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Topic: North Carolina hires Mack Brown

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Cincydawg

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2019, 06:12:00 PM »
UNC should be able to recruit better than most ACC teams, so should Virgina, and it's a fact the fan base is not very fervent there.

That's how I got to 8-9 wins in many years, and yes it means other teams like Wake and Duke would be worse.  

Illinois is a populous state, I presume they play football there even if Chicago is basketball oriented.  I'm mainly looking at recruiting potential, the University OF is usually the flagship in most states and has the largest appeal.

NC has ten million residents and some good HS football.  I think CMB can pull in some of them on name power alone if he's competing with Wake and Duke and NCSU and VaTech and Maryland.  Oh yeah, UMd is in the B1G now, I forgot.  I think Rutger may be as well. 

I can't keep up with these late shifts in conferences.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2019, 02:45:45 PM »
Mack has sell the basketball program to the football recruits
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2019, 12:42:41 AM »
Wow Mack came pretty darn close to upsetting the top ranked Clemson Tigers.  Crazy.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2019, 09:55:57 AM »
nice work Mack!

and I like the choice to go for two
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2019, 09:19:54 PM »
nice work Mack!

and I like the choice to go for two
I don't.  It was demonstrably the wrong call.  Proof is in the pudding.


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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #89 on: September 29, 2019, 09:41:09 PM »
I don't.  It was demonstrably the wrong call.  Proof is in the pudding.

C'mon now.  Hindsight.  20/20.  They coulda made it.

Mack was fortunate to hang with Clemson in 60 minutes.  He knew he had no shot in OT.  He didn't want to give Clemson a fresh "do-over", which is basically what OT is.  And I agree with him.

Logic had already been defied.  No reason to suddenly think you're going to beat the #1 team using logic and being practical.

You hate Mack.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #90 on: September 29, 2019, 10:39:33 PM »
You're confusing me with someone else, I don't hate Mack at all.  I'm pulling for him.

Going for 2 was absolutely the wrong call.  North Carolina whas the momentum at the end of the 4th quarter.  Going into overtime would have been great for the home team and bad news for Clemson.

Proof is in the pudding, going for 2 was the wrong call and it cost them the game.  They might or might not have won in OT.  They didn't give themselves the chance to find out.  Bad decision, wrong call.  

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #91 on: September 29, 2019, 11:13:06 PM »
I think that the argument for going for two and the argument for the particular play that was called might be two separate things.

There are arguments pro and con for attempting a 2-point conversion.

Pro: You win it right there, whereas going into OT would favor the better team, Clemson.

Con: Clemson still would have had 1:14 to drive into FG range and win it.

Pro: You've stopped Clemson most of the night.

Con: Clemson will pull out all the stops to get into position--it's do or die for them.

And so on. . . .

But the call for the QB to outrace the Clemson defense to the corner seems to have been a bad one.

For a multitude of reasons, including a basic affection for Mack Brown, I was hoping for UNC to win.
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #92 on: September 29, 2019, 11:54:46 PM »
Pete Fiutak has an interesting discussion of the game at CFN.

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/09/clemson-21-north-carolina-20-10-quick-thoughts
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #93 on: September 30, 2019, 11:36:25 AM »
Proof is in the pudding, going for 2 was the wrong call and it cost them the game.  They might or might not have won in OT.  They didn't give themselves the chance to find out.  Bad decision, wrong call. 

They had a better chance of converting 2 than beating Clemson in a soccer shoot-out.  That was Mack's judgement.  I agree with him.

There is no "proof" in losing a coin flip.  Pudding or no.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2019, 11:37:27 AM »
Pro: You win it right there, whereas going into OT would favor the better team, Clemson.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2019, 12:02:15 PM »
Going into overtime favors the team with momentum, and the home team.

I'm 100% comfortable with my opinion being better than yours.

And the proof is in the pudding. *shrug*

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2019, 12:03:37 PM »
Pete Fiutak has an interesting discussion of the game at CFN.

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/09/clemson-21-north-carolina-20-10-quick-thoughts
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2019, 01:07:19 PM »
I'm 100% comfortable with my opinion being better than yours.

And also being an easier position to take.  An easy soap box, which is also comfortable.

 

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