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Topic: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2025, 03:27:04 PM »
Hay 4ever,

You ever been to Q39 in KC?

1 of my favorite BBQ places
Have not had the pleasure.  KC is not on our frequent flier list these days, since our kids decided to move so damn far away.

Have been to Gates and Sons, Jack Stack, Joes, and Arthur Bryant's.

I want to hit Q39, LC's, and Slap's sometime.  I've watched youtubes of him, pretty impressive looking.  Speaking of youtube, I like a lot of the stuff the Meat Church guy comes up with, too.

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2025, 04:56:26 PM »
Yeah Meat Church looks legit.  

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2025, 05:46:33 PM »
Sounds like,...well...one of the bands I listen to.

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2025, 10:58:52 AM »
Here's a convenient map that someone put together of the current 2025 Texas Monthly Top 50, plus Honorable Mentions.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1HCkAP53eHa6-BcpVB-QfaIXnn6zDWAg&g_ep=CAESBzI1LjIwLjEYACDdYip0OTQyNzUzMTIsOTQyMjMyOTksOTQyMTY0MTMsOTQyMTI0OTYsOTQyMDczOTQsOTQyMDc1MDYsOTQyMDg1MDYsOTQyMTc1MjMsOTQyMTg2NTMsOTQyMjk4MzksNDcwODQzOTMsOTQyMTMyMDAsOTQyNTgzMjVCAlVT&skid=047d04f2-82e7-49ae-9c77-2230d955525b&shorturl=1&ll=32.00430442495891%2C-96.78385774088203&z=7
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1HCkAP53eHa6-BcpVB-QfaIXnn6zDWAg&g_ep=CAESBzI1LjIwLjEYACDdYip0OTQyNzUzMTIsOTQyMjMyOTksOTQyMTY0MTMsOTQyMTI0OTYsOTQyMDczOTQsOTQyMDc1MDYsOTQyMDg1MDYsOTQyMTc1MjMsOTQyMTg2NTMsOTQyMjk4MzksNDcwODQzOTMsOTQyMTMyMDAsOTQyNTgzMjVCAlVT&skid=047d04f2-82e7-49ae-9c77-2230d955525b&shorturl=1&ll=32.00430442495891%2C-96.78385774088203&z=7
That's interesting. Looks like about 80% of the restaurants recognized are from San Antonio eastward. Is that more a function of population distribution or varying popularity of BBQ?
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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2025, 11:06:10 AM »
That's interesting. Looks like about 80% of the restaurants recognized are from San Antonio eastward. Is that more a function of population distribution or varying popularity of BBQ?
Excellent question.  My answer having done zero research, is that it's probably a little bit of both?

But if you did Mexican food/Tex-Mex instead of BBQ, the map would likely reverse, regardless of population distribution.
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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2025, 11:20:12 AM »
Dallas is so hoity-toity that it just seems like a place that wouldn't have good BBQ.  But I've managed to sufficiently avoid the DFW metroplex enough that I haven't partaken of most of the BBQ establishments, and am strictly speaking from perception rather than reality.  

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2025, 11:34:29 AM »
There's a rather good BBQ joint in Luling that I'm surprised isn't on the list.  We used to go eat there a fair bit when I worked out of an office in Seguin, or when family came to visit and wanted to try some BBQ that I hadn't already taken them to in Austin.  

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« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2025, 11:46:34 AM »
There's a rather good BBQ joint in Luling that I'm surprised isn't on the list.  We used to go eat there a fair bit when I worked out of an office in Seguin, or when family came to visit and wanted to try some BBQ that I hadn't already taken them to in Austin. 
City Market in Luling?  It's pretty famous, used to always make the Top 50, but similar to the Big Three in Lockhart, has slid in reputation recently.

The last time I stopped by a few years ago it was pretty disappointing, I have to say. 

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2025, 02:11:55 PM »
I think that's it.  I haven't been since I lived there, so probably 2009.  Wonder why it slipped.  

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2025, 03:06:29 PM »
I think that's it.  I haven't been since I lived there, so probably 2009.  Wonder why it slipped. 
Probably the same reason the other old places did-- original owner sells or dies, new family member or new owner can't maintain.

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2025, 04:26:50 PM »
Restauranting is a tough business.  I've been in this town for 8 years, and it's unbelievable how many places have come and gone in that short time--Including 3 BBQ joints.  Billy Sims is the only survivor at this point.

In this part of the world, finding help that isn't high and will show up for work for the pay the owner can afford, and have even a little bit of pride in it is truly the main problem, I suspect it's the same in a lot of places.

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« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2025, 06:26:05 PM »
Restauranting is a tough business.  I've been in this town for 8 years, and it's unbelievable how many places have come and gone in that short time--Including 3 BBQ joints.  Billy Sims is the only survivor at this point.

In this part of the world, finding help that isn't high and will show up for work for the pay the owner can afford, and have even a little bit of pride in it is truly the main problem, I suspect it's the same in a lot of places.
You forgot the part about finding employees who will "not steal from you."  Which is... not a lot.

We owned a BBQ restaurant throughout my childhood.  And the toughest thing to find, was employees that would not just steal from you.  They figure a restaurant owner can afford to miss a little here and a little there.  Nevermind that restaurant margins are razor thin and always have been.  That little here and little there, turns a positive margin into a negative one.

People moan about the current state of things, but it's really no different than it ever was, at least when it comes to finding good employees.  We had the exact same problems in the 70s and 80s.

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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2025, 09:03:36 PM »
it's a little different, but not enuff to argue about
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Re: Texas Monthly Texas Top 50 BBQ List is out
« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2025, 12:11:03 PM »
You forgot the part about finding employees who will "not steal from you."  Which is... not a lot.

We owned a BBQ restaurant throughout my childhood.  And the toughest thing to find, was employees that would not just steal from you.  They figure a restaurant owner can afford to miss a little here and a little there.  Nevermind that restaurant margins are razor thin and always have been.  That little here and little there, turns a positive margin into a negative one.

People moan about the current state of things, but it's really no different than it ever was, at least when it comes to finding good employees.  We had the exact same problems in the 70s and 80s.
Thieves piss me off.  I hired a secretary that was pretty worthless, that I was not happy with anyway, and she gave me the really good reason to fire her--she had worked 17 hours one week, and we discovered that she had put FORTY-THREE on her time app.  Made that decision quite easy.  Her single-mom sob story also crumbled a bit when she had gastric bypass surgery--which almost freakin' killed her--came to light some time prior.

Anyway, the general public doesn't hear about the thieving issue, but a Papa Murphy's that appeared to be doing pretty brisk business went out 10 years ago due to inability to find help, and the pretty damn good joint here that had fancy pizzas and their own microbrew closed for the same reason.  We've lost a KFC, Long Johns/A&W, a beloved ancient fried chicken joint, the Defiance Brewing place mentioned above, all of the Chinese places, all but Billy Sims for Q.  And this is in an otherwise thriving small-college town.  It's a tough biz no matter--but both arguments are similar--employees suck.

That said, If any of you guys are flush with cash you're getting .00009% interest on, I think a Chick-Fil-A here somewhere close to the interstate would make a killing.
But I just searched, and apparently they require you to have your carcass in the building.  Nevermind.

 

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