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Topic: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU

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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2021, 09:42:21 AM »
ISU and oSu are weird animals right now. ISU in particular. There's no reason for them to have taken the marked step back this season that they have. Their game relies on force rather than finesse, but they still have their QB, RB, and TE that saw them dominate opponents last season. They're not awful, but rather just not quite as in sync as they were.

oSu is obviously missing their weapons. Their QB was always more of a function of his RB and WR than raw personal talent. This season thus far he's trying to force things. Some of his throws are mind bogglingly bad in which he just tosses a pass directly to the defense. The running game just isn't setting them up for success.

Really, the Big 12 right now is OU not able to ply their game due to a running game weak between the tackles, but still winning games. After them comes a Texas team with real promise, but no history. They pass the eye test, but are obviously still getting their sea legs. Behind these two are basically 7 teams that are good but not great. The statistical likelihood is that they'll cannibalize each other depending on who gets the edge that particular Saturday. Them, then KU.

OU and Texas aren't so dominant as to escape the pack. One or both will likely post a bad loss to them at some point.

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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2021, 10:17:25 AM »
Nice summary, I like it, I do wonder if ISU is better than a quick glance might suggest, and they do seem able to upset folks.

Meanwhile, back on topic ...

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« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2021, 11:00:17 AM »
it will all play out obviously, but Iowa state has a recent history of upsetting one of Texas or Oklahoma

Iowa state has a loss to what appears is a solid Iowa team and a loss in Waco on a failed two point conversion to a decent Baylor team

I can't speak for ISU/OU, but Texas is in the midst of its worst decade in about 80 years.  Nobody has needed to be particularly good to beat Texas since 2010.

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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2021, 12:38:42 PM »
I can't speak for ISU/OU, but Texas is in the midst of its worst decade in about 80 years.  Nobody has needed to be particularly good to beat Texas since 2010.
I dont totally agree with that

since 2010 we are 78 and 60 which is averaging 7 wins a year

not what Id like to see but not Kansas quality either
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2021, 12:39:44 PM »
I dont totally agree with that

since 2010 we are 78 and 60 which is averaging 7 wins a year

not what Id like to see but not Kansas quality either
7 wins per year in a 12-14 game season is not at all like 7 wins per year was in 1960.

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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2021, 12:44:56 PM »
7 wins per year in a 12-14 game season is not at all like 7 wins per year was in 1960.
Im not saying UT has had a good 11 year record only that over all we have a winning record and a lot of teams wish they could say that

lets hope we return to helmet quality starting this year
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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2021, 01:16:21 PM »
I like to point out that men with a lot of money paid 8 figures to make the previous staff go away. That's a staff that posted winning seasons.

The eye test tells me that money was spent wisely (if you've got it, and making Texas win football games is a priority). I sort of want to apologize to all the high school All-Americans that passed through Austin the last decade. The staff did not develop them. They left with the same high school talent they arrived with. This current staff develops players between the end of one game Saturday and the start of the next one.

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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2021, 01:25:24 PM »
I like to point out that men with a lot of money paid 8 figures to make the previous staff go away. That's a staff that posted winning seasons.

The eye test tells me that money was spent wisely (if you've got it, and making Texas win football games is a priority). I sort of want to apologize to all the high school All-Americans that passed through Austin the last decade. The staff did not develop them. They left with the same high school talent they arrived with. This current staff develops players between the end of one game Saturday and the start of the next one.
Agree, I'm embarrassed at what UT Football subjected a lot of talented players to, over the past decade.  If I could apologize to them directly, I would.

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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2021, 01:34:56 PM »
Agree, I'm embarrassed at what UT Football subjected a lot of talented players to, over the past decade.  If I could apologize to them directly, I would.
maybe UT should do the hiring of asst coaches direct instead of allowing the HC to do it

or at least be more involved
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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2021, 01:51:16 PM »
Hiring staff is most of what a head coach does. If he can't pull talent to him, then he's the wrong guy.
Charlie Strong was hamstrung by Patterson not wanting to actually pay his assistants. If you can't spend money on Texas Football, why are you the AD?

That was my first hopeful sign with Sark. Flood and Davis have offers to be anywhere they want. Kwiatkowski was entrenched in the northwest and never had to leave if he didn't want, and many have asked in the past. All of these men took lateral (mostly) moves to join Steve Sarkisian at Texas. He chose them, and they agreed.

As fans, we can (and do) yap and carp all we want. These are top notch guys with families and careers that bet them on Sark's success at Texas.

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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2021, 03:06:30 PM »
Hiring staff is most of what a head coach does. If he can't pull talent to him, then he's the wrong guy.
Charlie Strong was hamstrung by Patterson not wanting to actually pay his assistants. If you can't spend money on Texas Football, why are you the AD?

That was my first hopeful sign with Sark. Flood and Davis have offers to be anywhere they want. Kwiatkowski was entrenched in the northwest and never had to leave if he didn't want, and many have asked in the past. All of these men took lateral (mostly) moves to join Steve Sarkisian at Texas. He chose them, and they agreed.

As fans, we can (and do) yap and carp all we want. These are top notch guys with families and careers that bet them on Sark's success at Texas.
Dont agree with the word most.

If UT isnt prepared to do what it takes to be sure its players are properly developed then they are as much at fault as the HC
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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2021, 03:19:27 PM »
Well I'm off to Dallas.  Y'all have a great weekend.

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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2021, 03:42:11 PM »
Hope you have a mostly good time.  Stay safe and

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Re: Red River Shootout 2021 aka TX-OU
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2021, 01:40:29 PM »
Not sure how to read this game. OU has looked somewhat average. UT has looked bad at times and decent at others. So is UT a good team hiding behind the facade of an average team or is OU a average team that hasn’t faced a quality opponent yet?  

I’m going with OU. 35-32. 

 

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