan to Miami. Word is he's about to lose a pair of 4* DL/EDGE twin brother commits Jacob and Jerod Smith....to Kentucky. Lmao.

Dude is pre-season #2 and favorite to be on verge of 3 straight B1G titles and playoff trips and he's losing every recruit he was suppose to land down the summer stretch and losing commits to freaking god awful programs like Miami and Kentucky. Holy shit.

SO on brand. Jeem gonna Jeem.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 16, 2023, 01:49:48 PM
some whispers that QB commit Jadyn Davis may be taking a visit to Clemson. Just whispers. We'll see if it happens. At this point with all the shitshow fkery that's been going on in 'crootin with Michigan's class I am half expecting it.

Honestly if Davis visits around and winds up flipping and Michigan landed Bryce Underwood in '25 I literally would not even care. At all. Bryce Underwood is the end all be all for QB recruits in this class or the next. He's who they have to get or else. Ideally you'd love to have both. Would be a disaster to get neither though. LSU seems like the only real competition at this point for Underwood.

Starting to think Jeem is being negative recruited/shit talked on the trail HARD core right now and with the NCAA stuff looming over his head and an ironclad contract extension not finished 'crootin' might get brutal down the stretch.

Michigan should be CRUSHING it on the trail right now, and they are backsliding. Not a good sign of things to come.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
Michigan has 27 commits for 2024. How is that possible?

Are there really 27 scholarship seniors on that team?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 16, 2023, 05:34:19 PM
throw some young guys into the portal

B1g Tenners used to bash the SEC for this practice
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 05:57:28 PM
I suppose you could also take away a 'ship and use NIL to cover it.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 16, 2023, 07:28:57 PM
yup, being committed doesn't mean they're taking a ship
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 16, 2023, 07:50:06 PM
Dude is pre-season #2 and favorite to be on verge of 3 straight B1G titles and playoff trips and he's losing every recruit he was suppose to land down the summer stretch and losing commits to freaking god awful programs like Miami and Kentucky. Holy shit.
Perhaps he should have taken the 4 games and kept his mouth shut. The recruits prolly heard him actually converse. Maybe Matt Weiss leaving had something to do with it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 17, 2023, 11:22:39 AM
Florida State paying recruits in high school "NIL" money in order to buy them to get them to come to their school? Passes the smell test imo. Why the hell they recruiting that good taking in-state 5*'s from Georgia? Makes no sense. Last time Florida State was even any kind of good these kids were 6 and 7 years old. Most of their lives Florida State has well, sucked ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZYMftOW8o&t=638s
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 17, 2023, 11:33:46 AM
Florida State paying recruits in high school "NIL" money in order to buy them to get them to come to their school? Passes the smell test imo. Why the hell they recruiting that good taking in-state 5*'s from Georgia? Makes no sense. Last time Florida State was even any kind of good these kids were 6 and 7 years old. Most of their lives Florida State has well, sucked ass.
Given the fact you were spot on (one of the rare times ;D ) regarding Hugh Freeze that the University,SEC or NCAA didn't latch on to


(https://media.tenor.com/images/e4ae71099eeeccdaaf1495af637ac4c7/tenor.gif)     
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 19, 2023, 11:38:31 AM
yeah so Michigan got two really good RB 'croots this class. Jordan Marshall and Micah Kapaana both put on a show in their week 1 HS football openers. Have a feeling as long as Mike Hart is the RBs coach that Michigan is gonna have pretty good RBs. Marshall will have a legit shot at being the #1 ranked RB by the time it's all said and done- he's #5 right now. Kapaana's burst and speed is ridiculous and he's on track to have another monster season for national powerhouse Bishop Gorman (he ran for 1,100 yards and 14 TDs for them on 70 carries last year) - have a feeling he's going to be a big riser in the rankings as he becomes their feature back this year and gets more than 70 carries....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 22, 2023, 01:54:24 PM
really like Michigan's offensive class. QB Jadyn Davis, RB Jordan Marshall, RB Micah Kaapana, and WR Channing Goodwin all had monster season openers. All four of them look legit and pop to my untrained eye. Wouldn't be surprised to see Davis rise back up the rankings if he keeps it up puts up monster stats, wins Gatorade player of the year in NC again and another state title- he went 24-30 for 456 and 5 TD's with 0 INT's. Marshall is already top 100 player and the #5 RB, he's gonna stay there if not rise imo. Kaapana is so damn explosive- every time he touches the ball he breaks a big run and pops on screen- he's gonna rise imo. Goodwin looks legit as well-not as polished as his teammate Jordan Shipp- but looks more explosive and athletic than Shipp- but Shipp is just a stud who knows how to play WR and is so underrated. Jeem needs to flip that dude ASAP. The offensive tackles they got look prototype top 100 players at tackle as well- Andre Sprauge and Blake Frazier- both those dudes could see rises in the rankings. Their TE duo is great- TE's Brady Prieskorn (top 100 player, #7 TE) and Hogan Hansen (#239 player, #12 TE). On paper- it's a really nice class- missing top tier polished talent at WR- not saying they need all the freaks OSU has at WR in the same class- but just one high level athletic freak 'croot there would be nice.....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 22, 2023, 03:18:14 PM
Very nice class.  

 Just to keep in the spirit of the rivalry- I like OHio States better.  

https://247sports.com/Video/james-peoples-veterans-memorial-2022-junior-season-highlights-11578521/

They went and got James Peoples from Texas and Jordan Lyle from Florida. 

https://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Lyle-46116481/

https://twitter.com/calweav14/status/1692717631256527165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1692717631256527165%7Ctwgr%5E278a297d7051fd2950981538f916a466320da80a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fohio-state%2Flongformarticle%2Ffuture-buckeyes-tavien-st-clair-air-noland-sam-williams-dixon-excel-as-prep-football-in-ohio-and-elsewhere-begins-214633821%2F

Then they went a got this guy- Sam Williams-Dixon too. He went off Friday night. 

Add Air Noland- who was on tv last week and looked smooth as silk,  the 3 WRs ( Smith, Graham, McCllelan), the Armstrong brothers on the offensive line, and Whitten out of Glenville at TE. 

Did well in D too- but I don’t think they are done yet on that side.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 22, 2023, 07:09:12 PM
Very nice class. 

 Just to keep in the spirit of the rivalry- I like OHio States better. 

https://247sports.com/Video/james-peoples-veterans-memorial-2022-junior-season-highlights-11578521/

They went and got James Peoples from Texas and Jordan Lyle from Florida.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Lyle-46116481/

https://twitter.com/calweav14/status/1692717631256527165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1692717631256527165%7Ctwgr%5E278a297d7051fd2950981538f916a466320da80a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fohio-state%2Flongformarticle%2Ffuture-buckeyes-tavien-st-clair-air-noland-sam-williams-dixon-excel-as-prep-football-in-ohio-and-elsewhere-begins-214633821%2F

Then they went a got this guy- Sam Williams-Dixon too. He went off Friday night.

Add Air Noland- who was on tv last week and looked smooth as silk,  the 3 WRs ( Smith, Graham, McCllelan), the Armstrong brothers on the offensive line, and Whitten out of Glenville at TE.

Did well in D too- but I don’t think they are done yet on that side. 
they both have excellent O classes. I think QB/RB/TE/OL positions are all very close, but I'd pick Ohio State's offensive class all day because: WR. Michigan isn't even in the ballpark there at WR- not even remotely close- but to be fair I don't think anyone is in the entire country. OSU WR class in '24 is once again downright f'ng ludicrous. Brian Hartline really needs to get an NFL job ASAP.

the classes on defense, OSU has much better top end talent on paper. Michigan wanted Ohio State commits CB Aaron Scott and NT Justin Scott badly. Those guys were without question the #1 guys on Michigan's board at CB and NT and are 5* caliber- and Ohio State got them both. Michigan doesn't have a CB commit in that universe and they don't even have a NT commit let alone a 5* one. CB Bryce West was high on their board at CB as well and Ohio State got him too- but they were always getting him- Glenville kid.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 22, 2023, 07:11:59 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ohio-state-football-recruiting-five-star-dl-eddrick-houston-bumps-buckeyes-closer-to-georgias-no-1-class/


Great pick up this evening. 5 star Eddrick Houston out of Georgia- over Bama, Georgia, Clemson and USC. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 22, 2023, 07:17:08 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ohio-state-football-recruiting-five-star-dl-eddrick-houston-bumps-buckeyes-closer-to-georgias-no-1-class/


Great pick up this evening. 5 star Eddrick Houston out of Georgia- over Bama, Georgia, Clemson and USC.
rich get richer. kinda crazy that Ohio State lost out on the #1 EDGE recruit in the nation- Dylan Stewart- to freakin' SOUTH CAROLINA of all places- a DMV kid who idolized OSU EDGE legend Chase Young (who is also from the DMV) and LJ has deep 'crootin ties and HS coaching connections in DMV area- but it doesn't matter bc they just say F it on to the next and go deep into the heart of Georgia and snatch an in-state 5* EDGE 'croot away from UGA. that's some serious 'crootin. Day can definitely 'croot his ass off.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2023, 08:31:12 AM
Plenty of time to flip.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 23, 2023, 09:01:40 AM
Plenty of time to flip.
also true. no commits from the south are safe from SEC fkery until signing day and those LOIs are actually in.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 23, 2023, 09:11:16 AM
2 way street.  There are a couple of dudes that committed down south, last minute- that I think might still be potential flips to come in.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 23, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
rich get richer. kinda crazy 
Quit your bitchin' jeem let's other develop them then pounces on the portal.Pretty good considering the short stay these daze
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 23, 2023, 09:21:02 AM
Quit your bitchin' jeem let's other develop them then pounces on the portal.Pretty good considering the short stay these daze
what? I'm so lost here.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2023, 09:39:35 AM
Fickell and staff are actively trying to flip kids - including from other Big Ten schools.

