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Topic: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important

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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2019, 02:21:24 PM »
I rue the day we go to the 8-team playoff.

Better go back to bowls-n-polls than that.
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2019, 02:26:48 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on July 30, 2019, 02:21:24 PM
I rue the day we go to the 8-team playoff.

Better go back to bowls-n-polls than that.
Agree with you there.  I'd much rather go back to the old bowl system, old conference alignments, eliminate the 24/7 sports "news" cycle, etc.  It's all become so much more jaded.

Not everyone agrees with me, but I will say that the one REALLY positive thing about conference realignment (the 1996 version) was Texas and OU becoming conference rivals.  For me, it just amped up what was already an extremely passionate rivalry.  Not only did we WANT to beat y'all every year, but we absolutely NEEDED to more often than not, in order to achieve ANY of the team's goals (win the division, win the conference, play in a major bowl, etc.).

And I feel that way despite the fact that, since the formation of the B12, the Sooners have gotten the better of us the majority of the time.  Even so, I still love this game as a conference rivalry.  But I know not all Longhorns and Sooners agree with me on that one.
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2019, 02:36:33 PM »
just one of the reasons the sooners sided with the Horns on alignment of the big 12 and giving up the annual game with the Huskers

the Sooners got the Horns as an annual conference rival, I suppose the Huskers were supposed to continue on with the Buffs, but Ralphie is a COW!
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2019, 03:30:34 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 30, 2019, 02:36:33 PM
just one of the reasons the sooners sided with the Horns on alignment of the big 12 and giving up the annual game with the Huskers

the Sooners got the Horns as an annual conference rival, I suppose the Huskers were supposed to continue on with the Buffs, but Ralphie is a COW!
I don't know this for certain, but I think there were some movers and shakers in Soonerland who were tired of what had become the annual ass-kickings at the hands of the Huskers and just opted for the easy way out.  Maybe they had encountered some members of the famous HPS, I don't know.
In any event, they settled for ass-kickings only half the time--the coward's way out, IMO.
I agree with Utee that the OU-Texas rivalry got amped up even more, but for OU the cost was the annual Nebraska game.
OU should have fought to keep that as an annual game.  We might have lost that fight, but we should have at least made it.
If, after the next round or two of realignment, OU, Texas, and Nebraska all ended up in the same division of the same conference, I would be a happy man.
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2019, 03:59:24 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on July 30, 2019, 03:30:34 PM
I don't know this for certain, but I think there were some movers and shakers in Soonerland who were tired of what had become the annual ass-kickings at the hands of the Huskers and just opted for the easy way out.  Maybe they had encountered some members of the famous HPS, I don't know.
In any event, they settled for ass-kickings only half the time--the coward's way out, IMO.
I agree with Utee that the OU-Texas rivalry got amped up even more, but for OU the cost was the annual Nebraska game.
OU should have fought to keep that as an annual game.  We might have lost that fight, but we should have at least made it.
If, after the next round or two of realignment, OU, Texas, and Nebraska all ended up in the same division of the same conference, I would be a happy man.

What I highlighted in (Sooner) red above-- I've seen you, and Cousin Fred, and others mention it as a possibility before. I can certainly understand the mindset at the time, but if true, man that's so short-sighted and sad.  Ultimately the loss of NU-OU an an annual rivalry game was a fundamental flaw in the B12, an internal crack that would eventually become more severe over time.  That's my opinion anyway.

I certainly would have been in favor of supporting an alignment that allowed that to continue as an annual game, even if it meant some weird/odd combinations of forced x-divisional rivalries for the other teams.

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2019, 04:02:07 PM »
Yep.  Short-sighted, sad, and the fundamental flaw in the Big 12.

All of the above.
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2019, 05:15:22 PM »
Perhaps they thought it would only be for the short term, 10 seasons or so.

Long enough to hire Stoops and build the Sooners back to normal, long enough to put the Huskers in their place politically

it could always have been changed to protected crossovers after 10 seasons of experience to see what teams might matchup the best

of course 10 from 1996 was 2006 and when things started to get warm no concessions were offered either way to hold the conference together
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2019, 05:49:23 PM »
You're giving the 1995 Sooner PTBs a break I don't think they deserve, Fearless.

We were running on about 5 out of 8 cylinders--on the field and off--at that time.
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2019, 08:31:10 PM »
always try to give the benefit of the doubt

I look for the best in folks

even Longhorns
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2019, 08:47:07 PM »
why would anybody be against an 8 team playoff

seems like the best solution to the we was robbed cry
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2019, 09:03:45 PM »
the we was robbed cry

will never go away

it's human nature

March Madness @ more than 64 teams still has that issue

I'm old school, screw the crybabies

If you didn't get in the 4 team playoff it's VERY simple, your team didn't play well enough to earn a spot
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2019, 11:01:19 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 30, 2019, 08:47:07 PM
why would anybody be against an 8 team playoff

seems like the best solution to the we was robbed cry
There are worse things than the "We wuz robbed" cry.
Like a fluke team winning the NC.
The bigger the field, the more likely than an undeserving team wins it.
I don't mind what we have now, but the reason I was against it was because I knew it would immediately lead to demands that it be expanded.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2019, 11:55:53 PM »
I don't even like what we have now, but that's largely due to the subjective nature of ESPN's selection committee.

That's why one thing I DO like about a potential 8-team playoff, would be IF the subjectivity were partially removed by forcing the use of the objective criterion of "P5 champs only, earn the autobids."  Then of course ESPN could still worm in Notre Dame or backdoor a second undeserving SEC team using at-large, but at least for every team in the P5, you know before the season the one guaranteed way to get into the CFP. 

And sure you might get a 9-4 type team as a conference champion, but that's actually a fault of the conference and how it selects its champion, not a fault of the playoff.  If conferences played full roundrobins and no CCG, you'd reduce the chance of a total clunker team making the playoff.
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Re: OU-Texas title game possibility makes RRS slightly less important
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2019, 07:45:38 AM »
I am against an 8 team playoff.  I could be talked into a 6 team version.  I prefer the system we have now because I KNOW that ESPN is the Leader in Sports and has all the experts on staff, other venues are mostly clunkers.

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