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Topic: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande

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utee94

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Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:20:14 PM »
Big Matt always liked talking about this game, and of course Bedlam.  He loved to give us hell when the Pokes would pull one out over the arrogant, wealthy Texicans.

I don't want to see Texas lose, but I'll be ok if the Pokes give Texas a game, for Big Matt's sake.  And I thoroughly expect they will.


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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 12:38:07 PM »
Im very concerned about this game

Even though the Vegas line favors the Horns by 6.5, I dont buy that

We better come out with a much better pass def or we're toast
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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 01:12:22 PM »
oSu is a game about composure. There's no reason why, over 60 minutes, Texas shouldn't be the better team.

However, the Cowboys have offensive weapons. Hubbard and Wallace are going to land some big punches. The danger, though, is that the Texas defense gets all steamed up about it, and starts to play on tilt. They overpursue. Run themselves out of plays. Try to jump routes and anticipate. When that happens, all the other weapons on the field go unaccounted for, and a shootout ensues (or butt-kicking).

Texas used to regularly get behind the Cowboys by 3+ TDs. Rather than panic, they'd just go out and wait for the inevitable turning of the tide. They expected it and it came. Winners become mentally tough - which leads to more wins.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »
oSu is a game about composure. There's no reason why, over 60 minutes, Texas shouldn't be the better team.

However, the Cowboys have offensive weapons. Hubbard and Wallace are going to land some big punches. The danger, though, is that the Texas defense gets all steamed up about it, and starts to play on tilt. They overpursue. Run themselves out of plays. Try to jump routes and anticipate. When that happens, all the other weapons on the field go unaccounted for, and a shootout ensues (or butt-kicking).

Texas used to regularly get behind the Cowboys by 3+ TDs. Rather than panic, they'd just go out and wait for the inevitable turning of the tide. They expected it and it came. Winners become mentally tough - which leads to more wins.
well if we had VY at QB we could maybe do that but Im not sure this team can
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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 01:23:14 PM »
I'm concerned about all of them except Texas Tech and Kansas.  (for now...)

I would like to see more run game from us - keeping Ok State offense off the field.

Our 3rd string QB is the best RB we have to this point, he seems to have the best vision and the best ability to escape tackles.

Daniel Young has always shown promise (for me) and I would hope that he can get more reps and show some prowess.

I was high on Ingram but he hasn't really come alive this year.  I'm not sure the weight gain was good for him - he doesn't really display any additional strength, and his speed and shiftiness may have been compromised.  I'm sure he was advised to put on some beef, I just don't know if it was the right move for his potential as a runner.  He seems to have lost a half step.  He really doesn't show a whole lot in terms of vision anyway, the seas need to part in order for him to gain yards.

Perhaps we should come out gunning just to get the Pokes defense to loosen up.  After that, pounding the rock seems our best bet.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 02:19:10 PM »
Ingram has been playing dinged up for most of this season thus far. He got into his own head after the LSU drop because he's still just a true sophomore and isn't experienced with self-doubt yet. I believe he knows better now. Having said that, Ro-Jo might be a QB or not, but he's definitely a football player. He runs like he's personally offended by people trying to tackle him!

Our offense comes to the field ready to do anything on every play. We don't try to "establish" anything other that what's dictated by defensive alignment. If the defense aligns to our receivers, we run. When they become box heavy, we throw.

The difference this season is that our OL can now win even strength (or better) battles. Before, an opposing DL could effectively stymie our running game at the source. When that happens, there's no need to commit extra players. The rest just crowd the passing lanes or rush. This season, our OL not only can win their assigned man, but then they proceed to 2nd and 3rd levels - picking off LBs and DBs. The results are big decisions to be made for opposing DCs.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 02:31:00 PM »
The difference this season is that our OL can now win even strength (or better) battles.

We have indicators that tend to support this.  But this weekend vs. Ok State should be the proof in the pudding.  If our OL is truly at the next level, the Pokes should not be a problem.  Their DL is not bad, but not great, and will be a fair test.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2019, 09:17:09 AM »
Definitely want to see a more productive running game, but it's been tough to risk it with only one (sort of) healthy back all year.  Sure hope we don't end up snakebit there.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 09:21:04 AM »
Several names on LSU's DL keep getting mentioned in draft lists. Watching Sam Cosmi and Parker Braun throw them to the ground was, frankly, refreshing. As a Texas fan, the sight of two pulling OL hunting down defenders on a screen or toss sweep was shocking. I was beginning to think that the OT's job was to sprint straight out of bounds, while the OG jogged over to help the RB get up after being blasted by a DB.

Turns out, they can be integral parts of the "extended run" game!

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 09:48:28 AM »
Yeah, the o-line did a nice job of handling some NFL-type talent for a large percentage of the game.  Would love to see more push in the power run game, but pass protection was very good for most of the night.


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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2019, 10:31:01 AM »
Rice could not stop both phases of the Texas offense. They're not a horrid defense, but they just can't commit the players both ways. They chose to fortify the run stop - which is the right choice. Running is preferable to passing, since passing requires more coordination and higher chance of self inflicted mistakes.

To be consistently dangerous, Texas had to be able to threaten both on a given play. Obviously, this balance easily overwhelmed Rice's ability to counter. Recall last season when an inability to switch focus to passing allowed even outclassed defenses to pack the LOS and bog down the Texas offense.

We learned little about Texas' power, but paradoxically in doing so learned a lot. Too often in years' past, even with Supercoach Tom Herman, Texas simply could not shred athletically inferior opponents. Texas did what it should have done, which is no surprise, but a big reversal of previous outcomes.

Oh, and Cameron Dicker launched a 57 yard FG, which is pretty cool.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 10:39:23 AM »
Yeah I wasn't talking about Rice.  Didn't get a chance to see the game, I was on a Cub Scout campout.

We'll know more this weekend, I believe.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2019, 01:34:59 PM »
We'll know more this weekend, I believe.

I really think we will.  It's just Ok State, but they always mean business.  If we have the OL we hope we have, it will show in this game.

RoJo is likely shaming the other RB's.  Or he should be.  He's not even an RB, yet he's arguably our best back in the last 2 games.  He fights for precious yardage at the end of the play.  That added 2 yards every time he carries is big.  He seems to find daylight where there is none.

Maybe Young and Ingram will turn it up a notch this weekend, but I fear they can't read the field like RoJo.  We'll see.

Same with our DB's.  Was LSU's QB that awesome, or are we that vulnerable.  With LSU, we couldn't go one-dimensional on D at all.  We had to be ready for everything, LB's and even DB's.  With Ok State, they won't be as strong top to bottom, but they'll be strong enough.  I'm hoping we can hone in on them a bit more.

This is likely the most I've looked forward to an Ok State game in awhile.  I really believe we will get a good read on this team.

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Re: Texas - Oklahoma State-- Howdy Mateo Grande
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2019, 08:00:35 PM »
I think that oSu has to try to make the game a shootout and hope that they score last.
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