That never used to happen, before Urban Meyer, but it's where we are today. Urban really took the conference as a whole to a different place when it comes to recruiting.

Fickell worked under Urban for 5 years at OSU. He knows the drill.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on August 23, 2023, 09:42:12 AM
Flipping kids is part of the game.  If the kids want the recruitment to stop, they can simply stop taking calls.  Many of them do it every year.  Some don't.  If they flip, then they weren't very committed anyway.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 23, 2023, 09:47:29 AM
Flipping kids is part of the game.  If the kids want the recruitment to stop, they can simply stop taking calls.  Many of them do it every year.  Some don't.  If they flip, then they weren't very committed anyway.
yeah, it's always been part of the game. have no problem with it. a coach isn't doing his job if he isn't trying to flip kids that can help his team win games...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2023, 10:44:10 AM
yeah, it's always been part of the game. have no problem with it. a coach isn't doing his job if he isn't trying to flip kids that can help his team win games...
There was an understanding in the B1G that coaches wouldn't go after kids committed in conference. That changed in November of 2011.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on August 23, 2023, 10:55:21 AM
What's more interesting than simply kids flipping, is a new development brought on by the advent of NIL.

In this new era, it can pay off for your school to continue pursuing a kid after he's committed somewhere else, and offer increased amounts of NIL money.  Even if you don't get the kid, you're very likely driving up the price and forcing the "committed" school to use up more of its resources than they otherwise would have, if you'd just stopped pursuing that recruit.  We're already seeing this scenario play out quite a bit, this recruiting cycle.

It's a brave new world out there.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 24, 2023, 10:54:16 AM
247Sports copying Bruce Feldman and starting their own annual "Top 50 freaks list" for HS football recruits...LINK (https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-football-recruiting-freaks-list-2024-sammy-brown-jeremiah-smith-carter-nelson-gatlin-bair-214749093/)

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 26, 2023, 09:17:25 AM
Michigan 4* RB commit Jordan Marshall goes off again....


https://twitter.com/On3Recruits/status/1695264808029782376?s=20


MSU 4* WR commit Nick Marsh (6'3, 200) went off and scored 4 TD's total rushing, receiving, and on a kick return vs Belleville last night- a team which has the #1 player in the entire nation in the 2025 class and might be the best team in the state of Michigan. He's a top 100 player easy, Sparty got a really good one. Jeem needs to be trying to flip that dude ASAP.

https://twitter.com/On3Recruits/status/1695240992742383668?s=20

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 26, 2023, 12:40:22 PM
Who's it gonna be? Offers from everyone.

5-star DL David Stone set to commit to college on Saturday (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/5-star-dl-david-stone-set-to-commit-to-college-on-saturday/ar-AA1fOt05?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=09b0d511a762426bb90132d2acb3a30b&ei=6)

David Stone, a five-star defensive lineman, is scheduled to announce his college choice on Saturday, taking one of the top prospects in the nation off the board.

The 247Sports composite ranks Stone as the No. 2 player at his position and the No. 6 overall in the 2024 recruiting class. His final choices involve Florida, Miami, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Oregon and Texas A&M.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 26, 2023, 01:13:19 PM
Who's it gonna be? Offers from everyone.

5-star DL David Stone set to commit to college on Saturday (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/5-star-dl-david-stone-set-to-commit-to-college-on-saturday/ar-AA1fOt05?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=09b0d511a762426bb90132d2acb3a30b&ei=6)

David Stone, a five-star defensive lineman, is scheduled to announce his college choice on Saturday, taking one of the top prospects in the nation off the board.

The 247Sports composite ranks Stone as the No. 2 player at his position and the No. 6 overall in the 2024 recruiting class. His final choices involve Florida, Miami, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Oregon and Texas A&M.
that kid is only about the NIL bag. A&M or Miami is my guess.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 26, 2023, 02:07:33 PM
He didn't OV aTm or Oregon.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2023, 10:42:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CTUz21z.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 27, 2023, 10:44:58 AM
I certainly hope guys making anywhere close to that kinda money are giving up their scholarships to other deserving players
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 27, 2023, 11:15:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CTUz21z.png)
fake news. Arch doesn't even have a single NIL deal yet. 

those are all phony #'s created by On3's dumbass stupid af "NIL algorithm!" - which is nothing but made up #'s they pulled out of their assholes over at On3. They are nothing but projections of what the dipshits over at On3 think each players name is worth. They are completely baseless and useless.

The real #'s are drastically different. I've talked to a sports agent who does NIL for one of the biggest agents in pro sports. The #'s being thrown out by media for recruits and college players is flat out fake news. Only a very select handful of guys were making 7 figures in NIL (think CJ Stroud, Bryce Young). 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2023, 11:18:03 AM
They say at the top that these are projections.

Is Arch gonna start this year?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 11:23:05 AM
I'm not even sure who these ON3 upstart dipsticks are. All I know is when they are linked you have to sign up - um NO. I don't do that for ESPiN content that has been around 40 plus yrs.Not going to do it for them not even around for 40 months
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2023, 11:25:21 AM
I'm not even sure who these ON3 upstart dipsticks are. All I know is when they are linked you have to sign up - um NO. I don't do that for ESPiN content that has been around 40 plus yrs.Not going to do it for them not even around for 40 months
Former 247 owner and some of his guys.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 27, 2023, 11:26:37 AM
They say at the top that these are projections.

Is Arch gonna start this year?
that is not what that tweet says. that tweet says Arch is currently projected to make $2.9 million this year. 

a) that is not true. Arch does not have a single NIL deal signed.

b) even if it somehow was, there is literally no way for anyone over at On3 to know that unless players are sharing their NIL contracts with On3. They're not.

THAT IS NOT what that On3 list is. The On3 list is not a projection of what each player will make this year. They have no fkn clue what each player would make. The list is merely a projection of what On3 THINKS said players name is worth. They literally have no way of knowing that. At all. It's made up phony bullshit. Not worth the paper it's written on. We might as well wipe our asses with that list.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2023, 11:30:22 AM
We might as well wipe our asses with that list.
I'm not gonna mess up my monitor doing that.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 11:34:32 AM
 It's made up phony bullshit. Not worth the paper it's written on. We might as well wipe our asses with that list 
Well just in case there is another run on TP can you email me that list?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 11:37:20 AM
Former 247 owner and some of his guys.
Evidently he hasn't sharpened his skills 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 27, 2023, 12:19:03 PM
anyone can project something in the future

weather guys do this with Hurricanes, for example

doesn't mean it's gonna happen

it's a guess
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 27, 2023, 12:27:13 PM
Is an NIL driven recruit likely to end up a bust in CFB, or more likely than others?

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 12:34:42 PM
they might feel the pressure and fold or not give rats ass and fold anyway - take a poll
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 27, 2023, 12:35:25 PM
I don't think so

if money is the only motivation, maybe

but, even money can have a positive motivation

if you don't work hard enough to make the two-deep, the money goes away
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 12:40:35 PM
Well they are 18/19 yrs old
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 27, 2023, 12:52:17 PM
Well, let's say the kid is poor, and really needs the money, or just wants it, fine.  He chooses X over Y for that reason, even if Y would do a better job getting him prepared.

