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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #112 on: July 26, 2022, 11:30:16 AM »
2014 was almost a decade ago

they haven't been recruiting at that level
Yes, it is, and no, they haven't.
I wonder what happened.
To be clear, I don't like Oregon and I don't like Phil Knight. They reflect a lot of what I don't like about CFB these days.
And their loss in the 2014 (season) national championship game wasn't a close one.  42-24, IIRC.
But I think they've got as much of a chance as some other teams who have been named upthread.
Like Tennessee, for example, which has had 10 losing seasons in the last 20 years.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #113 on: July 26, 2022, 11:32:08 AM »
I wouldnt include Texas until they do something to earn it
It takes a bold and clear-eyed man to say that about his own program, a top-10 all-time blueblood, 320.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #114 on: July 26, 2022, 11:35:48 AM »
I look at established traditional programs able to recruit at a high level as programs with a >5% shot.  Maybe it's >2%, dunno, I'd say under 2% is Vandy.

I'd consider Auburn for example.  There are enough programs on the fringe of this to comprise a "field" that could win it.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #115 on: July 26, 2022, 12:22:25 PM »
I look at established traditional programs able to recruit at a high level as programs with a >5% shot.  Maybe it's >2%, dunno, I'd say under 2% is Vandy.

I'd consider Auburn for example.  There are enough programs on the fringe of this to comprise a "field" that could win it.
well we at Texas are spending just as fast as we can to make that happen
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #116 on: July 26, 2022, 12:29:58 PM »
I wouldnt include Texas until they do something to earn it
Nor would I, I just did it for grins. I'd need to see a pretty massive step-function improvement in player development and gameday coaching, before I'd ever even begin to believe that the Horns might have a shot.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #117 on: July 26, 2022, 12:58:35 PM »
I think one way or the other, Texas will get back to being very good within a decade.  If the current coach doesn't do it, the next one has a shot if recruiting stays the same.

If their best season is say 8-5, their recruiting will likely start to ebb.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #118 on: July 26, 2022, 01:06:02 PM »
well we at Texas are spending just as fast as we can to make that happen
National Analysts Rip Jimbo Fisher, Aggies Recruiting


The Aggies struggles on the recruiting trails are not a surprise, per national pundits

The Texas A&M Aggies have struggled on the recruiting trail in the 2023 cycle, sitting with six total commitments, including a punter.

And while the talent they do have committed is solid, the momentum is nowhere near the same for Jimbo Fisher as it was in the 2022 class, when the Aggies finished with arguably the greatest recruiting class of all time.

In fact, after finishing with the nation's unanimous No. 1 class, the Aggies currently sit with the No. 35 class per On3, the No. 52 class by Rivals, and sit at No. 58 class per 247Sports.

They are unranked by ESPN.

And now national analysts are beginning to take notice, with Fox Sports' Brady Quinn, ripping the Aggies for their haul thus far.

"It’s a direct correlation to the microscope has been put on us," Quinn said on an episode of the Outkick The Coverage podcast." We can’t do what we did last year and our recruits look a little different right now. I haven’t seen that dramatic of a swing in recruiting ever. When Nick Saban comes out and basically says, ‘Yeah, dude, you bought that class.’ This justifies it."

However, Quinn wasn't the only analyst to rip the Aggies, with former Penn State star linebacker LaVar Arrington giving Alabama's Nick Saban the credit for the Aggies struggles.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #119 on: July 26, 2022, 01:10:09 PM »
If you consider that, in order to win it, you have to be invited to the playoff, then the formula for Texas is to go undefeated in the Big 12 and try not to get destroyed by Bama on Sept 10.

The Big 12 made themselves look competitive last year. This year, it could be anything. The players that made oSu and ISU competent are gone. Likewise, Baylor is going to have to do something besides waste time and hold opponents to less than 20 points. These programs don't typically have an All-American waiting to be discovered.

In short, a moderately competent football program has a decent shot at winning the Big 12 - possibly undefeated before the CCG (why?). I'd argue that it wouldn't be hard to find 5 (or 8) other programs better than the Big 12 champ, but the fact remains that, by that point, a Texas or OU team with those credentials stands a chance of being promoted.


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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #120 on: July 26, 2022, 01:14:14 PM »
National Analysts Rip Jimbo Fisher, Aggies Recruiting


The Aggies struggles on the recruiting trails are not a surprise, per national pundits

The Texas A&M Aggies have struggled on the recruiting trail in the 2023 cycle, sitting with six total commitments, including a punter.

And while the talent they do have committed is solid, the momentum is nowhere near the same for Jimbo Fisher as it was in the 2022 class, when the Aggies finished with arguably the greatest recruiting class of all time.

In fact, after finishing with the nation's unanimous No. 1 class, the Aggies currently sit with the No. 35 class per On3, the No. 52 class by Rivals, and sit at No. 58 class per 247Sports.

They are unranked by ESPN.

And now national analysts are beginning to take notice, with Fox Sports' Brady Quinn, ripping the Aggies for their haul thus far.

"It’s a direct correlation to the microscope has been put on us," Quinn said on an episode of the Outkick The Coverage podcast." We can’t do what we did last year and our recruits look a little different right now. I haven’t seen that dramatic of a swing in recruiting ever. When Nick Saban comes out and basically says, ‘Yeah, dude, you bought that class.’ This justifies it."

However, Quinn wasn't the only analyst to rip the Aggies, with former Penn State star linebacker LaVar Arrington giving Alabama's Nick Saban the credit for the Aggies struggles.


I implore you to read the TexAgs recruiting forum. They'll tell you exactly how (a) there's no reason to worry because Jimbo is an elite recruiter and has a ton of guys on standby to close strong (b) the Pool Party (tm) is coming at the end of July and errbody will commit then and there and (c) Texas is a bunch of cheating cheatersons who, according to this guy I work with who's "pretty high up in the NCAA", are being investigated and will be given the Death Penalty quickly.

Seriously, the whole thing's a conspiracy! They can prove it!

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #121 on: July 26, 2022, 01:17:44 PM »
Implore as you will, I'm not going there

I'll take your word for it, as I do most things you post
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #122 on: July 26, 2022, 01:24:23 PM »
Reading TexAgs will rot your brain.  It is to be avoided at all costs.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2022, 01:27:51 PM »
A 12-1 P5 conference champ will generally make the playoffs.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #124 on: July 26, 2022, 01:55:11 PM »
generally, but we're talkin bout the Big12 here
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #125 on: July 26, 2022, 02:12:13 PM »
generally, but we're talkin bout the Big12 here
A 12-1 conference champ Texas or OU is pretty much a CFP lock.

Other B12 schools?  Maybe not.

 

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