2024 Recruiting Thread

[Mdot21]

They say at the top that these are projections.

Is Arch gonna start this year?

that is not what that tweet says. that tweet says Arch is currently projected to make $2.9 million this year. 

a) that is not true. Arch does not have a single NIL deal signed.

b) even if it somehow was, there is literally no way for anyone over at On3 to know that unless players are sharing their NIL contracts with On3. They're not.

THAT IS NOT what that On3 list is. The On3 list is not a projection of what each player will make this year. They have no fkn clue what each player would make. The list is merely a projection of what On3 THINKS said players name is worth. They literally have no way of knowing that. At all. It's made up phony bullshit. Not worth the paper it's written on. We might as well wipe our asses with that list.

[847badgerfan]

We might as well wipe our asses with that list.

I'm not gonna mess up my monitor doing that.

[MrNubbz]

 It's made up phony bullshit. Not worth the paper it's written on. We might as well wipe our asses with that list 

Well just in case there is another run on TP can you email me that list?

[MrNubbz]

Former 247 owner and some of his guys.

Evidently he hasn't sharpened his skills 

[FearlessF]

anyone can project something in the future

weather guys do this with Hurricanes, for example

doesn't mean it's gonna happen

it's a guess

[Cincydawg]

Is an NIL driven recruit likely to end up a bust in CFB, or more likely than others?

[MrNubbz]

they might feel the pressure and fold or not give rats ass and fold anyway - take a poll

[FearlessF]

I don't think so

if money is the only motivation, maybe

but, even money can have a positive motivation

if you don't work hard enough to make the two-deep, the money goes away

[MrNubbz]

Well they are 18/19 yrs old

[Cincydawg]

Well, let's say the kid is poor, and really needs the money, or just wants it, fine.  He chooses X over Y for that reason, even if Y would do a better job getting him prepared.

What is his primary motivation?  Is he going to want to work hard?  Is he coachable?  Or is he maybe a slacker who does the minimum to get by with a coaching staff afraid to cross him?

[FearlessF]

Coach Rhule addressed this

says he wants kids that want to work hard, take coaching to be developed for the NFL

not so much the kid that just wants some quick NIL $$$

I think Coach knows that fi he puts players in the NFL he will get better recruits

but, then even 4 and 5 star recruits better be prepared to work hard, take coaching to be developed for the NFL

even extremely talented kids need to work to get to the NFL

[MrNubbz]

FF I think that's where a lot of CFB coaches are or should be

[Mdot21]

that is pretty much what Michigan is doing with NIL as far as I can tell. they are telling recruits look if you come here and become a star player you're going to make a bunch of NIL money- just like Blake Corum and JJ McCarthy are making right now. they aren't promising anything- and they can't. just saying look- proof is in the pudding. 

there are schools that have had collectives set up almost like an annual salary for a position group- like OL at this school get X per year- but those are collectives- the actual schools aren't involved in that at all- and players get that for being on scholarship at that position group- it's not a situation where recruit X is getting paid just to come to that school- every scholarship player in that positional group gets the same thing.

the amount of schools actually doing pay for play NIL deals for HS recruits is probably pretty small I would guess. I'd say Oregon, Miami, and A&M are the main culprits there, and it hasn't been working out too well for A&M or Miami. Just not worth it to pay HS kids who haven't proven anything. NIL will likely continue to go to the guys who have proven themselves on the college level- because at the end of the day that's where the best return on investment is for the companies/groups/people actually shelling out the hard cash for the NIL deals.

Only time I could really see HS recruit getting NIL money and being able to argue it's worth it is if it's like the #1 QB who is also the #1 overall player type deal- where landing a player like that could be a real game changer. But there are only 1 of those types every year if that.

[betarhoalphadelta]

there are schools that have had collectives set up almost like an annual salary for a position group- like OL at this school get X per year- but those are collectives- the actual schools aren't involved in that at all- and players get that for being on scholarship at that position group- it's not a situation where recruit X is getting paid just to come to that school- every scholarship player in that positional group gets the same thing.

My issue with this is... How is this NIL and not just an end around pay-for-play? Instead of boosters and bagmen you have boosters and a "collective"...

the amount of schools actually doing pay for play NIL deals for HS recruits is probably pretty small I would guess. I'd

Isn't something being done directly by the school still violating NCAA rules?