What is his primary motivation?  Is he going to want to work hard?  Is he coachable?  Or is he maybe a slacker who does the minimum to get by with a coaching staff afraid to cross him?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 27, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
Coach Rhule addressed this

says he wants kids that want to work hard, take coaching to be developed for the NFL

not so much the kid that just wants some quick NIL $$$

I think Coach knows that fi he puts players in the NFL he will get better recruits

but, then even 4 and 5 star recruits better be prepared to work hard, take coaching to be developed for the NFL

even extremely talented kids need to work to get to the NFL
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2023, 04:03:18 PM
FF I think that's where a lot of CFB coaches are or should be
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 28, 2023, 10:58:21 AM
that is pretty much what Michigan is doing with NIL as far as I can tell. they are telling recruits look if you come here and become a star player you're going to make a bunch of NIL money- just like Blake Corum and JJ McCarthy are making right now. they aren't promising anything- and they can't. just saying look- proof is in the pudding. 

there are schools that have had collectives set up almost like an annual salary for a position group- like OL at this school get X per year- but those are collectives- the actual schools aren't involved in that at all- and players get that for being on scholarship at that position group- it's not a situation where recruit X is getting paid just to come to that school- every scholarship player in that positional group gets the same thing.

the amount of schools actually doing pay for play NIL deals for HS recruits is probably pretty small I would guess. I'd say Oregon, Miami, and A&M are the main culprits there, and it hasn't been working out too well for A&M or Miami. Just not worth it to pay HS kids who haven't proven anything. NIL will likely continue to go to the guys who have proven themselves on the college level- because at the end of the day that's where the best return on investment is for the companies/groups/people actually shelling out the hard cash for the NIL deals.

Only time I could really see HS recruit getting NIL money and being able to argue it's worth it is if it's like the #1 QB who is also the #1 overall player type deal- where landing a player like that could be a real game changer. But there are only 1 of those types every year if that.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 28, 2023, 11:28:13 AM


there are schools that have had collectives set up almost like an annual salary for a position group- like OL at this school get X per year- but those are collectives- the actual schools aren't involved in that at all- and players get that for being on scholarship at that position group- it's not a situation where recruit X is getting paid just to come to that school- every scholarship player in that positional group gets the same thing.

My issue with this is... How is this NIL and not just an end around pay-for-play? Instead of boosters and bagmen you have boosters and a "collective"...

Quote
the amount of schools actually doing pay for play NIL deals for HS recruits is probably pretty small I would guess. I'd

Isn't something being done directly by the school still violating NCAA rules?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 28, 2023, 11:31:13 AM
My issue with this is... How is this NIL and not just an end around pay-for-play? Instead of boosters and bagmen you have boosters and a "collective"...

Isn't something being done directly by the school still violating NCAA rules?
yes, schools can't have anything to do with NIL directly.

I should've wrote "school collectives/boosters". Miami, A&M, and Oregon collectives/boosters aren't shy about buying HS recruits. And it hasn't really been working for them...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2023, 12:50:16 PM
yes, schools can't have anything to do with NIL directly.

I should've wrote "school collectives/boosters". Miami, A&M, and Oregon collectives/boosters aren't shy about buying HS recruits. And it hasn't really been working for them...
Wink wink.

;)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on August 28, 2023, 01:03:18 PM
My issue with this is... How is this NIL and not just an end around pay-for-play? Instead of boosters and bagmen you have boosters and a "collective"...

Isn't something being done directly by the school still violating NCAA rules?
1) NCAA rules are superseded by state laws, and state laws allow more leeway in many states
2) Yes something being done directly by the school still violates most state laws, so that's not the way it is being set up.  An individual corporate entity, or a collective, lets the recruit know that "RBs at Oregon are currently making $150,000 per year and that's probably the kind of money you can expect." 
3) Yes it's all an end-around, but how else can you do it?  For scores of years, NCAA athletes have had their basic American rights denied them, rights that every other NON-athlete student has always had.  Such exceptions were and are illegal, and ultimately the states decided to break the paradigm.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 28, 2023, 01:18:07 PM
Jeem calling for revenue sharing with the athletes. been saying that forever. when you got coaches being paid $10 mil a year....billion dollar tv contracts....players bring in all the gd money....let 'em eat a little bit too.

can definitely see why NCAA don't like Jeem. He was one of the very first coaches hooting and hollering about a transfer portal, extremely pro-NIL, changing redshirt rules, overhauling draft eligibility rules. Very vocal about taking players on summer trips to Europe and South Africa, having satellite HS camps all over the US (which NCAA put a stop to). Jeem is 10000% pro player and anti-NCAA. that's why they out for his ass.

https://twitter.com/ByAZuniga/status/1696194730424512512?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2023, 01:27:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dlzFGQC.png)



Sometimes it seems like the officials think we are all there to see THEM.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 28, 2023, 02:00:18 PM
Prime knows fer sure that everyone is there to see him
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 28, 2023, 02:06:02 PM
3) Yes it's all an end-around, but how else can you do it?  For scores of years, NCAA athletes have had their basic American rights denied them, rights that every other NON-athlete student has always had.  Such exceptions were and are illegal, and ultimately the states decided to break the paradigm.
I get you. 

I have no issue with an athlete profiting from their NIL. If Dr Pepper wants to put DJ in commercials, good for DJ. If the local Ford dealership in Stillwater wants to pay an Oklahoma State star to appear in their print, radio, or TV ads, good for that athlete. 

But we were trying to avoid pay-for-play. And this is undoubtedly pay-for-play. 

I realize that it's really hard to police whether an athlete is actually profiting off NIL vs simply being given money for being an athlete at a certain school. 

But these collectives sound like the local Ford dealership in Stillwater giving the OkSU star a job for 20 hours a week... That he doesn't actually ever have to show up for. Which was the old end-around for college athletes, right?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on August 28, 2023, 02:27:52 PM
I get you.

I have no issue with an athlete profiting from their NIL. If Dr Pepper wants to put DJ in commercials, good for DJ. If the local Ford dealership in Stillwater wants to pay an Oklahoma State star to appear in their print, radio, or TV ads, good for that athlete.

But we were trying to avoid pay-for-play. And this is undoubtedly pay-for-play.

I realize that it's really hard to police whether an athlete is actually profiting off NIL vs simply being given money for being an athlete at a certain school.

But these collectives sound like the local Ford dealership in Stillwater giving the OkSU star a job for 20 hours a week... That he doesn't actually ever have to show up for. Which was the old end-around for college athletes, right?

Sure.  Time is a flat circle.  What's old is new again.  Etc.

I really just don't see any way around it.  There's no real way to determine intent.

Now, the one thing that has definitely been made against the rules, are the school's athletics foundations also serving as NIL providers.  That one's a pretty clear break and the NCAA came out as soon as they started hearing about it, and notified several universities that they were about to be under investigation. I know for certain that Texas A&M immediately ceased and desisted, I don't know for sure what happened to the other potential violators.

So, there's SOME rule enforcement.  It's just not going to be nearly enough.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 28, 2023, 02:52:45 PM
Sure.  Time is a flat circle.  What's old is new again.  Etc.

I really just don't see any way around it.  There's no real way to determine intent.

Now, the one thing that has definitely been made against the rules, are the school's athletics foundations also serving as NIL providers.  That one's a pretty clear break and the NCAA came out as soon as they started hearing about it, and notified several universities that they were about to be under investigation. I know for certain that Texas A&M immediately ceased and desisted, I don't know for sure what happened to the other potential violators.

So, there's SOME rule enforcement.  It's just not going to be nearly enough.
it's just gonna keep on changing. the money is just so insane now. it's a completely different world than it was 20 or 30 years ago. when coaches are making $10+ million a year, helmet schools are doing $200+ million in annual football revenues and conferences have $7 BILLION tv deals....kinda hard to justify not paying players.

NIL deals will still be important in the future for the top level stars, but won't be as important for most players bc sooner or later- and it's coming sooner rather than later- the NCAA will effectively be dead and there will be revenue sharing with players in the new 2-conference B1G24+SEC24 super league in which the super league will enforce salary caps and scholarship limits. No need for 85 players on scholly, spread the wealth, create more parity. Parity = better for tv ratings. better tv ratings = more money. Pay the players- but everyone has to pay them the same under a strict cap otherwise you run the risk of the richest schools just nabbing everyone up. that is where this thing is headed, like it or not.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 28, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
Prime knows fer sure that everyone is there to see him
Maybe see him off in a few
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 04, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
hey who knew, actually playing, you know, actual football in actual games is actually more important than looking great in t-shirts and shorts vs air in a summer camp...

