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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #966 on: November 26, 2023, 11:20:52 AM »
For me a "great" season needs to encompass Greatness.  Going 12-1, winning a conference championship, and winning a bowl game, I think would constitute a Great season.  But losing a bowl game or CFP game would probably take off some of the luster.

Quote from: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 09:49:59 AM

At 12-1, they stay ahead of Alabama no matter what I think.

Folks have been using the "eye test" against Texas all season, and I get it.  Texas has had some close wins that might make you raise your eyebrows a bit.

So I'd hope that Alabama's near-loss to a bad Auburn team would consequently be held against them, too.

I've heard plenty of people say that Texas beat Alabama early, and that things would be quite different now.  From what I saw from Texas on Friday, and from Alabama on Saturday, i don't believe that even one bit.

Anyway, gotta  beat a game OkState team first.  Like Texas Tech, they have a very good running back.  Unlike Texas Tech, they have some WRs with a pulse.  This won't be an easy game for Texas.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #967 on: November 26, 2023, 11:40:01 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 26, 2023, 11:20:52 AM
For me a "great" season needs to encompass Greatness.  Going 12-1, winning a conference championship, and winning a bowl game, I think would constitute a Great season.  But losing a bowl game or CFP game would probably take off some of the luster.

Folks have been using the "eye test" against Texas all season, and I get it.  Texas has had some close wins that might make you raise your eyebrows a bit.

So I'd hope that Alabama's near-loss to a bad Auburn team would consequently be held against them, too.

I've heard plenty of people say that Texas beat Alabama early, and that things would be quite different now.  From what I saw from Texas on Friday, and from Alabama on Saturday, i don't believe that even one bit.

Anyway, gotta  beat a game OkState team first.  Like Texas Tech, they have a very good running back.  Unlike Texas Tech, they have some WRs with a pulse.  This won't be an easy game for Texas.
In a bowl game outside of the national playoff so many key players opt out that its importance is gone to me

its sad really
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #968 on: November 26, 2023, 12:06:51 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on November 26, 2023, 11:40:01 AM
In a bowl game outside of the national playoff so many key players opt out that its importance is gone to me

its sad really
True enough.  I've never really cared much about bowl games, but in the context of a "great" season with a conference championship and going ALMOST undefeated, I think that losing the final game of the season would probably put a bad taste in my mouth.

Anyway, some very important football to be played before then.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #969 on: November 26, 2023, 12:36:20 PM »
Bowl games are weird, and were weird, once really and obviously exhibition games of a sort, not even counted in final AP polls.  Then they started to have significance, you could win and finish top 10 or lose and finish 18th.  Top ten was better, duh, folks would track it.

Now, as noted, so many sit them out at times is back to being a "preseason game" of sorts.  But "we" watch.

Next year I'd guess anything short of a playoff appearance will be a down year for a lot of programs, more than 12.

We have more undefeated teams SO FAR this season than is typical.  We're usually down to about 3 by now (and could end up there).
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« Reply #970 on: November 26, 2023, 12:41:00 PM »
I'd prefer coaching staffs and teams that value "the game" and treat it as an opportunity

a bowl game is a game - should be valued, but it isn't the same.  I'm old.

I'm hoping if Coach Rhule ever takes a team to a bowl, it will be of value to his staff and his team.

I can only hope.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #971 on: November 26, 2023, 12:45:09 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 12:41:00 PM
I'd prefer coaching staffs and teams that value "the game" and treat it as an opportunity

a bowl game is a game - should be valued, but it isn't the same.  I'm old.

I'm hoping if Coach Rhule ever takes a team to a bowl, it will be of value to his staff and his team.

I can only hope.
Mack Brown won a decent amount of bowl games but didn't give a lick about them.  He always talked about the value of the extra practices.  He used bowl games for team evaluation/development for the following season.

This didn't apply to national championship games, of course.  Those, he took very seriously.
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« Reply #972 on: November 26, 2023, 12:58:24 PM »
Osborne was a believer in the extra practices for the entire squad

but, he was motivated to win every game.  His job usually depended on it.  And he wanted his players make a habit of winning.

He never held out starters or gave them fewer reps leading up to a bowl game.

Tom was 12-13 in bowls, but he tried to win them all
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #973 on: November 26, 2023, 01:05:22 PM »
The Dawgs are 36-21-3 in bowl games, but some of those 21 Ls are to Texas, including their last postseason loss.

Do we count playoff games as bowls?

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #974 on: November 26, 2023, 01:20:08 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 01:05:22 PM
The Dawgs are 36-21-3 in bowl games, but some of those 21 Ls are to Texas, including their last postseason loss.

Do we count playoff games as bowls?


The only REALLY important bowl game between the two teams, is a Georgia win.
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« Reply #975 on: November 26, 2023, 01:23:31 PM »
I count playoff games as bowls
be Cause, if there wasn't a playoff those teams would be playin in a bowl
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #976 on: November 26, 2023, 01:51:49 PM »
Will they be counted as bowl games next year too?

If you finish 5th, you'd get to play 12, and then 4 if you win, and then 2 if you win that, and then 1 ...

That is going to be weird. to me.
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« Reply #977 on: November 26, 2023, 01:54:06 PM »
I'd make a new column and count them as something else.  They're really not the same as bowl games and shouldn't be considered so.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #978 on: November 26, 2023, 02:25:55 PM »
foolishness
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #979 on: November 26, 2023, 02:33:16 PM »
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness
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