Having said that, Jadyn Davis probably never starts at Michigan IF Jeem actually does his f**king job and keeps Bryce Underwood home in 2025. OR if Jeem decides to bolt off to the NFL at the 11th hr....then Michigan is probably gonna lose both QBs to other schools and suck all over again like RichRod/Hoke.

https://twitter.com/BBsBigHouse1/status/1698427493105975498?s=20

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 04, 2023, 11:47:28 AM
Jeem has been 'crootin' this EDGE Brian Robinson- a 4* top 150 overall 'croot from Ohio- and these other two jokers in the pic with him are EDGE and DT 'croots, brothers, and 4* top 250 overall 'croots that are Michigan commits that went on a visit to Kentucky with this Robinson fellow this past weekend. Jeem might actually win the B1G three years in a row, make the playoff three years in a row, and then lose these fcking kids to motherfcking Kentucky. Hey Michigan is winning conference titles and going to the playoffs a lot and putting DLs in the NFL draft a lot lately....hey you know what, let me go to KENTUCKY. 

Yeah, can't say I blame him for bolting to the NFL if it happens. I wouldn't want to recruit a bunch of retarded 16-18 year olds year round. FCK. THAT.

https://twitter.com/BRob_2323/status/1698342949086527600?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 04, 2023, 12:59:55 PM
Prime knows fer sure that everyone is there to see him
Specially Jesus
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 04, 2023, 01:04:07 PM
Hey Michigan is winning conference titles and going to the playoffs a lot and putting DLs in the NFL draft a lot lately....hey you know what, let me go to KENTUCKY.
Perhaps he thought JEEM might take liberties with the sleep over or maybe he wants to stay home.Or maybe he saw Rashan Gary's Wonderlic score ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 04, 2023, 02:36:10 PM
Jeem has been 'crootin' this EDGE Brian Robinson- a 4* top 150 overall 'croot from Ohio- and these other two jokers in the pic with him are EDGE and DT 'croots, brothers, and 4* top 250 overall 'croots that are Michigan commits that went on a visit to Kentucky with this Robinson fellow this past weekend. Jeem might actually win the B1G three years in a row, make the playoff three years in a row, and then lose these fcking kids to motherfcking Kentucky. Hey Michigan is winning conference titles and going to the playoffs a lot and putting DLs in the NFL draft a lot lately....hey you know what, let me go to KENTUCKY.

Yeah, can't say I blame him for bolting to the NFL if it happens. I wouldn't want to recruit a bunch of retarded 16-18 year olds year round. FCK. THAT.

https://twitter.com/BRob_2323/status/1698342949086527600?s=20
OSU is NOT interested in Robinson.  Might be doing you a favor by going to UK.  
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on September 04, 2023, 03:03:24 PM
Vince Marrow still holds a ton of sway there.

Fun fact, recruiting doesn't matter anymore.  It just gives you first crack at a kid.  But if you don't use him enough, or pay him enough, he'll leave.  The sooner people treat college football like the NFL, except with only one year deals, and no salary cap, the sooner we can realize what this is.

Kentucky has deep pockets, they'll pay for 17 year olds.  But when those kids perform, they don't have OSU, Michigan, Alabama pockets, for football, and those kids will leave.  Michigan is better off letting those kids go to Kentucky, and then decide if they are worth it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 04, 2023, 08:37:06 PM
OSU is NOT interested in Robinson.  Might be doing you a favor by going to UK. 
yeah but OSU also has like 5* EDGE commits and sh*t...they can afford to be picky. I have heard that Robinson is a physical specimen but is pretty new to playing defense and that his dad is a complete head case and was actually such a problem that the coach of Robinson's HS team told him to find another school- and then the dad went all Soccer-Mom psychopath all over Facebook and social media trashing the coach and the school. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 04, 2023, 08:38:55 PM
Vince Marrow still holds a ton of sway there.

Fun fact, recruiting doesn't matter anymore.  It just gives you first crack at a kid.  But if you don't use him enough, or pay him enough, he'll leave.  The sooner people treat college football like the NFL, except with only one year deals, and no salary cap, the sooner we can realize what this is.

Kentucky has deep pockets, they'll pay for 17 year olds.  But when those kids perform, they don't have OSU, Michigan, Alabama pockets, for football, and those kids will leave.  Michigan is better off letting those kids go to Kentucky, and then decide if they are worth it
I don't know, I'd still prefer to recruit HS kids, develop them and then just use the portal sparingly on a year by year case by case basis to plug holes or fill depth needs here and there.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on September 04, 2023, 08:57:39 PM
I don't know, I'd still prefer to recruit HS kids, develop them and then just use the portal sparingly on a year by year case by case basis to plug holes or fill depth needs here and there.
Yeah, but Michigan is in a place where they can just plug holes.  And that's the new norm.  Michigan will be plugging holes from mid tier P5 teams, like Kentucky.  So best to let those kids sort themselves out there
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 08, 2023, 12:03:32 PM
Not sure what the best topic for this graphic would be, so I decided on this one.

Some obvious ones here, and a couple of surprises...

(https://i.imgur.com/xEXgYGD.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on September 08, 2023, 07:22:41 PM
I think that shows how helmets rank.  Keon Coleman took less NIL to go transfer to FSU, because he thought it was a better path to the pros.  It's not the 90s anymore.  FSU and MSU have the same number of current pros.

Iowa has more than I would expect.  Texas has fewer
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 08, 2023, 07:25:34 PM
my Iowa buddies love this stat

and it's great for their recruiting

I like to ask them why they don't win more games with all this NFL talent
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 08, 2023, 08:10:30 PM
my Iowa buddies love this stat

and it's great for their recruiting

I like to ask them why they don't win more games with all this NFL talent
look at all the current NFL OLs and TEs Iowa has churned out. you'd think they could score more than 24 ppg.

same answer. two words.

Brian. Ferentz.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 08, 2023, 08:18:25 PM
unfortunately, no way to like that post 24 times
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 09, 2023, 09:34:49 AM
I think that shows how helmets rank.  Keon Coleman took less NIL to go transfer to FSU, because he thought it was a better path to the pros.  It's not the 90s anymore.  FSU and MSU have the same number of current pros.

Iowa has more than I would expect.  Texas has fewer
Yeah Texas has been struggling with developing talent and getting it into the League.  Tide may be changing though, this year we should put at least 6 or 7 into the draft.

But what really stuck out to me was how few Texas A&M has.  If you believe what the ag fans say, they've been out-recruiting and out-developing Texas for years.  They try to use that as a negative recruiting tactic.  The stats might indicate otherwise...
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 10, 2023, 11:14:55 AM
Yeah Texas has been struggling with developing talent and getting it into the League.  Tide may be changing though, this year we should put at least 6 or 7 into the draft.

But what really stuck out to me was how few Texas A&M has.  If you believe what the ag fans say, they've been out-recruiting and out-developing Texas for years.  They try to use that as a negative recruiting tactic.  The stats might indicate otherwise...
Texas is going to go on a run the next couple drafts of putting guys in the NFL. 

A&M is simple...they have a terrible retread of a coach who hasn't been good at his job in at least 10 years, took the $100 mil from A&M and ran away from Florida State and has checked out. They think they can buy coaches and HS recruits....and well, you can't. Can't buy winning culture, can't buy effort, can't buy discipline....and they have none of that. I legit can't believe they actually hired Bobby Petrino- another washed up retread like Jumbo. The game has passed both of those gumps by. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 10, 2023, 11:18:34 AM
Jadyn Davis probably going to re-earn his 5th star imo...not that it matters. And if they get Underwood in '25, Davis is going to hit the portal bc he's not beating out Underwood.

https://twitter.com/BBsBigHouse1/status/1700887270998614494?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 10, 2023, 04:47:16 PM
Jeem better get on the phone with 4* WR Nick Marsh. Kid is a freaking stud.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on September 10, 2023, 04:53:38 PM
Jeem better get on the phone with 4* WR Nick Marsh. Kid is a freaking stud.
Sounds like Courtney Hawkins was his guy.  According to one the 247 Midwest insider, this actually made him more solid to MSU, that he was not a Mel Tucker guy
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2023, 11:33:53 AM
Texas is going to go on a run the next couple drafts of putting guys in the NFL.

A&M is simple...they have a terrible retread of a coach who hasn't been good at his job in at least 10 years, took the $100 mil from A&M and ran away from Florida State and has checked out. They think they can buy coaches and HS recruits....and well, you can't. Can't buy winning culture, can't buy effort, can't buy discipline....and they have none of that. I legit can't believe they actually hired Bobby Petrino- another washed up retread like Jumbo. The game has passed both of those gumps by.
Agree with all of the above.  And because of my wife, I'm one of the rare Texas fans that actually pulls for the ags when they're not playing us.  But man they just keep digging themselves deeper and deeper.  Petrino might be the biggest WTF? of all time, perhaps.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 14, 2023, 03:48:32 PM
how does a Texas kid like this wind up at Texas Tech? Wow.

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1701384168800649422?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 14, 2023, 07:13:12 PM
how does a Texas kid like this wind up at Texas Tech? Wow.

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1701384168800649422?s=20
He's a legacy, his dad played at Tech.

Plus, Tech offered almost the entirety of their non-committed NIL funding to make him happy.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 21, 2023, 09:00:05 AM
JD Crisp received an offer from Nebraska this past weekend.

JD Crisp committed to Nebraska this past weekend.

It sure sounds like the staff is giving JD Crisp the freedom to play not only both sides of the ball but on the baseball field as well. He apparently is listed as a defensive back but can play wide receiver as well.

At 6 feet tall and 190 pounds he is an exceptional athlete.

So this is also a win for the Nebraska baseball team as well.

He is the 25th commitment in the 2024 class. He is also the eighth player from Texas in the class as well.

He currently has zero stars and is not ranked. I wouldn’t worry about that too much as Rhule has showed that he knows what he is looking for in athletes. He wants speed speed speed and because of this commitment, JD Crisp will likely be getting at least three stars.

Crisp had offers from Iowa, Air Force, Army, Navy and Arkansas State.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 21, 2023, 04:43:08 PM
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/378118211_802098448588130_8357775833559803172_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=Vg1QmWvhrOEAX9MCLfU&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=00_AfAj57FYU8HfiOeEYJLGvzRiIITYIwxw-Y78If00LDjTHg&oe=65124B40)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on September 27, 2023, 05:51:11 PM
4* S Reggie Powers has decommitted.  That one seemed like it was coming, even before the Mel Tucker stuff.  His film looked way too good for his ranking, and the ranking eventually caught up.  Very rarely does MSU hang onto an Ohio commit, once that OSU offer comes in, let alone Alabama, Georgia and Oklahoma
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2023, 09:34:30 PM
Nebraska's 2024 recruiting class is growing, and its latest addition is an in-state flip.

Papillion-La Vista tight end Eric Ingwerson, who committed to Pittsburgh in March, announced on social media Wednesday that he was joining Nebraska's recruiting class instead.

Ingwerson is the 26th overall commit and seventh in-state pledge in Nebraska's upcoming recruiting cycle. The 6-foot-7, 235-pound prospect has positional flexibility that could indicate a move to offensive tackle in the future, though his existing skills at tight end are hard to ignore.

Ingwerson joins Ainsworth's Carter Nelson and Ian Flynt as members of the Nebraska class, signaling that NU's future tight end room is in good hands.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 28, 2023, 08:35:57 AM
4* S Reggie Powers has decommitted.  That one seemed like it was coming, even before the Mel Tucker stuff.  His film looked way too good for his ranking, and the ranking eventually caught up.  Very rarely does MSU hang onto an Ohio commit, once that OSU offer comes in, let alone Alabama, Georgia and Oklahoma
UW is also on him. Fickell was his second offer, after UMass.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2023, 09:23:00 AM
lost his 5th star because he was more like 6'1ish and not 6'3+ and didn't wow with a huge arm in t-shirts and shorts in summer camps. Basically the opposite of Shane Morris- who was a t-shirt and shorts camp warrior that sucked at actually, you know, playing the game of football. 

Jadyn Davis has basically been perfect his senior year. 

https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1708954081295843557?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
thank god these bums flipped to Kentucky...lol. 

https://theathletic.com/4931777/2023/10/05/michigan-football-recruiting-kentucky/?source=user_shared_article


He said Kentucky’s 3-4 defense was a better fit for his skills than Michigan’s scheme, and he’d started to question whether his role at Michigan would be the one he envisioned during the recruiting process.

“I was told a few things, and I watched film on the school, and I feel like I wouldn’t be doing that there,” he said. “A few things they told me were going to happen with how many people they were going to take ended up being something totally different. Opportunity-wise, I didn’t feel like I was going to have the best opportunity there to make it to the next level as I would in a different conference.”

Both brothers acknowledged the opportunity to play early factor into their decisions.

Michigan’s coaches have stated their desire to rotate as many players as possible up front, and they’ve stuck to it this season. Edge rushers Jaylen Harrell, Braiden McGregor, Derrick Moore and Josaiah Stewart are averaging between 17 and 26 snaps per game, per TruMedia, with Harrell playing the most, Stewart playing the fewest and McGregor and Moore each averaging 22.

That kind of system isn’t for everyone, Moore said. Michigan’s rotation works because the Wolverines have buy-in from the entire group, especially the upperclassmen who sacrifice snaps to keep the defense fresh.

“A lot of guys can get frustrated with that if they’re not getting a certain amount of snaps or they’re not playing as much as they want,” said Moore, a top-50 prospect from the Class of 2022. “Especially with Braiden and Jaylen, they’re seniors. For (seniors), they probably think, ‘Oh, I’m going to be out there every play.’ But we don’t even think like that.”

The Smith brothers felt they could play anywhere, but they saw Kentucky as the program that offered the clearest path to the NFL.
“I feel like I would have developed just as good (at Michigan), but I don’t really want to sit for a year or two and develop,” Jerod said.


LOL. Michigan plays a base 3-4 defense as well. Michigan has been pumping out 1st and 2nd round picks at EDGE rusher the past 5 years. Has Kentucky had any outside of the Allen kid at Jacksonville? Who has been a bit of a bust by the way. Dear lord thank god Michigan dodged a bullet with both of these dumbass losers.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2023, 09:21:39 PM
An Omaha offensive lineman has announced that he is reopening his recruitment. Omaha Central three-star recruit Caleb Pyfrom has decommitted from the University of Illinois.

Pyform committed to Illinois at the end of June. He announced his decision on social media.



The 6-4 310-pound prospect is currently ranked as the No. 5 recruit in the state of Nebraska for the class of 2024. The Huskers missed the offensive linemen the first time around but are expected to be in the running the second time around.

Pyfrom is believed to preparing for a visit to campus sometime before the early signing period in December.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2023, 08:31:06 PM
Michigan QB commit Jadyn Davis hasn't played in a 4th QTR and his stat line is.. 79% completion, 1,972 Yds, 26 TD's vs 1 INT. Drops out of the 247 Top 100 though. Lol.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 21, 2023, 11:00:45 AM
One of the most explosive players in Nebraska is staying home. Caleb Benning, from Omaha (Neb.) Westside has committed to Matt Rhule and Nebraska. The future Husker follows his father, former Nebraska running back Damon Benning, to Lincoln to write his own legacy. Benning’s commitment brings the 2024 recruiting class total to 27.

Caleb Benning was easily the most talked about in-state player through the first part of his senior season. Benning came out and started fast, leading Westside to a perfect record through nine games and leading a stifling defense.

Benning is likely being looked at to play in the Nebraska secondary by Matt Rhule and his staff. But Benning could also figure into the wide receiver picture for the Huskers. Benning has picked off four passes and caught five touchdown passes through nine games. Benning also scored on a kickoff return in his first game of the season.


he future Husker is Nebraska’s seventh, in-state commitment in the 2024 class and the 27th commitment overall. Benning joins Bellevue West teammates quarterback Daniel Kaelin, wide receivers Dae’Vonn Hall and Isaiah McMorris
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2023, 06:35:40 PM
The Huskers have found pass-rushing help for the 2024 class. Nebraska offered Frisco (Texas) Lonestar Edge Jaxon Lee last week following Nebraska’s bye week. The 6-foot-3 and 215-pound pass rush specialist was committed to Texas Tech before re-opening his recruitment. Lee officially visited Nebraska for the Northwestern game and became the 28th commitment in the class.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on November 13, 2023, 02:49:44 PM
So of the kids who decommitted after Tucker was fired, one has landed at Oklahoma; one has landed at FSU; and one is taking an OV to Clemson this weekend.

Not sure they ever would have been coached into crap, but he was upgrading the talent, starting with his first real class, 2022.  Starting totally from scratch again
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Temp430 on November 30, 2023, 08:38:32 AM
2024 Blue chip DL decommits from Ohio State


https://www.on3.com/news/justin-scott-miami-hurricanes-five-star-defensive-lineman-flips-from-ohio-state-buckeyes/ (https://www.on3.com/news/justin-scott-miami-hurricanes-five-star-defensive-lineman-flips-from-ohio-state-buckeyes/)



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperMario on November 30, 2023, 05:52:41 PM
2023 Mr. Ohio announced today. Where would a Mr. Ohio elect to go college?

Mr. Ohio (https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2023/11/cincinnati-moellers-jordan-marshall-wins-2023-ohio-mr-football-award.html)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Temp430 on December 01, 2023, 07:16:34 AM
Michigan commit named best player in Ohio

https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-wolverines-football-jordan-marshall-big-ten-running-back-ohio-state-high-school-recruiting-rankings (https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-wolverines-football-jordan-marshall-big-ten-running-back-ohio-state-high-school-recruiting-rankings)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 01, 2023, 07:35:50 AM
Wisconsin did that to Illinois. :86:

Chicago Sun-Times High School Football Player of the Year: Mount Carmel’s Darrion Dupree - Chicago Sun-Times (suntimes.com) (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/11/30/23982756/darrion-dupree-mount-carmel-sun-times-player-of-the-year-chicago)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 01, 2023, 08:20:41 AM
wonder who the last Mr. Ohio that Michigan was able to get. probably been awhile. 

Marshall is legit. He's the type of back that Corum/Edwards are on 'crootin' paper and the type of back they need to keep getting because both those guys are gone after this year. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 01, 2023, 08:47:09 AM
wonder who the last Mr. Ohio that Michigan was able to get. probably been awhile.
Woodson is the only other one.

Granted the Mr. Football in a lot of states is frequently not the highest rated recruit, a lot of times its a guy who puts up massive stats.

The only Mr. Football to commit to Ohio State since 2014 is Cade Stover.  Since then, Ashland (D2), Cincinnati, Elon, OSU, Cincinnati, LSU, PSU and Buffalo

Likewise, since 2008, only 2 Michigan Mr. Football (Alex Malzone and Donovan Edwards) have gone to Michigan.  5 have gone to MSU, but 2 were just walk ons.  One of the 3 scholarship players wound up transferring to WMU.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperMario on December 01, 2023, 09:39:19 AM
Another Medina quarterback was in the running for Mr. Ohio as well. It’s interesting to wonder if it’s the coaching that’s producing PSU’s Allar and this years star Danny Stoddard or if @medinabuckeye1 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1547) is putting things in the water, trying to produce the next Buckeye superstar qb.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 01, 2023, 09:42:23 AM
Another Medina quarterback was in the running for Mr. Ohio as well. It’s interesting to wonder if it’s the coaching that’s producing PSU’s Allar and this years star Danny Stoddard or if @medinabuckeye1 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1547) is putting things in the water, trying to produce the next Buckeye superstar qb.
It's me, all me, LoL
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 01, 2023, 02:06:25 PM
http://www.hudl.com/v/2K6Sek


Ohio State wanted Marshall.  So- they just went and got a higher rated RB that Bama wanted (among many others)

and this kid- as backup.  12 rated RB.

http://www.hudl.com/v/2K5cWS

And, this kid from Ohio:

OSU Commit RB Sam Williams-Dixon Ultimate Jr SZN Highlights! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSz-40Qe7U)

I think they will be fine...


Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 01, 2023, 02:15:07 PM
Looks like the one Mr. Football from Michigan on OSU's roster, Cameron Martinez, is entering the portal
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 01, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
Looks like the one Mr. Football from Michigan on OSU's roster, Cameron Martinez, is entering the portal
Yes.   He has been passed by several underclassmen. 

he was a stud at Muskegon, but as a quarterback. 
He would probably make a great slot receiver, and kick/punt, returner      
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 01, 2023, 02:29:26 PM
It's me, all me, LoL
Well step on it dammit gonna be an open field in spring
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2023, 11:58:19 PM
The Nebraska Board of Regents approved a donor’s gift that will help with recruiting, according to KETV. A $1 million Learjet from an anonymous donor can be used by the coaching staff to help with recruiting.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 02, 2023, 09:34:49 AM
http://www.hudl.com/v/2K6Sek


Ohio State wanted Marshall.  So- they just went and got a higher rated RB that Bama wanted (among many others)

and this kid- as backup.  12 rated RB.

http://www.hudl.com/v/2K5cWS

And, this kid from Ohio:

OSU Commit RB Sam Williams-Dixon Ultimate Jr SZN Highlights! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSz-40Qe7U)

I think they will be fine...




(https://i.imgur.com/KDH7ztB.png)

Same for UW, minus the Bama offer.

Dilin Jones Recruit Interests (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/dilin-jones-154401/RecruitInterests/)But Bama is actively trying to flip this one:

Darrion Dupree Recruit Interests (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/darrion-dupree-148588/RecruitInterests/)Hopefully UW can hang on. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 07, 2023, 08:19:13 AM
Probably headed to UNL or Rutgers.

UW broke this off, FWIW.

(https://i.imgur.com/HCPEirh.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Entropy on December 07, 2023, 10:53:01 AM
Several Nebraska fans think UNL will land a package deal with several of the OSU players in the portal.  Not sure if there is inside info or just wishful thinking.   Either way, UNL needs talent on offense... BADLY.   I'm not sure UNL had a single starter on offense that would have started on another BIG team.   
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 07, 2023, 10:59:57 AM
possibly a TE

that's it
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperMario on December 07, 2023, 12:06:21 PM
Several Nebraska fans think UNL will land a package deal with several of the OSU players in the portal.  Not sure if there is inside info or just wishful thinking.  Either way, UNL needs talent on offense... BADLY.  I'm not sure UNL had a single starter on offense that would have started on another BIG team. 
This will show my lack of understanding on this topic. Is there known circumstances or incidences where a program or someone that backs the NIL money says to a player in the portal, we will only pay you player B if you convince player A to also come with you?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Several Nebraska fans think UNL will land a package deal with several of the OSU players in the portal.  Not sure if there is inside info or just wishful thinking.  Either way, UNL needs talent on offense... BADLY.  I'm not sure UNL had a single starter on offense that would have started on another BIG team. 
Been a while!! Welcome back.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 08, 2023, 08:41:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KDH7ztB.png)

Same for UW, minus the Bama offer.

Dilin Jones Recruit Interests (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/dilin-jones-154401/RecruitInterests/)But Bama is actively trying to flip this one:

Darrion Dupree Recruit Interests (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/darrion-dupree-148588/RecruitInterests/)Hopefully UW can hang on.
yeah, except neither Jones or the OSU kid Peoples are rated higher than Marshall....

these are 247's own rankings. Look at the 247Composite or the On3 Industry rankings- which tend to be a better gauge- and Marshall is higher than either in both....
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 08, 2023, 08:51:07 AM
This will show my lack of understanding on this topic. Is there known circumstances or incidences where a program or someone that backs the NIL money says to a player in the portal, we will only pay you player B if you convince player A to also come with you?
Package deals are not unique but the actual rules pertaining to that are sketchy - good question.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 08, 2023, 08:54:14 AM
yeah, except neither Jones or the OSU kid Peoples are rated higher than Marshall....

these are 247's own rankings. Look at the 247Composite or the On3 Industry rankings- which tend to be a better gauge- and Marshall is higher than either in both....
I trust On3 about as much as I trust Booger/Stallions/Weiss /Partridge. Guess we'll find out if it sticks.I remember us argueing about 2 RB recruits about 10 yrs ago and both rolled over and didn't play much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 08, 2023, 09:02:15 AM
This will show my lack of understanding on this topic. Is there known circumstances or incidences where a program or someone that backs the NIL money says to a player in the portal, we will only pay you player B if you convince player A to also come with you?
I mean "technically" it can't be pay to play.

But there were rumors last year that when Thorne, Coleman and Brantley all entered the portal on the same day, and then Brantley returned, was that he had an NIL deal with Oklahoma that was contingent on him getting Coleman to come with him.  Without Coleman, Brantley didn't have a deal
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 10, 2023, 01:15:50 PM
Jeem and his staff definitely doing something right in the trenches on both sides of the LoS, recruiting and developing. Feel like they have excellent S&C guy in Ben Herbert and their OL & DL coaches are as good as it gets in Sherrone Moore and Mike Elston.

Majority of the games are won or lost with the OL & DL.

https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1733873849161093515?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Entropy on December 11, 2023, 05:35:35 PM
This will show my lack of understanding on this topic. Is there known circumstances or incidences where a program or someone that backs the NIL money says to a player in the portal, we will only pay you player B if you convince player A to also come with you?
that's a good question.  I'm sure like any contract, there are variations and qualifiers/incentives.   I have not heard that this would be a packaged deal in that sense, rather, the two are both leaning towards UNL.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 12, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cuKFFr2.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Temp430 on December 12, 2023, 08:56:03 AM
With McCord maybe to Nebraska too its Christmas early in Lincoln.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 12, 2023, 09:04:19 AM
I wish Donovan Raiola was coaching the OL at his alma mater.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 12, 2023, 09:36:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cuKFFr2.png)
the bust factor is high with this kid imo. 

that'd be 3 different schools he committed to in the last year if he does flip. not to mention his play seemed to take a dip after he transferred to Georgia and played much better HS competition and he went from the consensus #1 player to dipping a little bit on all the ratings. Oh yeah he's also played for I think 4 different high schools in 4 years. 

Perfect fit for Nebraska. Definitely over hyped, and probably just not that good.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 12, 2023, 10:04:57 AM
He commited to the Buckeyes for a cup of coffee,didn't want to sit behind Stroud.I understand with the portal,NIL Coin and everything else going on in CFB but if he went to 4 different High Schools well that is not a solid base to work from.Many of these services are tossing guys like this out there to get clicks IMO
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 12, 2023, 10:09:17 AM
coincidence...

(https://i.imgur.com/RbVSbo8.png)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 12, 2023, 01:27:21 PM
He commited to the Buckeyes for a cup of coffee,didn't want to sit behind Stroud.I understand with the portal,NIL Coin and everything else going on in CFB but if he went to 4 different High Schools well that is not a solid base to work from.Many of these services are tossing guys like this out there to get clicks IMO
Don’t think Stroud had anything to do with it, as he’s in the NFL right now and Raiola is still in HS. Think you’re confusing him with Ewers, who was also a #1 QB- and who did not want to sit behind Stroud.

Kids who commit to 3 different colleges in the span of a year probably don’t work out very often. Especially at a position like QB that takes so much mental toughness, commitment, and fortitude to be great. Flighty, flakey, lack of commitment, and indecisiveness are not good traits for a QB….
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2023, 01:27:57 PM
I wish Donovan Raiola was coaching the OL at his alma mater.
Have you seen the Husker O-line?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
With McCord maybe to Nebraska too its Christmas early in Lincoln.
why give McCord $1.8 million if you can get Raiola for $2 mill?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on December 12, 2023, 01:37:06 PM
Yup, things are getting weird.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 12, 2023, 01:38:06 PM
why give McCord $1.8 million if you can get Raiola for $2 mill?
Because if Railoa isn't happy, he can transfer in a year. You have McCord now until he graduates, unless he wants to sit out a year
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2023, 01:40:48 PM
it's a risk, but if Railoa is happy and a first year starter, he's there until he goes to the NFL
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 12, 2023, 01:50:00 PM
it's a risk, but if Railoa is happy and a first year starter, he's there until he goes to the NFL
Unless he's so good someone pays him more
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 12, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
Have you seen the Husker O-line?
They kinda suck, but some of that is recruiting.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 12, 2023, 02:05:59 PM
Don’t think Stroud had anything to do with it, as he’s in the NFL right now and Raiola is still in HS. Think you’re confusing him with Ewers, who was also a #1 QB- and who did not want to sit behind Stroud.

Kids who commit to 3 different colleges in the span of a year probably don’t work out very often. Especially at a position like QB that takes so much mental toughness, commitment, and fortitude to be great. Flighty, flakey, lack of commitment, and indecisiveness are not good traits for a QB….
Ewers went to OSU for $$$ that Texas could not pay (at the time due to state law) if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on December 12, 2023, 02:07:28 PM
A problem with signing with a "UGA" is you could well end up riding the bench longer than you would like.

They have another QB (Puglisi) who some folks think is better anyway, this could well be grapes that spoiled.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2023, 06:39:18 PM
They kinda suck, but some of that is recruiting.
well, the number of stars has been better than performance

Plenty of 4-stars and 1 5-star
But, SkiCat told me the 5-star from Kansas was soft
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2023, 06:41:35 PM
Unless he's so good someone pays him more
there are programs that could do that, but that would be some serious $$$

seems UNL is willing to pay $2 million, probably more if the kid is really that good
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 12, 2023, 07:09:17 PM
Ewers went to OSU for $$$ that Texas could not pay (at the time due to state law) if I remember correctly.
He was committed to OSU and I think wanted to be there. But then the NIL stuff became a real thing, so he reclassified and went a year early because he couldn't make money in Texas as a high schooler. But then he would have had to sit behind Stroud for two years, so he transferred to Texas. Certainly, it has worked out for him.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 13, 2023, 09:28:40 AM
He was committed to OSU and I think wanted to be there. But then the NIL stuff became a real thing, so he reclassified and went a year early because he couldn't make money in Texas as a high schooler. But then he would have had to sit behind Stroud for two years, so he transferred to Texas. Certainly, it has worked out for him.
yeah that's exactly what happened. Ewers would probably be the starting QB at Ohio State right now if he never reclassified and skipped his senior season of HS. He was suppose to be a '22 recruit but reclassified to the '21 class. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 13, 2023, 09:50:58 AM
College Football Winners And Losers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUN4BZRqsyc

Good Segment
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 13, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Sounds like current Nebraska QB commit, Daniel Kaelin is going to flip to MSU per 247

From May, when he flipped from Missouri to Nebraska, once Raiola committed to Georgia.  Apparently Rhule is going to honor his offer though

Daniel Kaelin is the first quarterback from Nebraska to be invited to the Elite 11 QB Camp. Daniel scored in the Top 5 in several categories at the camp, including winning the accuracy competition.  Daniel loves what Matt Rhule is building and why he immediately flipped his commitment from Missouri to Nebraska when there was an opening.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 13, 2023, 02:40:27 PM
then the Riaola rumor must be true
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 13, 2023, 07:39:27 PM
then the Riaola rumor must be true
Sounds like it. McCord apparently not going to Nebraska either.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 18, 2023, 05:24:57 PM
There it is.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 18, 2023, 10:54:44 PM
yup, UNL has never been a top recruiting program

if Rhule can change that, it's obviously huge
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 18, 2023, 11:32:57 PM
What's the uncle budget?
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 18, 2023, 11:54:01 PM
hah, I knew it when the Uncle got a raise

because the O-line has not been good
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2023, 07:34:46 AM
hah, I knew it when the Uncle got a raise

because the O-line has not been good
He had a really good OL coach in Madison and played at a high level - senior captain. He should know how to coach.

He needs to up the recruiting game.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 19, 2023, 08:03:45 AM
aren't you the guy that has noticed the 4 and 5 stars on the Oline in Madison haven't been as good as the 3 stars from a decade ago?

Jurgens (Nebraska kid) apparently was pretty good.  Starting right guard for the Eagles.  Had the guy at center at UNL where he struggled to snap the ball.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2023, 09:00:32 AM
aren't you the guy that has noticed the 4 and 5 stars on the Oline in Madison haven't been as good as the 3 stars from a decade ago?

Jurgens (Nebraska kid) apparently was pretty good.  Starting right guard for the Eagles.  Had the guy at center at UNL where he struggled to snap the ball.
Yep, and I think that's a product of in-state OL kids getting higher ratings than they used to, and the fact that the bluebloods are coming in with offers. UW is not keeping the kids home like they used to. The "wall" King Barry built is no longer.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 19, 2023, 10:55:37 AM
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2023/12/144089/ohio-state-tight-end-commit-damarion-witten-earns-mvp-honors-at-us-army-bowl


Damarion Witten was the MVP of Monday night’s U.S. Army Bowl.


The Ohio State tight end commit was named the all-star game’s top player after catching four passes for 96 yards and three touchdowns.



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2023, 11:13:35 AM
Someone did a great job of photo shipping fans to watch the Canes. Big flip here.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 19, 2023, 11:17:20 AM
staying home
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on December 19, 2023, 11:19:14 AM
Miami has a really comprehensive, coordinated, highly developed NIL program.  Right up there with tOSU, Oregon, and Texas.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2023, 11:30:26 AM
Yep, and it's all one guy, essentially.

UW trying really hard to hold off a late Canes push for a really nice DB out of Fort Lauderdale (American Heritage).

Xavier Lucas, 2024 Cornerback, Wisconsin (rivals.com) (https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/xavier-lucas-295121?view=pv)

Xavier Lucas, American Heritage, Safety (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Lucas-46135130/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 19, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 08:47:05 AM
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/12/144121/signed-aaron-scott-brings-five-star-talent-to-ohio-state-adds-speed-and-versatility-to-the-buckeyes-cornerback-roo


The No. 1-ranked recruit from Ohio is a Buckeye.


Aaron Scott Jr., the No. 34 overall prospect and No. 2 cornerback in the class of 2024, according to the 247Sports composite (https://247sports.com/player/aaron-scott-46129065/), put pen to paper on his National Letter of Intent to Ohio State,



Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 20, 2023, 08:48:47 AM
can't allow the in-state kids to go up north
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 08:54:19 AM
Mr Ohio did but pretty sure he is not the highest ranked by the services
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 20, 2023, 08:59:45 AM
listening live from Memorial Stadium in Lincoln

Dylan actually signed
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2023, 09:59:17 AM
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/12/144121/signed-aaron-scott-brings-five-star-talent-to-ohio-state-adds-speed-and-versatility-to-the-buckeyes-cornerback-roo


The No. 1-ranked recruit from Ohio is a Buckeye.



Aaron Scott Jr., the No. 34 overall prospect and No. 2 cornerback in the class of 2024, according to the 247Sports composite (https://247sports.com/player/aaron-scott-46129065/), put pen to paper on his National Letter of Intent to Ohio State,

should've went to Michigan to follow in Will Johnson's footsteps. Ah well. He'll just have to enjoy getting beat by Michigan every year now :)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2023, 10:12:27 AM
Miami has a really comprehensive, coordinated, highly developed NIL program.  Right up there with tOSU, Oregon, and Texas.
One of those does not belong with the others.  

Ohio State.   They DO NOT do well with new recruits who have NIL as their top priority.  They believe in prioritizing current players who have proven themselves at the college level. Thats why they get picked apart by flips away versus flips toward. 

I actually like that strategy.   
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 10:15:23 AM
should've went to Michigan to follow in Will Johnson's footsteps. Ah well. He'll just have to enjoy getting beat by Michigan every year now :)
I'll take that bet next November
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: utee94 on December 20, 2023, 10:27:47 AM
One of those does not belong with the others. 

Ohio State.  They DO NOT do well with new recruits who have NIL as their top priority.  They believe in prioritizing current players who have proven themselves at the college level. Thats why they get picked apart by flips away versus flips toward.

I actually like that strategy. 
Not really commenting on the strategy, more on the developed capability.

My source is the guy in charge of Texas' 2nd biggest NIL collective, so he knows exactly what Texas' capabilities are, and he gains info about other schools' offers and initiatives, mostly from the recruits themselves.  The guys you get, are willing to talk about what other offers they had, and where they were coming from.

Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 10:31:21 AM
One of those does not belong with the others. 

Ohio State.  They DO NOT do well with new recruits who have NIL as their top priority.  They believe in prioritizing current players who have proven themselves at the college level. Thats why they get picked apart by flips away versus flips toward.

I actually like that strategy. 
This is Fickell's way as well.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 20, 2023, 10:57:58 AM
BREAKING: Nebraska flips 3-star CB Larry Tarver Jr. out of Miami.

Tarver was previously committed to Maryland.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 11:01:17 AM
Ya no chance of him flipping again,did he sign a LOI
Edit: signed today according to 24/7
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 12:04:33 PM
What the heck is going on in CBus today? 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2023, 12:10:50 PM
What the heck is going on in CBus today?
Same thing that happens every year. Sign a great class, bellyache about why it isn't ten times better
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2023, 12:23:16 PM
Of the 15 players to be ranked in the top 5 of ESPN's recruiting rankings over the past 3 years, 7 have either transferred, or are currently in the portal.

Today is largely irrelevant
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2023, 12:24:31 PM
Of the 15 players to be ranked in the top 5 of ESPN's recruiting rankings over the past 3 years, 7 have either transferred, or are currently in the portal.

Today is largely irrelevant
Signing day moving to during the season, plus the transfer portal, definitely takes the juice out of it. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 12:25:21 PM
Same thing that happens every year. Sign a great class, bellyache about why it isn't ten times better
We need to be uncomfortable again (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/120/Contents/we-need-to-be-uncomfortable-again-223572044/?page=1)I was thinking about this.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2023, 12:34:45 PM
We need to be uncomfortable again (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/120/Contents/we-need-to-be-uncomfortable-again-223572044/?page=1)I was thinking about this.
They apparently only have one recruit on the d-line, mostly because of rumors that Larry Johnson (the d-line coach) is retiring. Fire everybody.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 12:43:14 PM
Seems like an overreaction to me. 

BUT

They did lose that 4* WR to Oregon today, and that 4* RB to Miami yesterday, and a 5* DL to Miami a week or so ago.

Kinda proves out that Day isn't using bags to entice recruits. As he shouldn't. At least not much. 

It's against NCAA rules (yuk yuk).

The bags, according to said toothless NCAA, should be for current players and high-end transfers (if we really need bags...).
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2023, 12:51:35 PM
Seems like an overreaction to me.

BUT

They did lose that 4* WR to Oregon today, and that 4* RB to Miami yesterday, and a 5* DL to Miami a week or so ago.

Kinda proves out that Day isn't using bags to entice recruits. As he shouldn't. At least not much.

It's against NCAA rules (yuk yuk).

The bags, according to said toothless NCAA, should be for current players and high-end transfers (if we really need bags...).
FWIH, OSU's NIL is well funded but not well organized.

You hoenstly need a GM to manage the funds at this point, and most P5 schools now have one
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 12:56:18 PM
I think Joe Thomas and Brooks Bollinger help manage it at Wisconsin.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2023, 01:02:08 PM
Always love me some Brooks Bollinger
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 01:06:03 PM
You know he's my favorite. Been saying it for years. They just don't make 'em like that too often.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2023, 01:13:00 PM
Well the lineman they thought was flipping didn't so it was much ado about nothing. Normal day in Columbus.
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 01:15:28 PM
Badgers manage to hold on to this kid, despite a strong late push from the hometown Canes.

Xavier Lucas Sticks With Wisconsin, Signs National Letter of Intent (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/board/23/Contents/xavier-lucas-sticks-with-wisconsin-signs-national-letter-of-intent-223556169/?page=1)

Tons of offers.

Xavier Lucas Recruit Interests (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/xavier-lucas-158254/RecruitInterests/)
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2023, 01:25:38 PM
You know he's my favorite. Been saying it for years. They just don't make 'em like that too often.
My favorite Badger too.  I'm sure we've discussed this before
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 01:26:52 PM
They apparently only have one recruit on the d-line, mostly because of rumors that Larry Johnson (the d-line coach) is retiring. Fire everybody.
He needs to,things are just too different from what he came up with and the DL hasn't been very stout since URBZ recruits left
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2023, 01:32:05 PM
He needs to,things are just too different from what he came up with and the DL hasn't been very stout since URBZ recruits left
Burn it down
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2023, 01:37:00 PM
If they lose to Mizzou that's exactly what'll happen to the couches
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2023, 01:49:16 PM
He needs to,things are just too different from what he came up with and the DL hasn't been very stout since URBZ recruits left
I thought they were pretty good this year. I thought he might leave - he is 71, and I'm not sure he and Knowles are on the same page really. 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2023, 05:24:13 PM
Badgers kicked some ass today with signing day commits.

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Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2023, 02:10:09 PM
I thought they were pretty good this year. I thought he might leave - he is 71, and I'm not sure he and Knowles are on the same page really.
Ya surprised they landed Houston on the D-Line but they lost that Williams kid to Auburn,read good things about him. But supposedly Houston said he came because of LJ so there's that
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Entropy on December 21, 2023, 06:58:58 PM
One of those does not belong with the others. 

Ohio State.  They DO NOT do well with new recruits who have NIL as their top priority.  They believe in prioritizing current players who have proven themselves at the college level. Thats why they get picked apart by flips away versus flips toward.

I actually like that strategy. 
yea... it's better to invest in what you have and develop.   
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Entropy on December 21, 2023, 07:05:21 PM
Of the 15 players to be ranked in the top 5 of ESPN's recruiting rankings over the past 3 years, 7 have either transferred, or are currently in the portal.

Today is largely irrelevant
mabye.... I think the one thing the NIL is doing is spreading talent.  And looking at the 5 start kids, they spread out more than they did in the past.  ALSO..  i recall a long time ago losing kids because they were worried about depth and playing time.  I think playing time is now a bigger factor than it was 5-8 years ago. jmo
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Entropy on December 21, 2023, 07:07:56 PM
Missouri's NIL seemed to be much more organized and in a better position than many people thought a month ago... 
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 24, 2023, 09:52:38 AM
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1 Indy
1 XII
3 ACC
7 B1G
12 SEC
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2023, 12:33:19 PM
https://cornhuskerswire.usatoday.com/lists/nebaska-football-big-ten-recruiting-class-2024-rankings/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3N7Z2lC7tPknO34L51Q9r-yLAtJKVvnHdXmH4GzwM2MTsx668Io6wQ1SE (https://cornhuskerswire.usatoday.com/lists/nebaska-football-big-ten-recruiting-class-2024-rankings/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3N7Z2lC7tPknO34L51Q9r-yLAtJKVvnHdXmH4GzwM2MTsx668Io6wQ1SE)

#17 - UCLA

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4 Stars: 3

3 Stars: 8
Title: Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2024, 01:45:40 PM
Nebraska football was able to land three-star defensive end Jordan Ochoa on Thursday. He made the announcement on X.

Ochoa measures in at six-foot-four, 225 pounds. He comes from Colorado. Ochoa received four offers in total during his recruitment. Wyoming, Florida A&M, Jackson State, and Washington all extended an offer his way. He committed to Wyoming on April 29, but decommitted on September 26 of last year.